Finally......A Prince Ignite Review

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My Prince Ignite showed up in the mail Monday and I now have five hours of hitting in with it, so it is time for some opinions:

I usually use the K90 or my N6.1 95s. I recently have been hitting a friend's Kprostaff, I think it is wonderful for hitting ground strokes and volleys, but I found hitting my heavy TopSpin serve to be impossible. I pretty much had to hit hard flat ones or put in sitters. Thus the K90 is my usual raquet, because it has great control and really lets me rip both monster top spin and flat serves. So when the new prince ignite frame came out, I wanted to give it a try, I just broke down and ordered one strung with a full bet of PHT at 60 lbs. Here is my review:

Cosmetics: Although it is only supposed to be a 22mm beam, I think it looks larger than that due to it being a boxed beam. The thing looks really mammoth where the throat connects to the pallet. The paint job is really nice and looks very sharp. It is a very unusual racquet, because to just pick it up you think it would be unstable and hollow, but when you hit with it, it may be muted, but it is pretty dang stable given how light and easily it swings.

Ground Strokes: I was rather impressed, the open pattern let me take some huge topspin cuts and the work I was putting on the ball was rather impressive. I could also flatten them out and they would scream off the racquet like bullets. I feel like the KPS and K90 hit heavier balls, i.e. I am getting more RPMs on my shot, but I found the pace and control I had over this racquet to be insanse on my forehands. I have not found quite how to hit decent one handed backhands with it, as I am used to a flat stable swing with the Wilsons. I think I could get away with more topspin and hitting a harder ball on my backhand than with the Wilsons....but that would take some time and quite a few hoppers of balls. Slice was decent, but I found the K90 and the Prince EXO graphite 93 to be better, the pure storm limited is probably the best ever in terms of ones I have hit-(if only that one came in an open string patter-sigh). I think what held the prince back a little is the thick beam and I would probably need to spend some more time with it to get them to bite hard. In sum, the racquet is very stable and you can hit some shots that have great angles, good pace, and great spin. I found it overall to be a wonderful jack of all trades on the grounstrokes as whatever I requested it did very well.

Serves- I can really knock the cover off the ball with this racquet, I can generate tons of pace and spin. In fact I think the quality of my serve probably rivals my K90. I would love to get a radar gun and see which one hits a harder ball. I would guess my K90, but it should be close. The open string pattern and head light balance make this an exceptional raquet to serve with.

Volleys and overheads- I found my reflex volleys were pretty good, and I could easily punch most volleys deep. I love the wilsons, because I am not terribly affraid of soemone trying to take my head off in doubles. I would be a little bit more concerned with the prince, as I could see a crushed forehand twisting this one out of my hands. That is specualtion, I need to play some competatitve doubles and see what happens. Overall volleys were good, but I am just a little more used to a heavier racquet, so I was not quite in the groove with it yet.

Return of Serve- I struggled here as I found I was constantly out in front of the ball when reacting due to the weight of my usual frames. But what I found is if I hold off and take a nice large cut, I could really lace hits down the lines. I found while playing singles I could really start the points out by being on the offensive and I was rather impressed by that. I need to hit with my usual partner, who can hit them in the 100+ range to get a feel for how it handles chipping and blocking serves back. But against the majority of the tennis world, if you have the right timing you can hit some surprisingly nice return of serves.

Overall I think it is a really nice racquet. It reminds me alot of my N 6.1 95. I think the ignite gives me a little bit more zip and control on ground strokes and serves. But my Wilsons volley a little better. I think anyone who likes the Wilson 6.1 95 line of frames should give this one a shot and I think you will enjoy it. Overall I found it a little easier to control. It has a more muted string bed, but the sweet spot is enormous, in fact I may have shanked one ball on a high reaching volley, but that was about it. It also makes a wonderfully aggressive "thwack" sound everytime you hit it. which really pumps up the ego.

I need to hit with it way more to decide if this is something I want to switch to, but so long as I don't develop any forearm pain, I may just do it.
 
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I hit with this very briefly recently and first impressions were quite positive....very comfortable, felt like it had a big sweetspot...I was expecting it to feel heavy due to beamwidth and weight but it swung nicely, almost light...it had lower power than I expected however (disclaimer, I had played a couple of sets in the heat and hit this afterward so I may have been a bit worn out). I just hit groundies and some volleys, no serves...conclusion: nice enough to make we want to take it out for a longer demo soon.
 
