First time on clay - low level pusher and junk baller observations

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Haven't actually been bumped down to 3.0 since I haven't played USTA in several years, but that's probably where I am based on wins and losses against others and the long, slow decline of age. I've been hoping to play on clay for some time, but I'm not willing to pay through the nose to do it, since hard courts are free, widely available close to my home and travel destinations, and clay court tend to be further away. I happened to be at a resort event and finally got my first opportunity this week. Observations:

Clay is much easier on my hips, back, and legs. Much less pain during and after play. Quicker recovery.

I'm a better player on clay. I adapted quickly and well to most of the differences in movement, and the funny bounces are more amenable to my short pushing strokes; whereas, players with longer more classic strokes were hitting more sitters and UEs. The slowness of the ball more than compensated for increased difficulty in moving around the court. Since I'm tall and tend to have a high strike zone anyway, higher bounces on incoming top spin shots worked to my advantage. The slow court also provided me the opportunity to run around my backhand and hit more forehand shots. Since I place my (flat to slice) forehand much better than my (flat to slice) backhand, I was hitting much more winners than usual. My opponents, who have slowed with age more than I have were struggling to get moving toward most of my shots and were troubled by my usual efforts to move opponents left and right, front and back.

Slices and drop shots were wonderfully effective. Lots of winners, and lots of set ups where my opponents were so far out of position that the next shot was a winner. At the same time, I gave up more winners than I usually do on drop shots and short balls that bounced twice before I could get them. Some of these were mental mistakes, expecting bounces to be like hard court and simply not moving forward enough to get them - probably my biggest area for improvement. My lob was horrible. Not sure if it was the wind or the bounce, but I was sending lots long and struggling to find the right range. Made a conscious effort to use more passing shots and avoid the lob.

My spinny, slicey serves were much more effective than the flat heat. And forget S&V and most other approaches to the net. Without a near perfect approach shot, opponents just have too much time for lobs or passing shots, and my first couple steps are much slower on clay. Clay doesn't slow down balls until they bounce. Hitting the lines produces bounces that are much harder to return.

I doubt I'll ever play on clay often enough to develop new tools, but I do think I can be more intentional and improve a lot from choosing which tools to use most often and which to use less.
 
I totally agree with you about how much easier on the body clay is... it's kind of sublime to be honest... I only play on clay about 10x/year (as opposed to nearly 200+ sessons on hard court/year), but every single time is a joy.

As for S&V, try a deep driving slice approach that will skip and stay low instead of checking and sitting up...

My experience has topspin shots kicking much higher (and losing pace after the bounce)... however, sharp angled shots with lots of TS on them seem to be more effective than regular old deep rally balls because with the short angles, there is even MORE TS, and the effect of my lefty kick on my TS makes the ball bounce in a different direction than opponents are used to - so while it sits up higher, it also kicks left/right a bit more... so... it's probably a wash for TS for me and my strokes.

My kick serve on clay is a lovely thing... and my flat serve will hit and skip, leaving a 12 inch or longer ball mark on the clay - which makes it stay even lower after the bounce - so while it loses pace, it's still a beast because it stays so low...

I love clay... if I ever hit the lottery, I'll have a clay court on my own property! Ha!
 
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Playing on clay is awesome. My old club was clay and I still miss sliding around like Nadal and watching players get frustrated when my slice BH would change direction on them.

For me the biggest adjustment was that I had to be a little more patient and use more spin. A hard flat shot on clay loses some pace on the bounce and sits up more than on HC. On the other hand it seems to accentuate any spin you impart to the ball. Top spin shot jump up and off the court and sliced shots just seem to stay lower than on HC (if you hit it right. If you just chop the ball it tends to just sit up and wait to get smacked)

Finally I love how you can play ina bit of rain and damp which is impossible on
HC
 
Play 80% of my tennis on clay.

Biggest place Clay helps my game is on returns. Hard flat first serves are slowed enough for me to get a good paced return back and second serves can set me up for a DTL FH winner.

Otherwise doubles is pretty similar since I work on the principle, if the ball touches the ground more than once a rally, I’m doing it wrong :laughing:
 
Play 80% of my tennis on clay.

Biggest place Clay helps my game is on returns. Hard flat first serves are slowed enough for me to get a good paced return back and second serves can set me up for a DTL FH winner.

Otherwise doubles is pretty similar since I work on the principle, if the ball touches the ground more than once a rally, I’m doing it wrong :laughing:
Ha ha. Totally. In doubles clay really rewards the player who can hit the twist or slice serve out wide.
 
Ha ha. Totally. In doubles clay really rewards the player who can hit the twist or slice serve out wide.

Almost all my clay aces come from slice serves down the T to ad. Everyone knows the out wide trick so they line up too far wide. If I hit the actual tape, bonus.
 
Clay is much easier on my hips, back, and legs. Much less pain during and after play. Quicker recovery.

Amen brudda..... But if you want truly sublime.........real grass....... just dont let the ball bounce. at. all.
 
In Australia, court surfaces are highly regionalised. Depending on where you are the primary surface tends to be either clay, grass or carpet (with a decent number of hardcourts everywhere). Personally I grew up on grass and hate clay with a passion.

Bear in mind that 'clay' means different things around the world. Australian clay is ant bed or en tout cas - an American familiar with Har-Tru would find it very foreign, as would a European used to Italian clay. It is much faster, and slipperier underfoot.
 
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