First Impressions of the WILSON nCode Six-One Tour 90

Craig Clark

New User
Hi Matt!

Just so you know: I've not played the Fischer Pro's, other than the VERY old Vacuum Pro Stich frame.

As for the nCode 90, it is clearly the most forgiving 90si frame I've ever played, and provides suprising power.

Haven't hit the nCode 95 so I can't comment, other than to say the HPS 6.1 was a nice frame for serving and volleying, but I had lots of trouble controlling its power off the ground.

Dear Cliff,

I generally prefer my frames strung very tightly w/ a thin string. I think it improves feel and spin. The 17 guage gut popped on me after about 4 sets.....and that get's pricey, which is why I went to the Luxilon BB Ace 18, my favorite 'cheap' string. Another good but cheap string is GAMMA TNT 2 18 guage.

Best regards,

Craig
 

Craig Clark

New User
N Code 90: One month later....

Fellow Tennis Addicts,

Having now honored my commitment to play the Wilson Original PS 6.0 85 exclusively for a while and trade observations w/ Fabrice Leroy, and having broken strings in all three of the PS 6.0 85 frames I own, this morning I broke out a nCode SixOne 90 again for the first time in just over a month.

Just last night I had e mailed Fabrice to say I was settling on the PS Original 85 once and for all (at least for the near future 'all')! I'd again fallen for it's pinpoint control, awesome stability and 'plow-through' factor, maneuverability at net, nastiness on the serve, and frankly, 'old school' appeal. Then I had to go and break that last string..........

OK, I admit it, I'm neurotic. Tim has been having loads of fun over the last few weeks teasing and belittling me for playing the PS 6.0 85. Frequently heard: "Pete, it's time to come inside now!"; "the 80's are over Craig!"; and my personal favorite, "call your sponsor............NOW!!!!". :) Nonetheless the tide in our competitive play turned during the same time frame, w/ my taking a consistent lead :) Could it have been the 6.0 85????? Honestly, it may have been, 'cause not much else has changed.

Truth is I could give away all my other player's frames and never look back. But these two are just too good, and in different ways. What I noticed (again) with the nCodes was that ephemeral quality of effortless power AND control fused into one frame, as well as the INCREDIBLE spin I was generating on groundies and slice/kick serves. Tim even commented on the difference he perceived when receiving serve. Namely, that they just seemed 'heavier' and 'more difficult to attack'. He also suggested that if I go with the nCodes I'll be able to justify buying that really cool white Wilson nCode 12 pack bag, the one he secretly wants for himself. ;)

Right now my 6.0 85's are at the stringer, so between today and Wed it's all nCodes.......more to follow........

CC
 

Craig Clark

New User
TW nCode SixOne 90 Review....

Wow! I can't believe the poor review TW handed the nCode 90! I do have a theory-call it a 'String Theory' :) I'll bet it was tested w/ a stiff poly or synthetic. Just like the 6.0 85 before it, the frame is very string (and string tension) sensitive.

I hope this wasn't driven by a desire on the part of TW to prove that they are truly 'critical' in their assessments. For example, do you REALLY think the Estusa PBP Braided is EASIER to use successfully for the average player than the nCode???? Don't get me wrong-I enjoyed hitting the PBP Braided very much...BUT it is a MUCH more demanding frame than the nCode 90.

CC
 

Craig Clark

New User
nCode SixOne 90: The saga continues

I've decided to provide ongoing feedback as I play and further familiarize myself with the nCode SixOne 90, since there seems to be a good deal of interest in the subject and some degree of controversy as well.

After several weeks of playing and tweaking, I remain convinced the nCode 90 is one of the all time great player's frames. As I gain experience with this stick (now strung at 70# w/ Babolat VS 17 g natural gut) what keeps grabbing my attention is a simple truth: this is a 'user-friendly' true players' frame.

So what, you might ask, is 'user-friendly'? Good question! I'd call it the ability to provide both power and control while maintaining excellent stability in the absence of excessive vibration. I'd also refer you to the outstanding serving characteristics of this frame. The truth is that over time I've come to CLEARLY prefer it to the the PS 85 for serving. In short, it's many, if not all, the advantages of a players' frame without the major drawbacks (I don't consider wt/heft a negative).

So play-test my friends. Are the TW guys honest. Sure they are. But there are MANY factors at work in such an experiment. I am sure you will (at the very WORST) have fun and learn something new. That doesn't sound to scary, now does it?

