First String Job

PeterPanda

Semi-Pro
I'm going to be stringing my first racquet in a few days with a Gamma X-2. I'm not sure if i'm doing 2 way string job or just one. I'm not really sure which one's easier. The only thing i'm worried about when to tie and how. Most racquets have 6 to 8 holes on the bottom but the one im going to due my first job on is a junior racquet so i get to know what im doing but their are four holes. But their are no instructions on the prince website. Is their anything else i'm missing?
 

Jonny S&V

Hall of Fame
Do a two-piece, far less complicated than a one-piece. As for the junior racquet dealeo, make note of the pattern and tie-offs before you string it.
 
I'm going to be stringing my first racquet in a few days with a Gamma X-2. I'm not sure if i'm doing 2 way string job or just one. I'm not really sure which one's easier. The only thing i'm worried about when to tie and how. Most racquets have 6 to 8 holes on the bottom but the one im going to due my first job on is a junior racquet so i get to know what im doing but their are four holes. But their are no instructions on the prince website. Is their anything else i'm missing?
I would go with a 2-piece for your first job. I think its easier. As far as practicing on a junior racquet I would be careful there. If its a cheaper "Dept Store" racquet the frames sometimes aren't really meant to be restrung. Go with a low tension if you do. I would just go ahead and string up your Babolat. As long as you mount it properly and take it slow you'll be fine. If you mess up start over. As far as knot tying, Irvin has an excellent video on all various knots. Find it here: http://www.youtube.com/user/Mr10sStringer?feature=mhee#p/a/u/0/aGyDh4gW8DE
 

Jonahan

Rookie
I would definitely pass on the junior racquet. If it's not meant to be restrung and you tension it to tightly, you may break it. You're not going to hurt your Babolat as long as you string it two piece. (You could, potentially, damage it if you string it one piece, crosses up, and the racquet's not supposed to be strung that way. I haven't looked up the stringing pattern for it. However, two piece, you'll be fine.) It's also, as others have written, simply easier to string two piece. Plus, you'll get to practice 4 knots instead of 2. ;)

Also, assuming you don't have a starting clamp, be sure you use an appropriate knot to start your crosses, such as the "bulky knot." You don't want to use a tie-off knot and then pull tension on it.
 

Jonny S&V

Hall of Fame
I would definitely pass on the junior racquet. If it's not meant to be restrung and you tension it to tightly, you may break it. You're not going to hurt your Babolat as long as you string it two piece. (You could, potentially, damage it if you string it one piece, crosses up, and the racquet's not supposed to be strung that way. I haven't looked up the stringing pattern for it. However, two piece, you'll be fine.) It's also, as others have written, simply easier to string two piece. Plus, you'll get to practice 4 knots instead of 2. ;)

Also, assuming you don't have a starting clamp, be sure you use an appropriate knot to start your crosses, such as the "bulky knot." You don't want to use a tie-off knot and then pull tension on it.
I don't think I've run into a Babolat that can't be strung bottom-up, but he should still do two-piece.
 

PeterPanda

Semi-Pro
These are the stringing instructions for my racquet these instructions look like a one piece. One of the reasons why i didn't want to string my baabolat is if i get confused and don't know how to finish the racquet myself.
 

Jonny S&V

Hall of Fame
These are the stringing instructions for my racquet these instructions look like a one piece. One of the reasons why i didn't want to string my baabolat is if i get confused and don't know how to finish the racquet myself.
There are four circles. Hence, there are four tie-offs. You tie-off the mains at 6M and 16M. You tie the starting knot at 7M for the crosses, and tie-off at 22C. There is literally very little that can go wrong (save for a misweave, which isn't going to do any damage).
 
These are the stringing instructions for my racquet these instructions look like a one piece. One of the reasons why i didn't want to string my baabolat is if i get confused and don't know how to finish the racquet myself.
Those instuctions are for two piece stringing. Notice the four tie off circles. That is how you will want to string it. You shouldn't have any trouble. The only slightly tricky part is the last cross tie-off which ties off on a cross string and its a little cramped. Just use a pro knot here so its less bulky.
 

PeterPanda

Semi-Pro
There are four circles. Hence, there are four tie-offs. You tie-off the mains at 6M and 16M. You tie the starting knot at 7M for the crosses, and tie-off at 22C. There is literally very little that can go wrong (save for a misweave, which isn't going to do any damage).
Okay, i think im good to go. If i have any more questions i'll post. Thanks. Probably wont start stringing until Thursday or Friday.
 

