FIFA World Cup 2022

Winner?

  • Brazil

    Votes: 8 20.0%
  • Germany

    Votes: 2 5.0%
  • France

    Votes: 10 25.0%
  • Spain

    Votes: 2 5.0%
  • Argentina

    Votes: 7 17.5%
  • England

    Votes: 5 12.5%
  • Netherlands

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 6 15.0%

  • Total voters
    40
  • Poll closed .

optic yellow

Hall of Fame
We made them look bad. Polished from England.
England are going to win this one, I just feel it deeply in my soul. There is no more appropriate champion for this edition of the World Cup. It is similar to how both the LA Lakers and the LA Dodgers won their only recent championships in shortened COVID bubble years.
 

3loudboys

G.O.A.T.
England are going to win this one, I just feel it deeply in my soul. There is no more appropriate champion for this edition of the World Cup. It is similar to how both the LA Lakers and the LA Dodgers won their only recent championships in shortened COVID bubble years.
6-2 is a joke - delighted this side of the pond but there will be tougher challenges than today. Should give the manager and players a big confidence boost ahead of the next.

Scary thing could of been 8 or 9.
 

optic yellow

Hall of Fame
6-2 is a joke - delighted this side of the pond but there will be tougher challenges than today. Should give the manager and players a big confidence boost ahead of the next.

Scary thing could of been 8 or 9.
I mean I think the lads all love playing for Harry Kane.
 

Feña14

Legend
England's first and third goals are very nicely worked. In general play they're quite slow and pedestrian but they're carving Iran open when they up the intensity in the final third.

Following on from Asian champions Qatar yesterday, Iran, the team with the best qualifying record in Asia, look absolutely hopeless. The next AFC lambs for the slaughter is Australia, whose team is half made up of mid-table Scottish Premiership jobbers, and the ever-useless Saudi Arabia. I'd be betting on them losing 10+ goals between them against France and Argentina. Asia's reward for this continual footballing excellence? 8 automatic spots in 2026, double their current number, while the likes of Italy and Colombia miss out.
Agree about England being slow and timid usually, today seemed very different though. There was bravery, kept the ball well, had runners off from Kane, weren’t afraid to show a bit of creativity. By England standards? That was a top notch performance.

It’s the formation and the personnel I wanted to see leading into the tournament, although I did have Foden over Saka, but you can’t really go wrong with either.

It was the midfield that impressed me most. Bellingham and Mount as number 8’s was a great move, they’re intelligent players who can create, score, win the ball back quickly and have that un-English knack of being able to find space and receive the ball in any situation. It’s no KDB and Silva at Man City, but it’s nice to see us giving it a go.

I think good teams will have a field day with the defence, but England should be able to cause problems of their own. They won’t come close to winning it, but it looks like they’ll be going about trying to in a positive way. Can’t be too mad about that.
 

Gizo

Hall of Fame
I still think that the best England can do is to reach the quarter-finals and lose to Argentina (if we finish 2nd in the group) or France (if we win it). But then again in France's case there's a tendency for defending champions to play poorly in the next World Cup (with 4 of the last 5 defending champions losing in the group stage and Brazil in 2006 looking pretty underwhelming).

Before then, I don't think we can underestimate the USA or Wales in our group.

USA, while I didn't think they were particularly amazing during CONCACAF qualifying, failing to beat Canada and suffering their 10th consecutive defeat away to Costa Rica in a qualification match, can be very dangerous and have an impressive midfield. I've thought that both England and USA could be held back by their managers as I don't rate Gregg Berhalter but I do rate many of the players and young players at his disposal. And in a battle of Britain against Wales, anything could happen (England were terrible against Scotland at the Euros last year).
 

optic yellow

Hall of Fame
Agree about England being slow and timid usually, today seemed very different though. There was bravery, kept the ball well, had runners off from Kane, weren’t afraid to show a bit of creativity. By England standards? That was a top notch performance.

It’s the formation and the personnel I wanted to see leading into the tournament, although I did have Foden over Saka, but you can’t really go wrong with either.

It was the midfield that impressed me most. Bellingham and Mount as number 8’s was a great move, they’re intelligent players who can create, score, win the ball back quickly and have that un-English knack of being able to find space and receive the ball in any situation. It’s no KDB and Silva at Man City, but it’s nice to see us giving it a go.

I think good teams will have a field day with the defence, but England should be able to cause problems of their own. They won’t come close to winning it, but it looks like they’ll be going about trying to in a positive way. Can’t be too mad about that.
Do they not have a good defensive midfielder?
 

Hamnavoe

Hall of Fame
Agree about England being slow and timid usually, today seemed very different though. There was bravery, kept the ball well, had runners off from Kane, weren’t afraid to show a bit of creativity. By England standards? That was a top notch performance.

It’s the formation and the personnel I wanted to see leading into the tournament, although I did have Foden over Saka, but you can’t really go wrong with either.

It was the midfield that impressed me most. Bellingham and Mount as number 8’s was a great move, they’re intelligent players who can create, score, win the ball back quickly and have that un-English knack of being able to find space and receive the ball in any situation. It’s no KDB and Silva at Man City, but it’s nice to see us giving it a go.

I think good teams will have a field day with the defence, but England should be able to cause problems of their own. They won’t come close to winning it, but it looks like they’ll be going about trying to in a positive way. Can’t be too mad about that.
Until the goal it was slow stuff, but it did pick up when Iran had to come out and try and play a bit more. It was an England performance more akin to the last World Cup, when they were a bit more aggressive and fun generally, but I think that's just a product of playing weaker opposition. If Iran had to play in Euro qualifiers they would be a pot 4/5 team on the evidence of today - I don't think any more can be read into this game than England beating Albania 5-0 in qualifying, for instance.
 