I would, the precision and pace on ground strokes is very nice, plus volleys and overheads are easy to hit... In fact overheads come screaming off the frame. I an still working on my lob, but after another two hours of hitting I found my groove with it and I am almost to the point where I don't want to hit with anything else. I was really floored with how well I could place the ball and then let a huge forehand rip at the right times. Overall I have been highly impressed with it. I thought my slice continued to be a touch sub par, but I was hiting such great depth and pace with my one handed backhand last night after making the suggestions I discussed ^^^^, that I really had no desire to slice. I have to say that this has easily been the best frame I have demo'd this year. I really suggest giving it a try if you like players frames, it has a nice weight and is very forgiving.
 
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I would, the precision and pace on ground strokes is very nice, plus volleys and overheads are easy to hit... In fact overheads come screaming off the frame. I an still working on my lob, but after another two hours of hitting I found my groove with it and I am almost to the point where I don't want to hit with anything else. I was really floored with how well I could place the ball and then let a huge forehand rip at the right times. Overall I have been highly impressed with it. I thought my slice continued to be a touch sub par, but I was hiting such great depth and pace with my one handed backhand last night after making the suggestions I discussed ^^^^, that I really had no desire to slice. I have to say that this has easily been the best frame I have demo'd this year. I really suggest giving it a try if you like players frames, it has a nice weight and is very forgiving.

ok ill try it out
hey how does it compare to the k95
they seem the same
 
I hate the k95. I think it has way too much pop and find it difficult to control. I think directional control is far superior with the ignite. I never had a good feel for the k95 though as it was always a struggle to keep the ball in the court. The ignite was light years better in that department. It really does a great job of doing what you tell it to do.
 
dudes...i really really liked this racquet. I was hitting some of my best tennis today with this racquet....

It had just the right amount of pop/power for my shots... the thing is...I have a very sensitive arm.. seems like anything over 62 or so RA in stiffness will definiteyl give me tennis elbow.

What do you guys think? 69RA doesn't really equate to a comfortable frame to hit with........
 
dudes...i really really liked this racquet. I was hitting some of my best tennis today with this racquet....

It had just the right amount of pop/power for my shots... the thing is...I have a very sensitive arm.. seems like anything over 62 or so RA in stiffness will definiteyl give me tennis elbow.

What do you guys think? 69RA doesn't really equate to a comfortable frame to hit with........

but did u have any arm problems while u were hitting?? cuz in my experience, all the speedports are quite arm friendly, regardless of the stiffness..
 
but did u have any arm problems while u were hitting?? cuz in my experience, all the speedports are quite arm friendly, regardless of the stiffness..

I'm not so sure about the speedport black or white....they were pretty dang stiff.

I'm wondering if maybe the EXO3 speedports do much better at absorbing the vibration so that you don't get arm problems.

are you one that has a sensitive arm also? arm/elbow/etc..


I didn't have problems while I was hitting...I normally don't RIGHT away...and i didn't play too long today
 
I have about 16 or so hours of hitting and league play in with it, and must say I am still enjoying it. I broke one set of strings. Before they broke the tension was pretty far down there and I felt like my volleys were really sailing a little bit more than when the strings were fresh, I also found the groundies tended to fly a little, but nothing major. This just makes me think this racquet performs a little better at slightly higher tensions.

I am prone a fair amount of forearm pain if I hit with racquets that are sub 12 ozs. So far I have had no arm pain whatsoever. Keep in mind I have been hitting with a full bed of 16g poly at 60lbs! If I were going to develop it, I know I would have had it by now. So I would definately consider this one to be arm-safe.

I think my slice has improved with it and I am really chipping some nice serve returns with my backhand. Overall the directional control of this racquet has just been phenomenal. I noticed that my serving has improved quite a bit with this racquet and you can hit some monster topspin serves thanks to the ports. Overall I must say this racquet is a real gem, I am surprised at how this one seems to have been overlooked. If you like 95 inche players frames with open sting patterns I think this one is a must demo!
 
I'm not so sure about the speedport black or white....they were pretty dang stiff.

I'm wondering if maybe the EXO3 speedports do much better at absorbing the vibration so that you don't get arm problems.

are you one that has a sensitive arm also? arm/elbow/etc..


I didn't have problems while I was hitting...I normally don't RIGHT away...and i didn't play too long today

i cant say about white...but i thought black was relatively arm friendly for its stiffness...i have speedport tour..and it's very arm friendly...as well as tried exo graphite, 03 tour...and found them pretty arm friendly

my arm doesnt like stiff rackets like pure drive...so i guess that means sensitive arm?? but then again, i have no problem with k90 (my stick of choice)...so i guess maybe not the person to comment LOL...
 
