First official league match back

OnTheLine

Hall of Fame
Yes ... the nerves show up. Was up 5-2 in the first set was playing freely and no pressure. Suddenly noticed the score and tightened up, closed it out 6-4. Second set was serving up at 5-4 and again with the nerves ... lost it 7-5. I do not even want to talk about the tie breaker.

In terms of verticality .....no, my nemesis is not becoming a lob queen, I just don't lob, ever, even when I should.

The first sign of nerves in my game: groundstrokes hitting the tape.
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
You haven't watched enough ladies 3.0-3.5 tennis or men's 3.0. Or seniors mens doubles. The worse the quality of the overheads, the higher the likelihood of lobs being employed in competition. As overheads get better, lobs get less frequent.

I just don't lob, ever, even when I should.
I used to be that way and then I learned how effective it was in the right setting so I worked on my lob. It is a great tool but likely should never be the only tool. Watch someone like Bianca Andreescu and she'll throw everything at you including lobs to see what you can handle and what you struggle with. Sunny/Windy days is a great time to pull it out.
 

brettatk

Semi-Pro
We had our first 40+ match back yesterday. Definitely saw lots of rust our there from most. We had a line that won the first set 6-2, up 5-0 in second. They lost the second set 6-7 and then lost super tie breaker 8-10. I'd say nerves were part of it. The other team was a good team though. I think most of it had to do with them shaking off a lot of rust and playing much better in second set and ST.
 

travlerajm

G.O.A.T.
You haven't watched enough ladies 3.0-3.5 tennis or men's 3.0. Or seniors mens doubles. The worse the quality of the overheads, the higher the likelihood of lobs being employed in competition. As overheads get better, lobs get less frequent.



I used to be that way and then I learned how effective it was in the right setting so I worked on my lob. It is a great tool but likely should never be the only tool. Watch someone like Bianca Andreescu and she'll throw everything at you including lobs to see what you can handle and what you struggle with. Sunny/Windy days is a great time to pull it out.
In fairness to her, she lives at altitude in a place that’s always 100F. If she puts up a lob, it’s hard to accurately control where and when it will come back down.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
And I lost in 3rd set tie-breaker.

Good to be back. If there was any doubt that there is a difference between a match that "counts" and a pick-up match has been fully quelled.
Did you have to follow any special rules, like individual cans and no touching?
 

OnTheLine

Hall of Fame
In fairness to her, she lives at altitude in a place that’s always 100F. If she puts up a lob, it’s hard to accurately control where and when it will come back down.
Although this is true. (thankfully not always 100F!) At altitude and in thin desert air the lob requires a bit more skill it seems. It is also why a good lob can be very effective as it is also difficult to return well. When I play at sea level I can lob much more easily and effectively.

This was not the weekend for a lob ... winds at 25mph for all 3 of my league matches (Ladies' 3.5 & 4.0 and mixed) Lucky me, lost all 3.
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
In fairness to her, she lives at altitude in a place that’s always 100F. If she puts up a lob, it’s hard to accurately control where and when it will come back down.
As a PNW resident, the dense air does bring the lob down pretty quickly. But sometimes too quickly. Generally i have more concern about putting up a sitter than sending a lob long.

winds at 25mph for all 3 of my league matches (Ladies' 3.5 & 4.0 and mixed) Lucky me, lost all 3.
I love wind for lobs. Secret is putting the lob into the wind and let it do it's thing. Never lob with the wind. I had a breezy day yesterday and put up a crosscourt lob that ended up being a DTL lob by the time it landed. Totally discombobulated the opponents. Admittedly 25 mph is more than breezy and is the kind of wind I tend to avoid playing tennis and golf in. It becomes more about survival at that point.
 

travlerajm

G.O.A.T.
Never lob with the wind.
I actually prefer lobbing when the wind is behind me. Your opponent is forced to play the ball in the air because it could bounce over the fence.

On the other hand a lob against the wind is not necessarily a point ender if it goes over your opponent’s head. He gets a second chance to play the ball after the bounce. And a short sky lob against the wind gives your opponent the option of hitting an overhead after the bounce from almost the same location as the first bounce.
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
I actually prefer lobbing when the wind is behind me. Your opponent is forced to play the ball in the air because it could bounce over the fence.