CC
 

finchy

Professional
im demo'ing the racquet right now. i started playing with it on sunday and it felt pretty good and stable. yesterday and today however, i've been sucking pretty bad. im happy i got my surge in today. it was supposed to be on friday. anyways, i cant wait to get back to it because i dislike the feel of the ncode tour now. its way too muted. i cannot get any feel on my shots. i think its strung with NXT. i need a better string for more control. most of the time when i hit out, it either goes into the net or flies long.

its manuverability isnt the best either. in fact, i think its one of the worst manuverability racquets out there. it feels head heavy. keep in mind that this is all IMO. anyways, i was just mad today and started hitting the crap outta balls and now my armpit and elbow are hurting. i have tennis armpit. :? anyways, ill try to stick to the older, classic frames with less bells and whistles. like the PS 6.0 95, if i ever get to demo it.
 
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tennisboy87

Guest
Craig,

I know this is kind of off-topic, but I wanted to ask you a couple of questions. Can you tell me more about your experiences with the HPS 6.1? What you liked and didn't like? Also, what tension and string would you recommend? I'm kind of on a budget, so I'll probably just use Wilson Extreme Synthetic Gut 16g or 17g, but I was wondering what you thought? How about stringing at 64 lbs? Thanks for your help. I really appreciate it.
 

Craig Clark

New User
Dear Tennisboy,

I grew up playing heavy, thin beamed, flexible, low powered frames. I have very long strokes and use an Eastern FH grip, w/ OHBH. I go Continental on all other strokes. Thus, 22 mm frames weighing just a tad over 12oz w/ lots of power are generally speaking not my bag. Nonetheless I really liked the HPS 6.1 for serving and at net. I got tons of pace on the flat serve and alot of 'action' on my spin and kick second serves. It is a dream at net-very nimble and stable, w/ plenty of 'pop'. The problems I encountered were off the ground, where I simply could not control the HPS 6.1's power. And believe me I liked this frame so much on the serve and volley that I REALLY wanted to learn to use it from the backcourt. I tried a number of different string jobs, but liked Luxilon BB Alu-Power 16 'Rough' at 70# best. Good luck! CC
 

Craig Clark

New User
Greetings Fellow Addicts,

Sorry for the delay in responding. Unfortunately, work has stood between my beloved nCode 6.1 Tour 90's and I of late! :(

Yes, I am still playing the frame. And LOVING it! I haven't modified it in any way except for builing up the grip just a smidge (Tournagrip Original over the stock Wilson leather). I've settled on hybrid stringing w/ Babolat VS 17 g natural gut on the mains and Luxilon BB ALU 16 Rough on the crosses, each at 63#.

I'll stick with my original description: "User friendly player's frame." I find this racquet suits my all court game better than just about any other I've tried. I still love the PS Original 85, and the Wilson 6.0 Tour 95 (Euro) would be a close second, but the nCode 90 is clearly more forgiving than the 85 and MUCH easier to control consistently than the Euro 95. Further, the peculiar ability to GAIN control (by virtue of spin) while swinging HARDER is still there, if a bit tough to conceptualize or describe.

Best regards, and thanks for the kind words,

Craig
 

ShooterMcMarco

Hall of Fame
CC, from what i've read so far in this thread, is it safe to say that the ncode 90 requires gut for it to play well? have u tried stringing your ncode with a syn gut? i guess going all lux bb alu is a bad idea.
 

BLiND

Hall of Fame
It's strange you say the nCode 90 is more stable than the Head PC... I tired the nCode 90 against my normal stick (i.Prestige) and found it to be nowhere near as stable... also very stiff.
 

intense2b

Banned
Craig

I am going through somewhat of the same situation as you are. I am only a 5.0 serve and volleyer but my serve is my best shot. I hit them just about as fast as you or maybe dare I say a little faster (clocked at 118 with that crappy radar behind the net thingamabob). I have been fiddiling around with the ncode 95, ncode 90, and the ps 85.

I also found the 90 to be the greatest serving racquet of all time. I have never hit first serves like this in my life. however my problem is with second serves. I felt that the racquet's thin beam forced you to really "go fo it". I had to swing really hard,,,which caused errors. My second serve is probably not quite as good as yours and therein lies my problem...but lets face it...most players' second serves are probably not as good as yours. Anyway...what are your feelings regarding this racquet on second serves?