I'm really eager to try out the Ignite 95, but I don't wanna drop $200 to do so, and demoing one isn't practical at the moment with my varied schedule. It'd suck to go to the trouble of getting the demo and then only get to use it once.

What I did just get is a closeout O3 Hybrid Tour 95 ($69) with an open pattern. Looking at the specs, it looks pretty similar to the Ignite, except that the Ignite is more head-light. So far, this Hyrbid is a nice racquet, but I do wish it was a bit more headlight. That's why I think I'll like the Ignite. Still, it's the most solid-feeling of the four racquets I currently have -- O3 White (100), Ozone 7 (105), and an old Thundercloud Titanium (110 -- ick). My next favorite is the Ozone... head light, light overall, but right now it has crap strings in it (Lightening XX 16), so I'm waiting on my new strings to arrive so I can restring it and truly compare.

Hopefully the Ignite will go on "special" over the winter and I can grab one then...

Rob
 
Donbot, would you say that this is a midplus kprostaff 88? I'm looking at the specs and it looks just that
 
Donbot, would you say that this is a midplus kprostaff 88? I'm looking at the specs and it looks just that

Wow that is a tough one. I think it lacks the stability and sheer crushing power of the kprostaff. I find it swings alot easier and it is easier to hit one handed backhands with some adjustment. I think the k pro staff with the right strings is better in the volley department. I think the ignite is far more forgiving, there it has a very large sweetspot, plus I don't find the upper part of the hoop to ne utterly dead like in the kprostaff. I think directional control and depth are easier to manage with the ignite. I think both frames hit a very heavy ball. The big reason I will never use the k prostaff is my serves suck with it. I can really get some nice bat speed with the ignite, and the k prostaff to me would be a complete hindrance on serve in competitve play.





As for my level of play.....if I actually look at the criteria for the usta rankings I would self rate as a 3.5 lol, but honestly most people who hit with me say 4.5. I don't argue it one way or the other. I can whallop forehands and serves but my one handed backhand is defensive and a real liability against the 5.0+s I have hit against, so I would certainly not put myself up there.
 
As for my level of play.....if I actually look at the criteria for the usta rankings I would self rate as a 3.5 lol, but honestly most people who hit with me say 4.5. I don't argue it one way or the other. I can whallop forehands and serves but my one handed backhand is defensive and a real liability against the 5.0+s I have hit against, so I would certainly not put myself up there.

Cool, thanks for the heads up, and your sig is hilarious!
 
hyogen, I just hit with the ignite and I really think that the speedports work on making it more arm friendly. It did not bother my arm at all and mine is very sensitive.

Of course, it had a multi in it. I would stay away from polys with this frame. I would stay away from poly's with any frame actually.
 
hyogen, I just hit with the ignite and I really think that the speedports work on making it more arm friendly. It did not bother my arm at all and mine is very sensitive.

Of course, it had a multi in it. I would stay away from polys with this frame. I would stay away from poly's with any frame actually.

thanks! can you describe how sensitive your arm is? mine seems to get tennis elbow for sure if the stiffness of the racquet is any more stiff than for example, the microgel prestiges (63ra). some of the yonexes that are 64 can start to be troublesome.. pure drive = my arm killer. I usually stick with the more mushy frames like rqis1 tour, radicals, etc.

the funny thing is, when I tried out the Ignite 95, it was strung with poly in the mains, and synthetic gut in the crosses. Felt really good..i'm gonna have to try it out again. it was strung at 58lbs...was perfect! :X
 
Well, mine is very sensitive. The k90 ate me up even wioth soft low tension multi. Sweetspot probably too small for me. I will feel poly's in al most any frame within30 minutes.

My yonex's are still comfy (64 flex) but I use multifeel at 55/52 which is on the low end and even lower. My prestige pro's) never really bothered me at all but again, I strung them on the low end with multi. I would not touch a frame with 69 stiffness to be honest but, I do really think that string selection is more important and I also believe that the ports on the ignite really do help. No doubt in my mind. I would probably put a bit of lead on it myself...but maybe not..I would have to play with it more.
 
Well, mine is very sensitive. The k90 ate me up even wioth soft low tension multi. Sweetspot probably too small for me. I will feel poly's in al most any frame within30 minutes.