On the other hand a lob against the wind is not necessarily a point ender if it goes over your opponent’s head. He gets a second chance to play the ball after the bounce. And a short sky lob against the wind gives your opponent the option of hitting an overhead after the bounce from almost the same location as the first bounce.
Guess it depends on what type of lob you are playing. If I'm playing into the wind I can hit the sky high underspin lob that totally screws most people up when it bounces forward out of their reach. Into the wind you can really hit it and be confident it stays in the court. Downwind that thing carries beyond the baseline. Only lob I can effectively hit down wind is the extreme topspin lob and that's a far more challenging shot for me to hit.

If you are like me, you are pretty good at playing either indoors or in cool and damp breezy conditions, but awful when the sun is in your eyes.
It's funny but my favorite conditions to play in are overcast cool days. I can see the ball better, I can rip into it with impunity. Worst days for me are bright blue skies. No contrast in the sky means my serves and overheads are terrible and for some reason I struggle reading the ball in bright light even with tennis specific sunglasses.

When i go down to Palm Desert it takes me days to get on track with seeing the ball well.
 

TennisHound

Legend
And I lost in 3rd set tie-breaker.

Good to be back. If there was any doubt that there is a difference between a match that "counts" and a pick-up match has been fully quelled.
Yep, we’ve all been there. Everything is tighter in a usta match. We’ll all get our chance lol. Sorry for the loss, but it sounds like you had a good first match back, though.
 

winchestervatennis

Hall of Fame
You haven't watched enough ladies 3.0-3.5 tennis or men's 3.0. Or seniors mens doubles. The worse the quality of the overheads, the higher the likelihood of lobs being employed in competition. As overheads get better, lobs get less frequent.



I used to be that way and then I learned how effective it was in the right setting so I worked on my lob. It is a great tool but likely should never be the only tool. Watch someone like Bianca Andreescu and she'll throw everything at you including lobs to see what you can handle and what you struggle with. Sunny/Windy days is a great time to pull it out.
No i havent. But not all of us are ladies 3.0-3.5, mens 3.0, or senior men.
 

Chalkdust

Rookie
Whenever I feel myself starting to get tight, I remind myself that (a) I do this for fun, and (b) the outcome is really meaningless. Turns out playing loose and playing the way I enjoy playing is not only more fun but actually produces better results as well.
 

taydbear7

Rookie
Played for the first time last night. I'm a notorious slow starter or maybe it was nerves but started down 2-3 and went on to win 6-3, 6-3. We were up 5-1 in the second set and got too relaxed.
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
No i havent. But not all of us are ladies 3.0-3.5, mens 3.0, or senior men.
True but the OP is a 3.5 woman. So I was staying within that group.

As I've said in other posts, the better the quality of the overheads the less likely you are to see verticality in the shot making. So I thoroughly expect lobs to get less relevant as players get better with their overheads.
 

eshin

New User
With a lot of sections starting up and Sectionals/Nationals scheduling up in the air, what changes to league offerings have you seen? Here in SoCal, we've seen Spring Men's and Women's Leagues canceled and the addition of another Fall Mixed League.

And with all these changes and no Nationals, has anyone heard any new details about YE ratings? @schmke wrote a post about it on his blog a few weeks ago - any new rumors?
 

schmke

Hall of Fame
With a lot of sections starting up and Sectionals/Nationals scheduling up in the air, what changes to league offerings have you seen? Here in SoCal, we've seen Spring Men's and Women's Leagues canceled and the addition of another Fall Mixed League.

And with all these changes and no Nationals, has anyone heard any new details about YE ratings? @schmke wrote a post about it on his blog a few weeks ago - any new rumors?
Nationals is not up in the air. It is canceled.

Some (most?) sections have already canceled Sectionals too.

I have not heard more about YE ratings. I sent some questions and ideas to folks at the USTA but no response, and at least one is no longer there after the layoffs earlier this week.
 
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