flexpoint pretige non C.A.P. grommet

[bleno567]

flexpoint prestige non C.A.P. grommet

hey, I have a flexpoint prestige midplus XL with the C.A.P. grommets on it. I do not like the extra weight these add or the dampened feel of them. I was wondering if there are any other grommets on the market that i could put on the flexpoint prestige that are not C.A.P. grommets and fit properly. I was thinking about trying the flexpoint radical grommet on it because, they both have the 18 by 20 string pattern, and the same beam thickness. I was also thinking of trying the non cap grommets that you could buy for the i.prestige mp XL on it. I was wondering if anyone else has had any luck installing non cap grommets on thier fxp prestiges.

 

[Deuce]

Your choices of replacement grommet strips are logical ones. Head has a long history of producing 18x20, 630 sq. cm. frames whose grommet strips are almost always interchangeable.

 

[BruceX]

what are grommets?

 

[snoflewis]

what are grommets?

grommets are the plastic pieces that goe through the holes of your frame to prevent the strings from coming in contact w/ the frame itself. it also includes the bumperguard and they're usually black...usually

as for the OP...it would definitely be worth a shot to try and put FP radical grommets into the FP prestige. however, be aware that FP prestige string holes are spaced a little differently than other prestige rackets...and im pretty sure its the same w/ the FP radical, so just be aware of that. as for the i.prestige XL grommets...why not try some i.radical ones?

 

[Deuce]

The Head LiquidMetal Radical bumpers on 630 sq. cm. frames are better than bumpers for previous Radical racquets, as the LM bumpers are one-piece and thus have a deeper groove for the strings.

snoflewis, some people are disputing your claim that the string holes on Flexpoint Prestiges are spaced differently than the string holes on all other Head Prestige frames. Personally, I find it odd and unlikely that the string holes would be different - but I've never compared directly, so I withhold telling anyone for certain what the situation is. As you say that you've not made a direct comparison yourself either, it would be wise of you not to state it as fact.

 

[snoflewis]

snoflewis, some people are disputing your claim that the string holes on Flexpoint Prestiges are spaced differently than the string holes on all other Head Prestige frames. Personally, I find it odd and unlikely that the string holes would be different - but I've never compared directly, so I withhold telling anyone for certain what the situation is. As you say that you've not made a direct comparison yourself either, it would be wise of you not to state it as fact.

yes, i haven't tried it, but TW posted some time back about this and stated that the holes were spaced differently

anyway, i've only seen one other member besides you (vsbabolat) disputing my statements. he hasnt tried himself either, so i dont know how much more value his post holds to mine, but his argument was that safin and monfils are using FP paintjobs w/ FP CAPs. although i have no reason to doubt this, i don't see how hard it would be for Head to cut out little dimples out of the CAPs to make it look more like a real FP prestige...since the holes and dimples are clearly fake.

 

[Deuce]

yes, i haven't tried it, but TW posted some time back about this and stated that the holes were spaced differently. and im pretty sure TW's statements hold some value.

This is the same TW who claim that Safin and Agassi use a Flexpoint Prestige and Radical respectively, right? Among other equipment claims which are questionable at best.

 

[bleno567]

well, I am still unsure about what grommet to try for my fxp prestige. As for the argument on spacing of the fxp strings, i have a an i.prestige and a fxp and have compared and they look completely identical to me. Safin and Monfis do not have that chunk cut out of thier prestige grommets. I saw safin play like 2 days ago, and he just has the side of his grommet painted with white paint so it looks like the area on the the fxp prestige, where the grommet is reduced.

 

[tennis4losers]

Because We wouldnt notice a painted grommet.

 

[snoflewis]

This is the same TW who claim that Safin and Agassi use a Flexpoint Prestige and Radical respectively, right? Among other equipment claims which are questionable at best.

yes...true...but what does that have anything do w/ whether or not some grommet set will fit in one racket and not the other? why would TW say a grommets will fit when it doesnt? we're not talking about some marketing scheme here.

 

[snoflewis]

well, I am still unsure about what grommet to try for my fxp prestige. As for the argument on spacing of the fxp strings, i have a an i.prestige and a fxp and have compared and they look completely identical to me. Safin and Monfis do not have that chunk cut out of thier prestige grommets. I saw safin play like 2 days ago, and he just has the side of his grommet painted with white paint so it looks like the area on the the fxp prestige, where the grommet is reduced.

well...i would try contacting Head or TW just to confirm, but i think the FP radical MP grommets should fit.