My yonex's are still comfy (64 flex) but I use multifeel at 55/52 which is on the low end and even lower. My prestige pro's) never really bothered me at all but again, I strung them on the low end with multi. I would not touch a frame with 69 stiffness to be honest but, I do really think that string selection is more important and I also believe that the ports on the ignite really do help. No doubt in my mind. I would probably put a bit of lead on it myself...but maybe not..I would have to play with it more.

just what i wanted to hear :) i'm gonna have to seriously think about switching to this frame.
 
any other racquets that this racquet feels similar to?

i've been reading that it's similar to 6.1 95. but that's an arm killer for me.
 
picking my ignite 95 today!

can't believe i'm buying this when it has such a high stiffness rating ! :o
 
This seems to be a quite nice serving racquet.
Great pop and the usual prince spin for the kickers.
Groundies are ok and especially hitting FH's with it was quite good.
A drawback was that BH emergency shots felt a little clumsy and slices float from time to time.
Still, if I have to use it full time, it wouldn't cause too much of trouble.
Maybe, a little too much pop for me, but considering its benefit for the serves, it might be worthwhile.
 
alas, i got the racquet and i was pretty tired yesterday...but was not hitting well. felt too heavy for me. It was strung with Redcode in mains, prince synth gut in crosses - at 58lbs...

i was quite sad. when i had first tried it out i was hitting very consistently and deep with a lot of control on both wings. alas...
 
alas, i got the racquet and i was pretty tired yesterday...but was not hitting well. felt too heavy for me. It was strung with Redcode in mains, prince synth gut in crosses - at 58lbs...

i was quite sad. when i had first tried it out i was hitting very consistently and deep with a lot of control on both wings. alas...

i'm gonna give it another shot today. i think i'll have more energy. the racquet indeed is comfortable. Didn't have any arm issues whatsoever which is crazy to me considering it is 69 ra.

if not, i'm gonna trade it for either youtek speed 16x19 or maybe even the Rebel 95 which i liked a lot...
 
I would stick with it for a little while. You don't want one bad day of hitting to turn you off to the ignite. Plus like you said it is ridiculously arm friendli for the weight and stiffness even with a full bed of poly....btw I would adjust your string too try a full bed of poly at like 61 or 62..... It is rather amazing.
 
Figured I'd post my thoughts on this frame.

I've been playing with the EXO3 Graphite 100 for the last few months. I love it in all respects, except volleying, late hits where I don't have much time to prepare, and shots on the run. Someone at my club had the Ignite a couple weeks ago, so I gave it a go. I was intrigued enough to buy one and set it up to my specs for a real demo, which I did.

So far, I'm rather impressed with how this frame responds in all categories.

- Some of you mentioned how good a serving frame this is.. I am in total agreement. I get the same excellent spin I get from the Graphite 100, but with the Ignite I am getting some added controlled pop. Not a bad thing.

- Volleys are the biggest difference I am feeling like this frame might be better suited for me. Feels better overall on off-center hits. I was worried the 22mm beam would feel too stiff for touch volleys, but the frame does feel like it has some nice flex.

- Ground strokes on the run.. Oh yes. Big upgrade here. I'm not doing anything really different that I can notice, but seem to be getting much better controlled shots when I'm pulled off the court, both with topspin and slice shots.

I'm not ready to give up the Graphite 100, but this is going rather well. Fully realizing I'm in a honeymoon period here.. :) but so far so good.
 
I have been hitting mine almost daily for the last month and I still am very impressed by it.....in fact I really improved my slice since some of my earlier posts. I am still experimenting with strings, but I think it plays better at the higher tensions. I love a fresh bed of pht in it but it drops tension and playability soo sooooo quickly...hmmmm.......I may give some of the new babolat strings a try when they come out.
 
Bump- I guess this thread may be of some interest again based on some of the discussion in the prince playtest thread.
 
I just noticed that the Ignite has very similar specs to my Wilson BLX95 18x20:

Ignite: 345g 11HL 341sw 69stiff 22mm

BLX95: 346g 8HL 338sw 67stiff 22mm

Anyone tried both?
 
I play with the ignite and demoed the blx 95 18x20. I found I was hitting short with the blx...it may have been the combination of the closes pattern and the hollow core strings, but I have a few closed pattern n 6.1 95s and play well with them. So I am leaning towards the string. I thought the ignite hits a nicer serve, but blx feels a little more stable at the net. The ignite has a nice swing weight, whereas the blx felt a liitle light in that category. I would probably add a little lead to it. I guess the biggest gripe I had with both versions of the blx 6.1 95s is I prefer a raw feel and the blxs to me feel muted. With the demos I had a very difficult time discerning the location of the sweetspot. The ignite may appear stiff on paper, but it hits much softer..probably due in part to the speedholes. I would demo both...the ignite seems to be one of those you either love it or hate it frames.
 