Incidentally I felt the Ncode 95 really shined on second serves. I hit the best second serves of my life with this stick. Although I lost some mileage on my first serve...the accuracy went way up. I was able to hit 8 targets in less than a bucket. In short I felt that the 90 was better for first serves and the 95 was better for second serves....maybe I should swith racquets for each serve...LOL.
 

Craig Clark

New User
Gents,

I've tried a couple of different strings/tensions, but found the hybrid plays best at 63-70#, depending on conditions. I like Luxilon alone in many frames but not this one. Ultimately an all gut string job was too powerful. I also seem to get better spin w/ the hybrid.

With regard to stability, I wonder if there is a difference in perceived stability owing to the different handle shapes and the way they 'fit' some hands but not others?? On the other hand (no pun intended) with lots of lead tape at 3/9 on the iPrestige and PC I did get excellent stability, but lost some of the great head-light mobility I crave. Different strokes, yes?! ;)

CC
 

Craig Clark

New User
Hey man, a 5.0 s/v is awesome! :)

I agree that you have to 'go for it' w/ the nCode 90 on second serves. I too lost confidence at first, but found that when I started doing so consistently I was rewarded w/ more bite, spin, and "kick" on the ball. The thin beam really 'cuts through the air', which I love. I get MORE rotation on the ball w/ thinner beams. Now I hit out on both serves, but simply use more spin on the second.

BTW, 118 mph is some serious heat! I think you definitely hit them faster than I. My best clocked times have been in the 110-115 range. But I do hit the second serve pretty well.

Don't you just love this game!!?

CC
 

intense2b

Banned
Craig,

Thanks for the compliment. Unfortunately the problem with my game is everything else! My volleys are not crisp enough and my groundstrokes are mediocre. Thats why I have some problems with the 90. My serving stroke is sound and therefore I absolutely love this stick on first serves. Unfortunately for second serves and volleys and even groundies (which I dont use very much...chip & charge baby!) the 90 is a little too intense for me (no pun intended). The 95 on the other hand may not be as strong on the first serve but it truly is a great racquet in every other department for someone like me. I find that the 90 is an all or nothing racquet. I actually had one game with three double faults and three aces...my opponent was just walking from box to box.
 
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tennisboy87

Guest
Hey guys,

Sounds like we have some seriously good serve-volleyers here. This has nothing to do with racquets, but if you don't mind, I have a question for you guys. How long did it take you to get your serve/volley game to that level? I'm a 5.0 baseliner, but my coach says that my hands are pretty good at the net. Unfortunately, while I may have good hands, it doesn't translate into solid results at the net. I'm trying to incorporate more net play into my game, and I was just wondering if you guys had any tips, helps, or comments on what to practice, work on, do, etc. Thanks a lot guys.
 

Craig Clark

New User
I think it's safe to say that it takes longer to develope a true 'attacking' or s/v game than to be very competent from the baseline. I sometimes think I actually play better tennis now at age 42 than I did as a reasonably accomplished competitive player growing up. The key is to practice as you would play. Think strategically, and rehearse sequences that can win points in matches. Repetitive volleying w/o a purpose is dull and pointless. Try to practice coming in off a short ball (ie include the approach shot in the sequence), making a solid, deep first volley, and then closing out the point w/ a winning angled volley or overhead smash. CC
 

intense2b

Banned
Craig Clark said:
I think it's safe to say that it takes longer to develope a true 'attacking' or s/v game than to be very competent from the baseline. I sometimes think I actually play better tennis now at age 42 than I did as a reasonably accomplished competitive player growing up. The key is to practice as you would play. Think strategically, and rehearse sequences that can win points in matches. Repetitive volleying w/o a purpose is dull and pointless. Try to practice coming in off a short ball (ie include the approach shot in the sequence), making a solid, deep first volley, and then closing out the point w/ a winning angled volley or overhead smash. CC
craig,
I have finally come to my conclusion. Although the 95 is better than the 90 for second serves and ground strokes...it is inferior to the 90 as far as first serves and volleys. The 95 is not nearly as manueverable at the net as the 90 is. Therefore, since I am a serve and volleyer my main weapons are my first serves and volleys. Who cares about ground strokes...I chip and charge most of the time and just try and get to the net. The 90 is clearly the right racquet for me!! I only flirted with the 95....please forgive me...lol.
 

ferrari_827

Professional
I've been curious about the ncode90 but never tried it, perhaps discouraged by the TW review and some comments. But reading the numerous reactions from people here, it might be too good a racket to not at least try.
 

