Fonseca's forehand is already at ATG level

[Boomski]

I know, I know, Fonseca hasn't achieved much yet but he probably will. His forehand, though, already has the quality of an ATG forehand especially on clay where he dominates with the brutal force of the shot.

I went through every match that Fonseca played last year and he excells in all aspects of the forehand: power, speed, angles, on the run etc. There's not a single forehand shot that he can't manage to hit. But like I said, his forehand is mostly suited to clay and hard court. On grass he won't generate the same results off his forehand from what I've seen but that can obviously change.

How good is Fonseca's forehand already?

Discuss.

 

[Kralingen]

Nahhhhh not just yet. He has potential to get there but it’s too unrefined at the moment.

 

[Boomski]

Nahhhhh not just yet. He has potential to get there but it’s too unrefined at the moment.

Unrefined can be nice... just raw instinct

 

[intrepidish]

It's obviously an amazing shot but you have to see how it holds up with real pressure and stress over time from other big time players many of whom will eventually target his game specifically when they perceive him as a serious threat as opposed to a rising star.

 

[Deleted member 821161]

Whoever trained him deserves a lifetime achievement award.

 

[Deleted member 821161]

Nahhhhh not just yet. He has potential to get there but it’s too unrefined at the moment.

With more refinement he has a shot at having a GOAT forehand.
That shot is different, man. The amount of times players try to reach for the ball and miss it by split seconds, or when it lands on their feet and they miss it. It's like that one Blake return of serve, but over and over again. And his backhand is Gulbis tier + with the possibility of achieving Djokovic/Nishikori tier. This is unprecedented in tennis history.

 

[Jonesy]

I know people talk about his forehand, but his backhand really impresses me. It looks like he is loading a one hander and he gets clean power.

 

[Lleytonstation]

I know people talk about his forehand, but his backhand really impresses me. It looks like he is loading a one hander and he gets clean power.

I noticed that and it was throwing me off. Like a omage to the one handers of the past lol.

 

[Juice4080]

The guy is hitting forehands for winners, from the back of the court, on clay! And he does it with regularity. It's absolutely insane

 

[The Guru]

I'm all aboard the Fonseca train. I think he is going to be the player I root for for the next however many years but I do think there's serious concerns about his stroke lengths off both wings. I think there's a very real chance he never achieves nearly the same heights off clay that he does on clay.

 

[TheSlicer]

I was gonna say no but he just anleashed another remote controled ballistic missile against cerundolo for a winner

 

[Gazelle]

If his forehand is ATG he should beat granny forehand Zverev.

 

[ChaelAZ]

Tough really. I chose Alcaraz because I think he is able to apply his stroke in more situations than Sinner, but Sinners probably has more consistent neutral ball weight. Needs to check stats on that though.

 

[Gerco]

I noticed that and it was throwing me off. Like a omage to the one handers of the past lol.

During an interview recently Joao said that when he was a junior he tried playing OHB during one week but it didn´t work, he got all sore and went back to 2HB.

 

[McGradey]

Love how he hits through it, it’s a real cruise missile with an ideal blend of spin and penetration. I think Sinner’s forehand is the most reliably damaging because it’s more compact, and Alcaraz’s is the most dynamic with how he mixes up spin pace and height, and most damaging given time on the ball, but Fonseca could surpass him on that last front.

 

[Krish0608]

It’s an insane shot already. Has the potential for Fed level versatility on that wing. Love his DTL. It’s a hammer

 

[sortof]

I know people talk about his forehand, but his backhand really impresses me. It looks like he is loading a one hander and he gets clean power.

On his backhand side the Fons can be vulnerable due to his insufficient footwork.

 

[Shaolin]

Fonz is awesome. I look forward to him winning slams.

That FH truly is a special weapon. The rest of his game is great too, reminds me of Carlos in a lot of ways.

 

[McGradey]

Tbh Gioco's forehand is still right up there when he's feeling it, especially in Melbourne. Just ask Alcaraz!

 

[DSH]

Whoever trained him deserves a lifetime achievement award.

It's either a forehand or a missile.

 

[DSH]

With more refinement he has a shot at having a GOAT forehand.
That shot is different, man. The amount of times players try to reach for the ball and miss it by split seconds, or when it lands on their feet and they miss it. It's like that one Blake return of serve, but over and over again. And his backhand is Gulbis tier + with the possibility of achieving Djokovic/Nishikori tier. This is unprecedented in tennis history.

Federer should coach him and exploit all his immense potential.

 

[Winner Sinner]

With the fundamental in question he doesn't yet have the variety of Alcaraz or the tolerance of Sinner, but in terms of generating speed and power with the forehand even on "dead" balls, he already has nothing to envy of both.

However, if the comparison is at the same age, I don't know if his current forehand can be considered at the level or even better than the 2022 Alcaraz, but it is certainly better than that of the 2020 Sinner.

 

[DSH]

With the fundamental in question he doesn't yet have the variety of Alcaraz or the tolerance of Sinner, but in terms of generating speed and power with the forehand even on "dead" balls, he already has nothing to envy of both.

However, if the comparison is at the same age, I don't know if his current forehand can be considered at the level or even better than the 2022 Alcaraz, but it is certainly better than that of the 2020 Sinner.

Fonseca is waiting for Sinner in Rome to give him a good shake-up.

