Fitness fears grow over Roger Federer’s participation in French Open

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JRAJ1988

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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/may/11/fitness-fears-roger-federer-french-open-italian-open

“I was expecting to lose in straight sets,” Federer said after a typically measured early-round performance to turn back the precocious challenge of the German teenager Alexander Zverev, 6-3, 7-5.

In 18 years on the Tour, Federer has rarely been troubled by physical problems but he has already pulled out of two tournaments since the Australian Open to protect a back problem and a knee that required the first surgery of his career.

Ask what he thought of Federer’s doubts about finishing let alone winning the tournament, Murray said: “Maybe he doesn’t feel his best right now but he knows himself and his body better than any of us, so I take his word for it.”

Federer said: “I only decided after the warm-up that I was going to play. I don’t know how I’m going to feel tomorrow [against Dominic Thiem]. I hope I can play. But I’m literally going practice to practice. Every 15 minutes, I speak to Ivan [Ljubicic] or Severin [Luthi] and say: ‘What else can we do?’

Djokovic, not entirely convincing in subduing Stéphane Robert 7-5, 7-5, said of the Federer conundrum: “He’s still in the tournament.”

And his back problem? Djokovic paused, and said: “The spine is a core, a foundation of every human’s body, and especially athletes. But also it’s vulnerable, especially if you are playing many matches, training, and, having to be adapting to different conditions.

“That’s why we have big teams of people, physiotherapists that are experts in their field. We spend a lot of time on the tables, trust me, before training, before the match, after the match, a lot of time, a lot of time stretching, doing different kinds of exercises for strengthening, prevention.

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Meles

Bionic Poster
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/may/11/fitness-fears-roger-federer-french-open-italian-open

“I was expecting to lose in straight sets,” Federer said after a typically measured early-round performance to turn back the precocious challenge of the German teenager Alexander Zverev, 6-3, 7-5.

In 18 years on the Tour, Federer has rarely been troubled by physical problems but he has already pulled out of two tournaments since the Australian Open to protect a back problem and a knee that required the first surgery of his career.

Ask what he thought of Federer’s doubts about finishing let alone winning the tournament, Murray said: “Maybe he doesn’t feel his best right now but he knows himself and his body better than any of us, so I take his word for it.”

Federer said: “I only decided after the warm-up that I was going to play. I don’t know how I’m going to feel tomorrow [against Dominic Thiem]. I hope I can play. But I’m literally going practice to practice. Every 15 minutes, I speak to Ivan [Ljubicic] or Severin [Luthi] and say: ‘What else can we do?’

Djokovic, not entirely convincing in subduing Stéphane Robert 7-5, 7-5, said of the Federer conundrum: “He’s still in the tournament.”

And his back problem? Djokovic paused, and said: “The spine is a core, a foundation of every human’s body, and especially athletes. But also it’s vulnerable, especially if you are playing many matches, training, and, having to be adapting to different conditions.

“That’s why we have big teams of people, physiotherapists that are experts in their field. We spend a lot of time on the tables, trust me, before training, before the match, after the match, a lot of time, a lot of time stretching, doing different kinds of exercises for strengthening, prevention.

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A clever ruse by Grandpa to get the kiddies out on the court as early as possible. 1 down, 1 to go.;)
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/may/11/fitness-fears-roger-federer-french-open-italian-open

I was expecting to lose in straight sets,” Federer said after a typically measured early-round performance to turn back the precocious challenge of the German teenager Alexander Zverev, 6-3, 7-5.

In 18 years on the Tour, Federer has rarely been troubled by physical problems but he has already pulled out of two tournaments since the Australian Open to protect a back problem and a knee that required the first surgery of his career.

Ask what he thought of Federer’s doubts about finishing let alone winning the tournament, Murray said: “Maybe he doesn’t feel his best right now but he knows himself and his body better than any of us, so I take his word for it.”

Federer said: “I only decided after the warm-up that I was going to play. I don’t know how I’m going to feel tomorrow [against Dominic Thiem]. I hope I can play. But I’m literally going practice to practice. Every 15 minutes, I speak to Ivan [Ljubicic] or Severin [Luthi] and say: ‘What else can we do?’