Craig Clark

New User
Gang,

If you win points at net, you need a frame that excels at net! :) This touches on a major truth, a truth that is bigger than tennis (if that's possible!):

There are no perfect anythings!!!

Frames that feel great at baseline are often unwieldy at net. Frames that provide great maneuverability and 'touch' on volleys may often sacrifice stability, etc, etc, etc.

That's why I like the nCode 90 so much. As an all courter who CAN hit groundies reasonably well, but who PREFERS to get in as often as possible, and who will win most of his matches from the net, not the baseline, the nCode provides me a BALANCE of virtues.

Nonetheless, tolerance is our policy! So, those of you who have flirted with other frames are hereby forgiven!! 8)

CC
 

Craig Clark

New User
BTW Ferrari-I really think the TW review missed the mark on this frame. Overall, I've almost always agreed w/ Granville's assessments, but on this one we aren't even close. My guess is the string had something to do with it, b/c having strung my frames a number of times now I've seen tremendous variability in performance with different types, tensions, and guages of string. I've settled on a hybrid w/ VS 17 g natural gut mains and Luxilon BB ALU Rough 16 crosses, both at 63#. I urge you or anyone else interested in really seeing what this racquet can do to string your demo frame w/ a high quality string if you do elect to playtest. CC
 

intense2b

Banned
Craig Clark said:
BTW Ferrari-I really think the TW review missed the mark on this frame. Overall, I've almost always agreed w/ Granville's assessments, but on this one we aren't even close. My guess is the string had something to do with it, b/c having strung my frames a number of times now I've seen tremendous variability in performance with different types, tensions, and guages of string. I've settled on a hybrid w/ VS 17 g natural gut mains and Luxilon BB ALU Rough 16 crosses, both at 63#. I urge you or anyone else interested in really seeing what this racquet can do to string your demo frame w/ a high quality string if you do elect to playtest. CC
I partially agree with you. I feel the 90 does not play well with a synthetic string.This racquet more than any other racquet I have ever tried in my life seems to only play well with gut. Its really weird! Roman formerly of Jays also has the same viewpoint as I do (in fact he had it first and the I agreed with him after trying it out). If anyone tries this racquet they better use gut, anything else is just a waste of time. I played with vs gut 17 guage and it simply played like a different racquet than with a synthetic string. Please note that I usually play with luxilon...it is my favorite string...but not on this stick...that is my gut reaction...lol!
 
Craig Clark - Regarding: 63lbs gut mains and 63 BB Alu crosses, how is the comfort? Are you using a dampener?

Also curios to what other string combinations and hybrids you have tried in your ncode90 before settling on this one.....
 

Redflea

Hall of Fame
The nCodes don't require gut to play well - that doesn't fit my experience w/the nCode 90 at all...I played it/w multifilamant and didn't have any problems other than with the weight and stiffness, which didn't fit my game/arm as well as the Yonex RDX 500, so I ended up w/the Yonex. The nCode is probably the best serving racquet I have hit with.

Folks will have varying results w/a given combination of racquet/tension/string...one person's poison is another's nirvana (seen that over and over again here). :)
 

Craig Clark

New User
Hummm, string jobs for my nCode 6.1 90's......well:

Babolat VS Touch Gut 17 g mains/Luxilon BB 16 crosses at 63#
(this is my current rig and I LOVE it).....plays very well, no problems w/ comfort. Probably a little stiffer than some will prefer, but is perfect for my tastes.

VS Touch Gut 17g @70#: second favorite set up! The most comfortable of them all, but too much power off the ground. GREAT for serving. Lots of 'kick' on second serves.

Luxilon BB Ace 18 g @65#: great power, but a bit stiff, even by my standards. Outstanding spin. HEAT on first serves. Diminished 'touch' on volleys.

GAMMA TNT 18 g @60#: WAY too powerful, but very comfy. Lots of spin and kick on serves-I could 'break off' serves out wide in the deuce court at will. Caused some opponents to run into the netting. PROBLEM: break strings every set or two.

CAC
 

Craig Clark

New User
Oh, forgot to mention-no dampener. I gave them up about a year ago. I think I benefit from 'hearing' the ball more at impact, especially outdoors.
 