I demod the Ignite 95 last night. I currently play with the SP Black with Hole inserts and even with a full poly strung up at 65lbs it is a rocket launcher. I needed more control.

I found the ignite to be very maneuverable for a 11.8 oz racket. It definitely rewarded me for taking big cuts at the ball, however it does not work well if you kinda slack off for a ball or two.

I loved the groundies with the Ignite. With the SP Black I have to work hard to keep it in the court with massive amts of spin. With the ignite, the spin was there but also could hit flat and have it stay in the court vs. hitting the back fence. It was refreshing.

Quick volleys were crisp and predictable, and didn't trampoline off my racket. Return of serves were better than anything I've tried since the control of this racket really let me either crack it crosscourt or change direction and go down the line with accuracy. This was my favorite part of the racket.

Serves were ok, but since its so much heavier than the SP Black, I had a timing issue. I think another time or two out and I'll have it locked in.

Overall very impressed, will probably make the switch. Not a fan of the boxy time of frame but I can get over it. I also demoed the EXO Graphite 100 and the Youteck Radical 100 and couldn't get either of them to work properly.
 
Resurrecting this thread!

This frame kind of passed me by tbh, though I really liked the Reb 95 and played that for a while and might still be... if it had an open pattern

If possible could someone please compare this frame to the Reb and N95 (I noted the OP said they were similarish)... what is the feel like?... what are it's main traits?... is this a bit of a gem that's passed below the radar?... or it's not all that?...

Thanks,

R.
 
Resurrecting this thread!

This frame kind of passed me by tbh, though I really liked the Reb 95 and played that for a while and might still be... if it had an open pattern

If possible could someone please compare this frame to the Reb and N95 (I noted the OP said they were similarish)... what is the feel like?... what are it's main traits?... is this a bit of a gem that's passed below the radar?... or it's not all that?...

Thanks,

R.

I found the Ignite to be really sluggish and "dull" feeling. IMO, the Rebel was much better. Ross, you should just go for the AG200 Tour or go for a YT Prestige Pro or even the AG200 16x20 leaded up. I am just loving my AG300 Tour. I leaded it up to 350 grams and around 225 swingweight, 8 pts HL.
 
I wanted to love the Ignite, as I like Prince frames, and have, in the past, used their heavier offerings, like the POG OS and the Diablo mid, and loved them.

In many respects it was great - perfect stiffness, a really nice feeling stringbed with a generous sweetspot, good control and good spin production.

But, it felt too whippy. 11 Pts headlight really made a difference, even though the racket is 12.2-12.3 oz. The listed SW may be 345, but it felt like 315. IMO (and it's just my opinon), there just wasn't enough weight in the head. I didn't want to have to swing so hard for the penetrating shots I wanted. I especially noticed this on my 2HBH. The weight just wasn't distributed right for me. I wonder whatever made Prince think they needed an 11 pts headlight racket?

I'm really surprised by the TW review, as several reviewers noted the lack of manueverability. I just didn't get that at all.
 
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I tried it just because I wanted something similar to my trusty n95, now that you mention it. Loved serving with the ignite. couldn't tame the power, I'm afraid.
 
I wanted to love the Ignite, as I like Prince frames, and have, in the past, used their heavier offerings, like the POG OS and the Diablo mid, and loved them.

In many respects it was great - perfect stiffness, a really nice feeling stringbed with a generous sweetspot, good control and good spin production.

But, it felt too whippy. 11 Pts headlight really made a difference, even though the racket is 12.2-12.3 oz. The listed SW may be 345, but it felt like 315. IMO (and it's just my opinon), there just wasn't enough weight in the head. I didn't want to have to swing so hard for the penetrating shots I wanted. I especially noticed this on my 2HBH. The weight just wasn't distributed right for me. I wonder whatever made Prince think they needed an 11 pts headlight racket?

I'm really surprised by the TW review, as several reviewers noted the lack of manueverability. I just didn't get that at all.

its probably one of the most manueverable heavy frames I've hit with... pretty strange comment indeed.
 
It seems like any frame over 12 ozs gets knocked for maneuverability on their reviews. I never have had a problem hitting reflex volleys with the ignite. I can understand how something like the kps or that 13oz pro kennex get knocked for it. If you are used to players frames the ignite is easy to manage.
 
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