 

[bleno567]

wait, theres a contact line at head or TW where you can ask this?

Also i tried my old i.radical grommet on my fxp prestige, and it fits so the pattern spacing is definitely the same, but it is not really flush. The grommet hangs off the top of the racquet, not alot but enough to be bothersome. Also installation of i.rad grommet was one of most infuriating experiences of my life.

 

[snoflewis]

wait, theres a contact line at head or TW where you can ask this?

Also i tried my old i.radical grommet on my fxp prestige, and it fits so the pattern spacing is definitely the same, but it is not really flush. The grommet hangs off the top of the racquet, not alot but enough to be bothersome. Also installation of i.rad grommet was one of most infuriating experiences of my life.

well...my question is...if the string patterns are the same, shouldnt the grommets fit nicely?

 

[bleno567]

no the pattern was definitely not the problem, it seemed an awful lot like the holes on the fxp prestige are smaller than other head racquets ive strung. The small holes are what made it such a pain in the butt to put on.

but back to my question, is there a contact line at TW where i can call and ask this question, and actually get a response.

 

[snoflewis]

no the pattern was definitely not the problem, it seemed an awful lot like the holes on the fxp prestige are smaller than other head racquets ive strung. The small holes are what made it such a pain in the butt to put on.

but back to my question, is there a contact line at TW where i can call and ask this question, and actually get a response.

you can email them or call them....their info is on their site.

btw, i dont see how that answers my question....

also, it was posted by some members that FP radical tour grommet holes were really small too...so that might have carried over to the FP prestige

 

[Deuce]

I doubt that calling TW or Head is the answer. It's not like this is information that is included in everyone's training. And when people don't know the answer, the tendency is to pretend that they do know, and to simply guess, which wouldn't put you any further ahead than you are now.

There's also the fact that grommets often don't sit 'flush' before stringing - but when the tension is pulled, they become 'flush' and perfect.

As well, the string holes drilled in the frame are often the same size from model to model. The opening of the grommet holes are more likely to change (getting bigger or smaller) than are the actual string holes in the frame itself.

When TW supposedly claimed that the string holes have different spacing on the Flexpoint Prestige compared to earlier Prestiges, were they referring to the Mid or the Midplus?

Someone will eventually decide to invest the whopping $5 and do a difinitive, highly scientific 'test', and let everyone know...

 

[snoflewis]

When TW supposedly claimed that the string holes have different spacing on the Flexpoint Prestige compared to earlier Prestiges, were they referring to the Mid or the Midplus?

Someone will eventually decide to invest the whopping $5 and do a difinitive, highly scientific 'test', and let everyone know...

I believe it was for the midsize.

we'll just have to see how bleno567's experiment goes...

 

[bleno567]

well...my question is...if the string patterns are the same, shouldnt the grommets fit nicely?

the answer is that the pattern is the same because, the i.rad grommet fit the fxp prestige fine based upon the spacing. The reason why it was a pain was because of the small holes, but the spacing of the fxp and old prestige holes is the same.

 

[bleno567]

I am going to order i.prestige mp XL, lm rad mp, and fxp rad mp grommets today. When these come, I will try installing them on my fxp prestige and post back on how that went.

 

[vsbabolat]

Deuce, I just checked again with the demo of the Flexpoint Prestige 600 and laid it on top of my Prestige Classic 600. The spacing was IDENTICAL. They are interchangeable. Why somebody would want to the Prestige Classic 600 CAP to the Flexpoint Prestige CAP I don't know?
If people are interested in changing out the CAP grommets to traditional grommets in the Flexpoint Prestige midplus (630). The best choice that is readily available is the i.Prestige midplus (630) XL traditional non CAP grommets.

 

[snoflewis]

bleno567, keep us updated...

 

[snoflewis]

this pic was posted by PrestigeClassic in another thread...and it clearly shows that the side of the CAPs are painted, and on one side, the paint is scraped off.

http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=71588974

 

[bleno567]

good pics snoflewis, that definitely reinforces what i said about safins racquet

 

[bleno567]

yeah sorry guys, I completely forgot about this thread. I did actually get that non cap grommet to work on the fp prestige. The grommet fit the grommet whole spacing perfectly, but was mean for a racquet with a thicker beam so a little of it hung over the top. I actually did not like the feel of it, and have decided to go back to the cap grommets on it.