Anonymous

Professional
Craig, I'm a 15yr old Jr. player, and I recently switched to the n90; it sounds like I have the same strokes as you except I don't serve and volley. I switched to a 1H backhand about a month and a half ago (which I love), use an Eastern, Flat forehand n have a big serve. I love this racket, but I've had great success stringing it at 58lbs w/ Wilson Sensation Synthetic, a relatively cheap string. It's kinda funny because I usually am really sensetive to strings, and usually play with either natural or a high quality Poly in the 15$ range, but this seemed to play amazingly well with Sensation. What'd you string it at and with what string? This racket is great for the Eastern forehand, eh?
 

Craig Clark

New User
Good morning-

See my last post for various string/tension combos.

I like Wilson Sensation, but I think it loses tension VERY quickly. This creates 'hidden costs' b/c you need to restring more often, say in comparison to an all natural gut job.

And yes, I've never hit my forehand better. :)

CC
 

Craig Clark

New User
OK, believe it or not, more than one year has passed and I've been faithful (more or less) to the nCode 90 the entire time.

What caused me to change my racquet philandering ways? In a word, balance. The nCode 90 provides a balance of virtues unmatched in my experience. Great cosmetics (yes they matter), a fine pick up weight and heft, excellent touch/feel, plenty of power, access to spin, and of course fine maneuverability. Most of all, I generally play well with this frame, and do so in all areas, ie groundies, volleys, serves, overheads, transition/specialty shots, etc.

So goodbye Babolat, Head, Prince, Volkl, Dunlop, Estusa, PK, and all the others. At least for now.................. ;)

CC
 
Craig,

I bought an RDX mid after reading all the hype about it on these boards - only to go back to the ncode90. Just love the plough through factor an pace off the forehand and backhand.

You should try some of the new uncoated Klip Legend Gut in your ncode when you next restring. After using Babolat Touch\Tonic in 16G for almost 2 years, I have now switched to the Klip uncoated. I have found durability to be the same. Feel and control are greatly increased. I will be trying the 17G uncoated as soon as our indoor season starts again.

Happy hitting!
 

hyperwarrior

Professional
Craig Clark said:
After many restless days of anticipation, my first of two (matched pair) Wilson nCode Six-One Tours arrived via Fed Ex yesterday. Of course, I was immediately off to the courts for extended demos both last night and this afternoon! Here are my initial impressions after a total of approximately five and a half hours of drilling and competitive point play against a very capable 5.5 player. Owing to nasty weather w/ scattered showers and thunderstorms, the tests took place indoors, on medium speed hard courts.

The tester: 42yo male. 6'2", 181#. 5.0-5.5 aggressive all courter.

Frame of Reference: Wilson PS 6.0 95 Tour, Euro version, strung at 63# w/ the same Hybrid (VS Touch 17 guage natural gut/Lux BB ALU 16 Rough) listed below.

Aesthetics, and 'Subjective Feel': The nCode frame has a quality feel and is very nicely made, w/ consistent paint and a great 'pick up' weight. In comparison to the Tour 90 (also on hand for side by side assessment, and strung identically) the first thing one notices, even before a ball is struck, is the difference in weight distribution. The nCode frame feels equally substantial but is easier to swing. My guess would be that the SW will fall in the low 320's, maybe even slightly less. The head size looks VERY similiar to my Euro 6.0 95's. In fact they are nearly identical,even though the two frames are listed at 90si and 95si respectively. Go figure. And oh, yes I do love those Wilson leather grips, and the shape of the underlying handle!

Specifications of tested frame: 12.4 oz strung; 9 points HL w/ the Wilson Pro Overgrip installed. No dampener, thank you. Strung w/ a hybrid: VS Touch natural gut 17 guage on the mains at 60#, Luxilon BB ALU Rough 16 on the crosses at 58#.

Groundstrokes:

FH-I LOVE this frame on the forehand, just like I did the Tour 90 when I first played it, and just like I remember my love affair w/ the old PS 6.0 85. Since I began playing the Euro 6.0 95 Tour last summer my forehand has become my second best shot (after my serve). Take note: the nCode is truly a superior weapon on the forehand groundstroke. Why? Well, with the nCode I was able to generate more racquet head speed AND spin. This spells greater velocity and enhanced control. The result was the ability to rip forehands w/ tremendous 'weight' and 'bite', driving my opponent backward, deeper in the court and opening angles for easy winners. I found myself swinging away, without fear of the ball 'flying' or a loss of control. My opponent commented on more than one occasion about the 'heaviness' of my FH groundstroke when using the nCode SixOne Tour.