Djokovic, not entirely convincing in subduing Stéphane Robert 7-5, 7-5, said of the Federer conundrum: “He’s still in the tournament.”

And his back problem? Djokovic paused, and said: “The spine is a core, a foundation of every human’s body, and especially athletes. But also it’s vulnerable, especially if you are playing many matches, training, and, having to be adapting to different conditions.

“That’s why we have big teams of people, physiotherapists that are experts in their field. We spend a lot of time on the tables, trust me, before training, before the match, after the match, a lot of time, a lot of time stretching, doing different kinds of exercises for strengthening, prevention.

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Ouch! I bet Zverev winced a bit after reading that! ;)
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
That was not exactly tactful, was it...

Tactful schmactful. It's pathetic that a 35 year old supposed injured player who has basically been off the tour for a couple of months is stepping onto his worst surface and is beating up on the supposed next big thing in the younger generation. Shame on these youngsters.

Federer didn't say anything wrong in my opinion.
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
I'm sure he didn't mean it that way but sometimes he just can't help himself, can he? ;)

I bet he would have liked to have another go in his current condition at your hero Murray. Would have been nice target practice. ;)
 

Nonsense

Hall of Fame
He's really had a terrible season health wise.

Flu in brisbane, knee in AO, Stomach issue in Miami and now back issue in Madrid and Rome.
 

scotus

G.O.A.T.
Tactful schmactful. It's pathetic that a 35 year old supposed injured player who has basically been off the tour for a couple of months is stepping onto his worst surface and is beating up on the supposed next big thing in the younger generation. Shame on these youngsters.

Federer didn't say anything wrong in my opinion.

Right you are.

The man is 35 years old and winner of 17 titles. He has earned the right to say whatever he wants (within reason, of course).
 

Chicharito

Hall of Fame
Federer maybe isn't the smartest in things like this. Can he really bring himself to skip the French?

In his interview yesterday he was talking about how he was asking the doctors if he could come back even sooner than recommended from the knee surgery.
 

jga111

Hall of Fame
Federer maybe isn't the smartest in things like this. Can he really bring himself to skip the French?

In his interview yesterday he was talking about how he was asking the doctors if he could come back even sooner than recommended from the knee surgery.

You cannot blame him, time is running out. Injured or not injured his force is diminishing purely because of age. He knows it which is why he wants to play now. Had he had this injury in his 20s I'm sure he wouldn't have rushed back.

A bit like marriage really - meet a woman in her late 30s and then she wants the full monty with you after a few dates; in her 20s..no chance
 

Raindogs

Hall of Fame
It's probably nothing that a few well placed rolls of kinesio tape can't fix.
Remember that pathetic fad?
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DUROC

Professional
At this pace RF will be lucky to see 3rd round in Paris..........im in Rome and seeing him live he is moving like crap.
 
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JRAJ1988

Guest
I looked on the match thread vs Thiem and the posters said he was moving pretty gingerly.

I hope he get's better asap!
 
Want him to play so he falls in Djoko half and goes out early. With Murray, Stan and Rafa in the other half. Murray back to no2 now which is good news for Djoko and his fans!
 
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OhYes

Guest
Who cares about Roger anymore ? Like he is some liability for winning trophies in 2016. :rolleyes:
We should get used to watch tennis without him.
 
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Tiki-Taka

Guest
I feared this already when he mentioned that injury right after the Australian Open. I hope he will be competitive at Wimbledon, it's always nice seeing him there in final matches.
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
Who cares about Roger anymore ? Like he is some liability for winning trophies in 2016. :rolleyes:
We should get used to watch tennis without him.

'Who Cares ?' LOL. Just The sponsors, media, tournament organizers, crowd and his zillion fan followers.

Did you see Muguruza press interview today ?

Muguruza to the press, wondering why people keep coming to press room: "...is there gonna be Federer now? "
 
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OhYes

Guest
'Who Cares ?' LOL. Just The sponsors, media, tournament organizers, crowd and his zillion fan followers.

Did you see Muguruza press interview today ?

