First serve called out by serving team

[sovertennis]

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That's horse poop...if you both agree it was out...then it was out. end of story...second serve.

You misunderstand. This is old guys (who have been PLAYING FOR 60 YEARS!) arguing about trivial nonsense although the fate of the world is at stake.

 

[Dartagnan64]

this is pretty simple. Since neither the out call or the hindrance call were made in a timely fashion, the point stands as played. Netted return. Servers point.

Now in social matches it’s sensible to just replay the point as both sides were being dopes.

 

[zaskar1]

I tried researching this online, but what I found was inconclusive - "26. Service calls by serving team. Neither the server nor server’s partner shall make a fault call on the first service even if they think it is out because the receiver may be giving the server the benefit of the doubt. There is one exception. If the receiver plays a first service that is a fault and does not put the return in play, the server or server’s partner may make the fault call.
https://www.usta.com/content/dam/usta/pdfs/2015_Code.pdf
So here's the situation: while playing men's doubles (a friendly game, not league) I inadvertently called my partner's first serve out as I was very close to the net and clearly saw it on the wrong side of the center line. The receiving player had hesitated and then ended up hitting the serve in to the net, with no call from his partner. I admitted that I was wrong in calling a ball on their side of the net, and the receiver admitted that he too thought that the serve was wide and out, though I'm not sure if his hesitation was because the ball was actually out or because I called it out. (Yeah, I know players that will come to the net and smack a winner that was obviously served out and then say it was always their call! If it's a return winner then they claim it was in, but if they hit it out or in the net they claim that the serve was obviously out.) So I then said second serve, and they said "Hold on, by me calling it 'out' that that was a hindrance and they wanted the point." If both sides agree that the first serve was out, then how could there be a hindrance and shouldn't it just be a second serve?

jim
you should not be making calls on your partner's service, it is up to the receiving team to determine if the serve is in or out.
if they played the serve as it was in, you should just play the point.
doesnt sound like a friendly game since they wanted the point because you made the service call.
you should just play a second serve, since you both agreed the serve was out, but refrain from making
calls in the future.
in league, i just play the point, even though the serve is obviously out, and keep my comments to myself.
in a friendly game, i point out the the serve was out and offer to replay the point.
z