BH-For a long time my one handed topspin backhand had been my stronger, more reliable groundstroke. This changed last summer (see above) with my move to the Euro Tour 95. Enter the nCode SixOne and voila the BH is back baby, neck and neck w/ the forehand again! Indeed, all the same comments noted above concerning the FH apply to the backhand. Namely, more racquet head speed and RPM's on the ball translate to the ability to pick a target and let 'er rip! One shot I struggled with when using both the 6.0 85 and the T90 was the down the line topspin drive (to occasionally break open a rally or keep my opponent off guard). I found myself hitting it late with these frames. Not so w/ the nCode SixOne. Put simply, it was easier to get the racquet back early and then strike THROUGH the contact point. In my opinion, one of the hallmarks of all great 'players' frames is the 'plow through' factor. Think hot Ginsu meets Parkay here. And speaking of slice, I've never had the pleasure of playing any frame better for my OHBH slice approach shot. I never had to measure it-just lean in, strike it firmly, and get ready to volley!

Transition/Touch Shots: Slice approaches (see above) were produced as well as I am capable of hitting them. The racquet is heavy enough but still feels very nimble, allowing half volleys and 'pick ups' to flow naturally, and with excellent control. Low approach volleys felt crisp and were easily directed as I pleased. I threw in a few drop or intentionally short approach shots just for fun and was suprised by the amount of back/side-spin I was getting. However if I have a major fuss w/ this frame it is in the ephemeral area of touch-there is a 'muted' quality to the nCode SixOne-not in a 'Volkl-like' way-but definitely noticeable, especially in comparison to my reference Euro Tour 95 and the the PS 6.0 85. I didn't always get the 'feedback' from the frame some other player's sticks provide.

Volleys: The 6.0 85 and T90 were each highly regarded by s/v players, and for good reason. I liked, but did not love, serving and volleying with my Euro 6.0 95. Truth be known (at least MY truth) the Tour 90 could feel a little 'clunky' at net, esp in fast paced exchanges. The nCode SixOne on the other hand seems to preserve the best features of its predeccesors (heft and reasonable maneuverabiity) while adding a certain 'firmness' and stability not found in its forerunners (IMHO) when hitting volleys. It is also CLEARLY more agile. I found myself getting to more difficult volleys and controlling them. Again, Wilson seems to have found a balance between weight/stability and maneurverability that's hard to describe, but certainly in evidence when a guy fires a 90MPH groundie right at your privates. Set the racquet, firm your wrist, and let the frame do the rest! ACCURACY on the volley was another forte of the nCode. This frame can also offer plenty of 'pop' but you have to have good technique and use your feet to transfer body weight into the volley. This became evident toward the end of our nearly three hour hit today, when I began to tire a bit at net. (Read: my tongue was hanging out and I was a bit deyhdrated, but wanted to keep hitting)

Serves/Overheads: Here's the best part-I can really serve with this thing! I know, I know......the PS 6.0 85 is a great frame for serving. I didn't say it wasn't/isn't. Just not that great FOR ME. I can blast the flat first serve w/ the 6.0 85, and get DECENT kick on the second. Same with the T90 and Euro Tour 95. Honestly I've always felt my serve suffered a bit when I changed to the Euro 95 last year-this was one area where I found the PS 6.0 95 Original superior. With the n Code I was absolutely launching the first serve, and hitting the kick and slice serves to the outer limits of my ability. I was able to both pound and place overheads better as well-again I think this was related to the more maneuverable feel of the frame. It just felt a bit easier to get the racquet prepared early. Initially I was (pleasantly) suprised by the serving performance of the nCode SixOne. But maybe I shouldn't have been! After all, more racquet head speed and greater 'bite' on the ball to produce more vigorous spin would certainly only help the serve, yes? And these qualities were in fact the very first things I noticed when hitting groundies in 'drill' format with the nCode.

Conclusion: The nCode SixOne Tour 90 is one heck of a fine player's frame. I can't speak to the role of 'nano-technology' in determining the observed end results, but this stick DOES in fact feel more stable AND more maneuverable in play. I'd say it also possesses a most unique and (to me at least) truly fascinating quality-somehow both power AND control seem enhanced in comparison to it's 'lineage' frames, the 6.0 85 and T90. To get picky, it does NOT offer the last word in 'feel'-Volkl and Head probably still hold those trophies. But for a balance of virtues, and for serving peformance, the nCode will be tough to better. I'll be buying two more (sorry Fabrice).