Muguruza to the press, wondering why people keep coming to press room: "...is there gonna be Federer now? "
Nobody would want to watch weakened Federer, not even you. Federer off the court is another story.
 

ultradr

Legend
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/may/11/fitness-fears-roger-federer-french-open-italian-open

“I was expecting to lose in straight sets,” Federer said after a typically measured early-round performance to turn back the precocious challenge of the German teenager Alexander Zverev, 6-3, 7-5.

In 18 years on the Tour, Federer has rarely been troubled by physical problems but he has already pulled out of two tournaments since the Australian Open to protect a back problem and a knee that required the first surgery of his career.

Ask what he thought of Federer’s doubts about finishing let alone winning the tournament, Murray said: “Maybe he doesn’t feel his best right now but he knows himself and his body better than any of us, so I take his word for it.”

Federer said: “I only decided after the warm-up that I was going to play. I don’t know how I’m going to feel tomorrow [against Dominic Thiem]. I hope I can play. But I’m literally going practice to practice. Every 15 minutes, I speak to Ivan [Ljubicic] or Severin [Luthi] and say: ‘What else can we do?’

Djokovic, not entirely convincing in subduing Stéphane Robert 7-5, 7-5, said of the Federer conundrum: “He’s still in the tournament.”

And his back problem? Djokovic paused, and said: “The spine is a core, a foundation of every human’s body, and especially athletes. But also it’s vulnerable, especially if you are playing many matches, training, and, having to be adapting to different conditions.

“That’s why we have big teams of people, physiotherapists that are experts in their field. We spend a lot of time on the tables, trust me, before training, before the match, after the match, a lot of time, a lot of time stretching, doing different kinds of exercises for strengthening, prevention.

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Why does this have to be "fear"?
Maybe a concern for some fans but this is understandable and natural for a 34 year old who's been competing at the top for 12+ years.
 
It looks like he might have returned too soon from injury. I don't know why. Just to play a whole season on clay, where his chances are fairly remote at this stage of his career to begin with. I could see him wanting some match play before the grass season but he could have started his comeback at Roland Garros or just before, and worst case he probably plays the warm up for Wimbledon. It was never a big deal to miss the clay season or Roland Garros and certainly not worth rushing back for.
 

ultradr

Legend
If any top players out of competition for extended period it'll take significant time to regain a form. That's nature of world class form.

Murray, 2 month out with surgery. Took him 1 year to regain his form. Nadal, 7 month out, it's 1 and half year trying to regain a form. Agassi took 2-3 years after a wrist surgery.

I think what Federer is trying is not to lose too much of his form by playing matches occasionally in his down time.
He knows he's done otherwise at this stage of his career.
 

Tardigrade

Banned
If any top players out of competition for extended period it'll take significant time to regain a form. That's nature of world class form.

Murray, 2 month out with surgery. Took him 1 year to regain his form. Nadal, 7 month out, it's 1 and half year trying to regain a form. Agassi took 2-3 years after a wrist surgery.

I think what Federer is trying is not to lose too much of his form by playing matches occasionally in his down time.
He knows he's done otherwise at this stage of his career.

Only players I've seen come back strong straight away after a long layoff were Nadal in 2013 and Safin in 2004. Safin's first tournament after nearly a year out was the AO 04; he beat Roddick at #1 and Agassi at #3. Lol. Nadal won IW on his comeback and had a good year; Safin kind of faded after with injuries until the end of the season.
 

ultradr

Legend
Only players I've seen come back strong straight away after a long layoff were Nadal in 2013 and Safin in 2004. Safin's first tournament after nearly a year out was the AO 04; he beat Roddick at #1 and Agassi at #3. Lol. Nadal won IW on his comeback and had a good year; Safin kind of faded after with injuries until the end of the season.

people do not pay much attention to this kind of stuff but these are near miracles.
but for the case of nadal, he used to be ok after grinding at a few clay tournaments, not this time though.
 

Russeljones

Talk Tennis Guru
Great comment from Federer:
“I’m not going to go into specifics, honestly. I’m not in the mood for you guys to start debating about it because you don’t know, and I won’t tell you everything, anyway. But it’s definitely got something to do with the back.”
 
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