SirGounder

Hall of Fame
I'm going to be stringing my first racquet in a few days with a Gamma X-2. I'm not sure if i'm doing 2 way string job or just one. I'm not really sure which one's easier. The only thing i'm worried about when to tie and how. Most racquets have 6 to 8 holes on the bottom but the one im going to due my first job on is a junior racquet so i get to know what im doing but their are four holes. But their are no instructions on the prince website. Is their anything else i'm missing?
Did you by chance pick up the X2 via for $126 at an large online retailer? Just curious. Happy stringing. Everybody was on point with their suggestions.
 

schap02

Semi-Pro
I usually use the parnell knot for all tie-offs, never had any issues, happy stringing and let us know if you have any questions
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
I'm going to be stringing my first racquet in a few days with a Gamma X-2. I'm not sure if i'm doing 2 way string job or just one. I'm not really sure which one's easier. The only thing i'm worried about when to tie and how. Most racquets have 6 to 8 holes on the bottom but the one im going to due my first job on is a junior racquet so i get to know what im doing but their are four holes. But their are no instructions on the prince website. Is their anything else i'm missing?
The racket in your post is a Prince racket and I quite different from your normal racket. I would NOT jump in and try to string it two piece you may run into an immediate problem when you can't start your crosses.

Looking at the racket it is a 16 main racket which starts at the head and the mains skip 8h and 8t. Because it starts at the head the mains will end at the head. Look to see if there are two tie holes (much larger grommet holes) at the top of the racket. If there are not you may need to string that racket one piece. Don't string that junior racket as high as you would a normal racket. Look for tension range on the racket.

On you standard racket (Babolat Z Lite) you have a different story. You can string it one piece or two piece. I would string it two piece. If you look at the pattern closely you will see the dotted lines for two piece stringing. Follow the solid lines for one piece stringing. Babolat does not make the best pattern pictures I've seen but what it shows is both the one piece and two piece pattern on the same picture.
 

PeterPanda

Semi-Pro
Looked at the prince it has only be knotted twice. By the throat on the second to last main on the left. And the upper third to last main to the left on the head.
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
Looked at the prince it has only be knotted twice. By the throat on the second to last main on the left. And the upper third to last main to the left on the head.
That is because the mains ended at the top. If there are two large grommet holes on each side of the racket at the top you have the option to string it two piece. If not you should string it one piece for now.
 

PeterPanda

Semi-Pro
That is because the mains ended at the top. If there are two large grommet holes on each side of the racket at the top you have the option to string it two piece. If not you should string it one piece for now.
Yeah, no bigger holes. I'll string my babolat up. My package delivery date is tomorrow i'll put it together. Might start stringing tomorrow but might wait until after Wensday which is when i play.
 

PeterPanda

Semi-Pro
I've done like six mains not even though one has more on one side than the other. I recorded where the two knots were but since i'm doing two piece shouldn't their be 4? Also do i have skip any lines? If so how do i tell? I'm doing the prince racquet.
 
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I've done like six mains not even though one has more on one side than the other. I recorded where the two knots were but since i'm doing two piece shouldn't their be 4? Also do i have skip any lines? If so how do i tell?
The Drive Z Lite skips the 8th grommet hole on head and throat for the mains. Tie off for the mains is at 6 throat (on both sides so you have 2 knots at the throat so far). Tie off for top cross is 7 head (start crosses at 8 top). Tie off for bottom cross is 10 throat. So when your done you have 4 knots total.
 

PeterPanda

Semi-Pro
The Drive Z Lite skips the 8th grommet hole on head and throat for the mains. Tie off for the mains is at 6 throat (on both sides so you have 2 knots at the throat so far). Tie off for top cross is 7 head (start crosses at 8 top). Tie off for bottom cross is 10 throat. So when your done you have 4 knots total.
I did the prince, sorry for not saying that in the post. Also if i was stringing the babolat how would i skip the 8th grommet that would where i would start the racquet. Also how would i get back to that screen.
 
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I did the prince, sorry for not saying that in the post. Also if i was stringing the babolat how would i skip the 8th grommet that would where i would start the racquet. Also how would i get back to that screen.
Sorry I didn't realize you were talking about the prince. As far as the Babolat the crosses start at 8th grommet hole at the head (assuming 2 piece) which is the hole you skip when doing the mains...not sure what you mean about getting back the the screen??
 

PeterPanda

Semi-Pro
Sorry I didn't realize you were talking about the prince. As far as the Babolat the crosses start at 8th grommet hole at the head (assuming 2 piece) which is the hole you skip when doing the mains...not sure what you mean about getting back the the screen??
I meant the grommet. I read USRSA book and said the ones i skipped will be occupied by cross strings how can that be?
 
I meant the grommet. I read USRSA book and said the ones i skipped will be occupied by cross strings how can that be?
I think you might be confusing the "tie off" for the cross with "starting hole" for the crosses. You tie off (starting knot) to the main in the 7th hole. Then start weaving crosses from the 8th hole. There doesn't need to be a main string there.
 

PeterPanda

Semi-Pro
I think you might be confusing the "tie off" for the cross with "starting hole" for the crosses. You tie off (starting knot) to the main in the 7th hole. Then start weaving crosses from the 8th hole. There doesn't need to be a main string there.
I think i might be confusing which ones are the 8th hole on the top im counting the mains from left to right.
 