P.S. In the interest of fairness, given my 'gushing' over this frame, I had a similiarly favorable initial impression of the Tour 90, but found it ultimately NOT my cup of tea over time, primarily owing to it's aforementioned percieved occasional 'clunkiness' at net. I will keep you posted!
Did you find the racquet too demanding when you try it the first time?
The 1st time I play with it, I got tired easily after hitting 4-5 balls. I was questioning if I made a mistake buying the nCode 90. I switched from a Wilson Hyper Hammer 4.0 , 8.8oz, to the nCode 90.
I decide to keep it and after I play more and more, I got used to the weight and I can play around 2 hours with ease. The racquet is stable and I agree the feel is muted. Overall, I love it and and it's surprising I don't mis-hit a lot like the playtesters of TW says.
 

ART ART

Semi-Pro
Very impressive racket, even at first time. Very stable, one of the most stable rackets ever made. It looks like the old school rackets, can't compare to the new generations of rackets, this is good stuff.
 

FireSon

New User
Craig Clark said:
OK, believe it or not, more than one year has passed and I've been faithful (more or less) to the nCode 90 the entire time.
CC
Well same here more or less. I have tried several other racquets (playtests) but have always come back to the n90 mainly because of the groundstrokes, it feels like "coming home" when returning to this racquet. Nothing beats the feeling of ripping a backhand return crosscourt with this racquet! And you are absolutely right that the good thing (for me as well) is the balance.

The only reason for looking for something else was my volley, but I invested a great deal of time in it and the results are rewarding!


Dropped the tention to 55 lbs (25kg) over the year, which provides me the best combination of power and control.

Nice to hear the feedback of other users as well after a year of play!
 

hyperwarrior

Professional
FireSon said:
Well same here more or less. I have tried several other racquets (playtests) but have always come back to the n90 mainly because of the groundstrokes, it feels like "coming home" when returning to this racquet. Nothing beats the feeling of ripping a backhand return crosscourt with this racquet! And you are absolutely right that the good thing (for me as well) is the balance.

The only reason for looking for something else was my volley, but I invested a great deal of time in it and the results are rewarding!


Dropped the tention to 55 lbs (25kg) over the year, which provides me the best combination of power and control.

Nice to hear the feedback of other users as well after a year of play!
Was it hard to use the first time you played with it? I mean was it demanding?
 

Flatspin

Rookie
I agree with Blind. I demoed a n code tour 90 with a buddy of mine. I found it to be a decent frame but found it not nearly as stable as my regular stick ... the i Prestige mid. I thought the ncode 90, however, was generally a very capable frame and could be a good platform to base one's game. Good review Graig!!
 
I bought the ncode six-one tour after reading the passionate review that started this thread. I think I'm only a 4.0 intermediate player, but I have the better looking strokes in my club ;) , I'm just a little lazy with my footwork.
The thing is, everybody here thinks I'm crazy for using this heavy stick with this small head.
All I can say is that this racquet makes me happy, and when you feel happy with your stick, you'll do whatever you have to do to compensate any disadvantage you might experience. Hell, I even run on court!!
After playing with all the models available in my country, I have found power, control, plow through factor, spin, touch and joy with this baby.
Thanks a lot Craig!.
 
Fellow Tennis Addicts,

I summarized my first couple of weeks of experience with the nCode 90 just as they happened............so no, it wasn't a big adjustment. But remember I was using a 12.4 oz, 10 pt HL frame w/ a 65 flex in the Euro HPS 6.0 Tour 95 before moving to the nCode 90. That's nothing like the change you are describing in coming from a 8.8oz HH 4.0.


I will try the uncoated Klip gut. Sounds great!!

Best,

Craig
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
But Craig, aren't you back to using the PS Tour 90 now instead of the nCode 90? As you've mentioned in another thread tonight, you've sold off most of your nCode 90's and are using the Tour 90 now, right? So I guess the honeymoon with the nCode 90 really is over then? If so, why?
 

LordRaceR

Rookie
Hmm, it is interesting to see that a lot of people like nCode90. Man, obviously Federer and marketing are everything.
 