Feña14

Legend
Do they not have a good defensive midfielder?
Declan Rice. Some people think he’s one of the best around, others don’t rate him at all :laughing:

I quite like him, personally. Reminds me of a poor man’s Rodri. Stylistically anyway, he doesn’t have the same quality as Rodri, but I’m not sure many do.

Rice holding with 2 number 8’s looked really nice today. Anything that gives Bellingham more freedom is good by me, he’s wasted in a holding pair imo.
 

MurraysMetalHip

Hall of Fame

Well, that virtue signal is over rather quickly.

Good teams always look unbeatable playing against mediocre teams.
Absolutely. Iranian players and fans protest against the regime despite the legitimate risk of death. Yet England footballers cave in under threat of a yellow card. Disgusting and pathetic.
 
Absolutely. Iranian players and fans protest against the regime despite the legitimate risk of death. Yet England footballers cave in under threat of a yellow card. Disgusting and pathetic.
So it tells you how important showing those arm bands really are to the ones that wear them and the flags when there are no consequences for wearing them. So remember this the next time people start kneeling before games.
 
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Hamnavoe

Hall of Fame
Yanks looking really good, some lovely crisp passing. It'll need to be a classic Wales smash and grab job with some Bale magic if they're to get something.
 

Hamnavoe

Hall of Fame
USA great fun to watch, so sharp and dynamic. Wales need to put the big huddy Moore on so they can make it stick up front, barely made it out of their own half so far.
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Looks like I've already made a grave mistake. I thought Timber was guarantee starter all games. Come on, he rejected United for this. I didn't see the game. Anybody knows if he is injured, or have I been misinformed once more? I'm glad Saint Jude got me some points. :cool:

Hamnavoe with the early lead.
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Rob Page is going to show why he hosts our tournaments. Making the changes at half-time. None of the waiting until 65 minute nonsense.
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Just for that playa, Harry Kane will drop another 3/10 performance with no shots on target in the final this year
I'm a Brazil man this year. :p

The funniest stat I read was when Saka scored his second, then a picture of Wayne Rooney came up. Saka has already scored more world cup goals than Rooney. All it took was one game. :giggle:
 

1HBHfanatic

Legend
-yup, second half, USA was flat
-they defended too much, and payed for it
-first half i was a bit surpriced for the USA soccer
-2nd half, USA was flat, midfield and forwards were tired, and almost lost it!
 

Hamnavoe

Hall of Fame
Classic Wales. They're not good, but they've got bluster, make the most of breaks that come and can dig out results. Wales Bale is the only player in the world who can be absolutely rank all game and then randomly get sliced down in the box with little threat of a goal in his first attacking involvement. I expect they'll find a way to do just that little bit more than the US to sneak into the knockouts. I'm expecting a horsing similar to the one Denmark gave them at the Euros if they do get through though.
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Classic Wales. They're not good, but they've got bluster, make the most of breaks that come and can dig out results. Wales Bale is the only player in the world who can be absolutely rank all game and then randomly get sliced down in the box with little threat of a goal in his first attacking involvement. I expect they'll find a way to do just that little bit more than the US to sneak into the knockouts. I'm expecting a horsing similar to the one Denmark gave them at the Euros if they do get through though.
Wales is the living version of ''getting football managered.'' Only on football manager, it does take the p a little more when you have 6 xg vs 0xg, but it's still 0-0 when they get their sneaky corner in the 90th minute. And we know what happens next.
 
What does the data say regarding which sport is gaining the most from any post-CTE exodus of [American] football? The first wave of kids would now be teenagers, if American soccer didn't suffer from the same 'pay to play' system that has killed American tennis they would be a legit WC threat by the 2030s. (they still might be just on, population + wealth, alone)

Imagine how insufferable the American soccer hipsters would be then... (n)
 

RS

Talk Tennis Guru
Tuned in to the second half in the end. Decent.

Refs adding a lot of added time this World Cup and generally. They never used to do this as much.
 

Hamnavoe

Hall of Fame
The US were impressive technically but there is a physical gulf between them and the European teams. My club signed a player last January called from Orlando City called Chris Mueller, who had impressed enough in MLS to be capped by the national team twice. However, after coming over he said that in the MLS they didn't do any gym work, which seems bizarre. It showed, too - he had some nice touches and looked a decent footballer but couldn't cope with the physicality and pace in Scotland and was back in the US by the summer.

Wales got back into the game when they added the physical threat of Moore. The US for all their tidy play need more pace and power to transition into being a top team.
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
''Petition for Dion Dublin to host a Qatari special of Homes Under The Hammer, where he analyses the resale value of the 2022 World Cup accommodation.''
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Well, day 1 is over and time to check the fantasy league table. Of course, I'd always love more members playing .but it's kind of poetic to have the same four participants as last year. And with that Rob Page title. It will be fun. Some scary looking teams. :happydevil:
 

Gizo

Hall of Fame
I hope Mexico can reach the knockout stages at an 8th consecutive World Cup, and grab a crucial win vs. Poland today, but I’m not overly optimistic there.
There was also talk of a crisis pre-2014 and then they performed very well there, but they had a much stronger squad back then. This time they’ll sorely miss Corona, Jimenez is barely match fit, and they’ll heavily rely on Lozano who is doing very at Napoli.

This is the worst Mexico team that I’ve seen bar none. They were absolutely hopeless in qualifying (but greatly benefited from playing in a weak confederation) and likewise in their recent friendlies against good quality opponents (Uruguay tore them to shreds). I thought that with their insular attitude, and the lack of Mexican players getting regular minutes at clubs in strong European leagues, that they were at risk of getting left behind by their arch rivals the USA.
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
Tennis meets Football.

Diego Schwartzman from Argentina shown in the moments after the final whistle in the crowd, absolutely stunned his country lost.

 
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