I think i might be confusing which ones are the 8th hole on the top im counting the mains from left to right.
Ok now I see the problem....start at center and count out. 8th hole to right of center and 8th to left of center are main "skips". It should make a little more sense to you hopefully. I would put a pic up for you but I am on my phone typing this.
 

PeterPanda

Semi-Pro
Ok now I see the problem....start at center and count out. 8th hole to right of center and 8th to left of center are main "skips". It should make a little more sense to you hopefully. I would put a pic up for you but I am on my phone typing this.
That's okay i skipped um. I had another one other of the same junior racquets and saw what you meant. I'm now on to the crosses:).
 

PeterPanda

Semi-Pro
Okay, i've done it twice and i've run out of string twice. Now im looking to get someone in person to help figure this out. Both times im only going to finish with two knots. The first time i had both the same length put them through the racquet and went through them skipped the holes that were suggested. And used the one string on the left do the first weave and put it through the whole where i would know it. And used the other string to do the weave. What am i doing wrong?
 
Okay, i've done it twice and i've run out of string twice. Now im looking to get someone in person to help figure this out. Both times im only going to finish with two knots. The first time i had both the same length put them through the racquet and went through them skipped the holes that were suggested. And used the one string on the left do the first weave and put it through the whole where i would know it. And used the other string to do the weave. What am i doing wrong?
Which racquet are you trying to string? The Prince as one-piece or your Babolat as 2 piece? You have me confused. If you are finishing with only 2 knots then you must be stringing one-piece. If you are doing a one-piece then you don't want both sides the same length when you start. You need a "short side" (usually about 10') and a long side (the rest of the string). String the mains and tie off the "short side" when done. The take the remaining length from the "long side" and weave the crosses with that. If you are starting with 40' of string you will not run out.
I suggest doing a quick you-tube search for "stringing one-piece" or "stringing two-piece". You'll find countless videos that can help you.
 

PeterPanda

Semi-Pro
Which racquet are you trying to string? The Prince as one-piece or your Babolat as 2 piece? You have me confused. If you are finishing with only 2 knots then you must be stringing one-piece. If you are doing a one-piece then you don't want both sides the same length when you start. You need a "short side" (usually about 10') and a long side (the rest of the string). String the mains and tie off the "short side" when done. The take the remaining length from the "long side" and weave the crosses with that. If you are starting with 40' of string you will not run out.
I suggest doing a quick you-tube search for "stringing one-piece" or "stringing two-piece". You'll find countless videos that can help you.
Stringing the prince, i was trying to do a two piece but it looks like im doing one piece on the racquet by accident.
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
Okay, i've done it twice and i've run out of string twice. Now im looking to get someone in person to help figure this out. Both times im only going to finish with two knots. The first time i had both the same length put them through the racquet and went through them skipped the holes that were suggested. And used the one string on the left do the first weave and put it through the whole where i would know it. And used the other string to do the weave. What am i doing wrong?
If I understand you right you had 1 piece of string and the length of string on both sides were the same. For one piece that is not correct. When stringing one piece the short side should be for one side mains only and the long side should be for the other mains and all the crosses.

Using 1 set of string I use 5 racket lengths for the short side and the rest for the long side. This will give you a good idea of how much string you need for each side with plenty to spare.
 

PeterPanda

Semi-Pro
If I understand you right you had 1 piece of string and the length of string on both sides were the same. For one piece that is not correct. When stringing one piece the short side should be for one side mains only and the long side should be for the other mains and all the crosses.

Using 1 set of string I use 5 racket lengths for the short side and the rest for the long side. This will give you a good idea of how much string you need for each side with plenty to spare.
Yep you got it right that's how i did it. next time i'll use your tip about the 5 racket lengths. For a two piece do i have to cut the string prior to stringing.
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
Yes cut the string so one side is about 1' longer than the other and use the long string for the mains.
 

Jonahan

Rookie
Q: How do I get to Carnegie Hall?
A: Practice, my boy, practice!
I wanted to buy a house down the street form Carnegie Hall so when people asked me how to get to my house, I could say, "Practice, my boy, practice. Then take a left and go three blocks." (Some comedian, whom I can't currently remember.)
 

PeterPanda

Semi-Pro
I did two piece but because i'm using 15L strings it's very hard to tie a parnell know i still haven't tied the two knots yet.
 

Jonahan

Rookie
I did two piece but because i'm using 15L strings it's very hard to tie a parnell know i still haven't tied the two knots yet.
You shouldn't have any trouble tying a Parnell knot w/ 15L strings. But, the Wilson Pro knot is slightly easier and holds just as well, so you might try it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGQW_ONBPPo

So do you mean that you've tied off the mains, but not the crosses? Did you use a starting clamp or a starting knot to start your crosses? I'm assuming you used a clamp, since if you used a starting knot you'd only have your last knot left.

Unless you've left the racquet for days with only the mains strung and not tied off?
 
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