Hello Breakpoint and Other Tennis Nuts,

Yes, I am in fact back to the Tour 90. I think it was the 'muted' quality to the nCode 90 that finally broke the magic for me. There is definitely less feel (and more power) when hitting with the nCode 90 when compared to either of my other faves, the Tour 90, Euro HPS 6.0 95, or i Prestie mid. This is true even when strung w/ gut at high tension (I like 'em around 70#).

Best,

Craig
 

pham4313

Professional
Craig,
On racquetsports industry magazine, (http://www.racquetsportsindustry.com March issue and racket selection map of 04 and 05) they said the Tour 90 is a tad more powerful than the ncode with rating level of 1960 vs 1930 or something. And it seems to me the ncode 90 is flexier with a stiffness of 66 compared to 68 in the Tour 90. Everything on the ncode 90 looks like the PS original 85 except larger headsize. Thus, powerwise, the ncode 90 should be less powerful than the Tour 90 at least on groundies. Whats your take?
 

omigod

Rookie
One thing I have noticed about Ncode 90 Tour that the framed shots tend to go in play. I guess the PS6.0 85 and Ncode 90 both have flat & wide frames which make good contact with the ball!
 

Marius_Hancu

Talk Tennis Guru
omigod said:
One thing I have noticed about T90, the frame shots tend to go in play.
I would not be so sure about that. Even Fed loses many of these. OK, he has a PJ, but still close.

IMO, ProStaff Tour 90 isn't that nice as 6.0 85 when not hit in the sweetspot, both from the baseline and at the net. Not sure about n-code Tour 90.

But it generates easier top and has more power.
 

omigod

Rookie
Craig A. Clark said:
Hello Breakpoint and Other Tennis Nuts,

Yes, I am in fact back to the Tour 90. I think it was the 'muted' quality to the nCode 90 that finally broke the magic for me. There is definitely less feel (and more power) when hitting with the nCode 90 when compared to either of my other faves, the Tour 90, Euro HPS 6.0 95, or i Prestie mid. This is true even when strung w/ gut at high tension (I like 'em around 70#).

Best,

Craig
Did you need to reinforce the frame to string at 70#? I string mine at 65# with VS Team 17 and the string usually breaks after 6 hours of play.

I don't mind it so much since I play tennis about 1 hour a week :|
 

JPlay_1723

New User
do any of you guys use the ncode90 with a 2 hand backhand?....That was the stroke that gave me problems with this racquet.
 
pham4313 said:
Craig,
On racquetsports industry magazine, (http://www.racquetsportsindustry.com March issue and racket selection map of 04 and 05) they said the Tour 90 is a tad more powerful than the ncode with rating level of 1960 vs 1930 or something. And it seems to me the ncode 90 is flexier with a stiffness of 66 compared to 68 in the Tour 90. Everything on the ncode 90 looks like the PS original 85 except larger headsize. Thus, powerwise, the ncode 90 should be less powerful than the Tour 90 at least on groundies. Whats your take?
I can't say that's been my experience. The nCode 90 seems substantially more powerful to me from all areas of the court. It's interesting how sometimes the 'subjective experience' or 'feel' of the frame can so differ from the published specs.

Speaking of which, there has been some substantial differneces in published and measured specs on the nCode 90. My original matched pair weighed 12.4oz strung. A second pair tipped the scale at a whopping 12.8 strung!!!

CC
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Craig A. Clark said:
Speaking of which, there has been some substantial differneces in published and measured specs on the nCode 90. My original matched pair weighed 12.4oz strung. A second pair tipped the scale at a whopping 12.8 strung!!!
That's Wilson's great quality control for ya! :rolleyes: Not unusual at all for Wilson racquets. :(
 
It's truly one of the most frustrating things in this hobby, because there can be enormous variation in playability between frames with such widely disparate specs.

I wonder what company(ies) tend to make the most consistent frames? I know my Euro HPS 6.0 95's are all EXACTLY the same in terms of static weight and balance points. So maybe Wilson CAN do it........they just don't ALWAYS do it! :cool:

CC
 

NoBadMojo

G.O.A.T.
Fischer and Volkl make the tightest tolerance frames and nobody else seems to come close i dont think. Industry standard tolerance is .03, Volkl is .015 and Fischer I still believe labels all their frames w. weight, and i think balance and they all feel as they should swingweight wise. Also all companies can change specs from time to time. It's always a good idea to buy multiple frames at the same time and get them to send you closest matches, otherwise you can get frames with wildly varying specs.
 
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