 

[Winner Sinner]

Regarding the survey.
There are great truths, and then there are the numbers that never lie;

 

[Kralingen]

Regarding the survey.
There are great truths, and then there are the numbers that never lie;

Zverev and Musetti having two of the best FHs… hmm

 

[Dropshot777]

I know, I know, Fonseca hasn't achieved much yet but he probably will. His forehand, though, already has the quality of an ATG forehand especially on clay where he dominates with the brutal force of the shot.

I went through every match that Fonseca played last year and he excells in all aspects of the forehand: power, speed, angles, on the run etc. There's not a single forehand shot that he can't manage to hit. But like I said, his forehand is mostly suited to clay and hard court. On grass he won't generate the same results off his forehand from what I've seen but that can obviously change.

How good is Fonseca's forehand already?

Discuss.

I think he has one of the best forehands in the world right now along with people like Sinner, Alcaraz, Ruud, and maybe Rublev

 

[mike danny]

He needs work on the serve just like Carlitos

 

[Winner Sinner]

Fonseca is waiting for Sinner in Rome to give him a good shake-up.

Yes, my current emotional state now that you have reminded me that Sinner could face Fonseca in Rome is precisely this;

I'll get contaminated with a bit of Trafordemin, so that when I acquire super powers, maybe my fear will go away.

 

[Jonesy]

On his backhand side the Fons can be vulnerable due to his insufficient footwork.

No doubt, it is still one of his weaknesses as it gets shaky sometimes, yet is a better stroke than the majority of the tour.

 

[Vincent-C]

Joao can have the best FH, I think. Not there just yet. Kid's got *all kinds* of upside.

 

[oldmanyellingatcloud]

did anyone expect this guy to be so good so quickly? obviously there's the long road ahead, but Sinner, Alcaraz, and Fonseca as the new big 3 sounds pretty sweet. and if the other two don't watch out, Fonseca might end up with the best career out of all of them

*knock on wood* not trying to jinx the young man at all

 

[Wesling]

But movement is still lagging

 

[Vincent-C]

did anyone expect this guy to be so good so quickly? obviously there's the long road ahead, but Sinner, Alcaraz, and Fonseca as the new big 3 sounds pretty sweet. and if the other two don't watch out, Fonseca might end up with the best career out of all of them

*knock on wood* not trying to jinx the young man at all

whose Sinner

 

[Vincent-C]

But movement is still lagging

Yes, it is- but not dangerously so. He moves better than Courier and second-epoch Agassi..
Love to see some Joao / Alky stuff for reference and other value..

 

[oldmanyellingatcloud]

whose Sinner

 

[Vincent-C]

Love me some MJ..

 

[Shaolin]

Federer should coach him and exploit all his immense potential.

That would be pretty awesome actually.

Let the Fedseca era begin.

 

[buscemi]

Forehand looking pretty GOAT-y here:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1891228095874498819

 

[Vincent-C]

That would be pretty awesome actually.

Let the Fedseca era begin.

This is the kind of player Fred might actually be interested in.. advisory, not day-to-day.

 

[Vincent-C]

Yes, my current emotional state now that you have reminded me that Sinner could face Fonseca in Rome is precisely this;

I'll get contaminated with a bit of Trafordemin, so that when I acquire super powers, maybe my fear will go away.

Mmm.

 

[BenBen]

paging Andreev

 

[Vincent-C]

paging Andreev

Was that the year Andreev took The Great Man to five?

I think so.

 

[Vincent-C]

It cracks me up that there are uninformed people who try to put this Bre Lon dude in the same sentence
as Michael Jordan.. [ok, children..]

 

[Racquet_smash]

Regarding the survey.
There are great truths, and then there are the numbers that never lie;

Zverev and Musetti at 4 and 5 lmao

 

[Tallawah Tennis]

Forehand looking pretty GOAT-y here:............

Yah, man it's a beauty, and he's just starting. Sure, he displays great skills but his demeanour / composure is very impressive too. He was feeling a tad off kilter in the sf and came through. Wobbled in the 2nd set in the final, only to re-group. All else being equal, he will likely consolidate his skills and emotional intelligence. What a welcome addition to the tour.

 

[Vincent-C]

Yah, man it's a beauty, and he's just starting. Sure, he displays great skills but his demeanour / composure is very impressive too. He was feeling a tad off kilter in the sf and came through. Wobbled in the 2nd set in the final, only to re-group. All else being equal, he will likely consolidate his skills and emotional intelligence. What a welcome addition to the tour.

I agree on Fonseca's composure in particular. That's a rare quality so early in a career.. Michael Jordan had it too, to good effect..

 

[Boomski]

Was that the year Andreev took The Great Man to five?

I think so.

Four

 

[Dae18]

Regarding the survey.
There are great truths, and then there are the numbers that never lie;

Just say you’re in a relationship in Jannik Sinner and call it a day

 

[Winner Sinner]

Just say you’re in a relationship in Jannik Sinner and call it a day

Stop whining and act like a man.

 

[austintennis2005]

I know, I know, Fonseca hasn't achieved much yet but he probably will. His forehand, though, already has the quality of an ATG forehand especially on clay where he dominates with the brutal force of the shot.

I went through every match that Fonseca played last year and he excells in all aspects of the forehand: power, speed, angles, on the run etc. There's not a single forehand shot that he can't manage to hit. But like I said, his forehand is mostly suited to clay and hard court. On grass he won't generate the same results off his forehand from what I've seen but that can obviously change.

How good is Fonseca's forehand already?

Discuss.

Why won’t his FH generate results on grass?