For those that have hit with the K90, did the grip size feel bigger than normal?

[BreakPoint]

For those that have already hit with the new Wilson K-Factor KSix-One Tour (K90), did the grip size feel bigger than other Wilson racquets with leather grips? Some people have mentioned that they feel a bit bigger and some said that they weren't. I'm most interested in the 4 1/2 and 4 3/8 grip sizes. I use a 4 1/2 in a nCode 90 now (which already feels a bit bigger than the 4 1/2 on the PS 6.0 95 that I used before), so I was wondering if I should move down to a 4 3/8 when I order my K90's?

For those whose usual racquet is not a Wilson, please specify which brand and model, since a Wilson leather grip may feel large to you anyway even if it hasn't changed from the nCode 90 (e.g., Head, Yonex, etc.)

Thanks

 

[Tennis Man]

It sounds like Wilson switched to a different leather supplier. How does leather on a K90 grip compare to the n6.1 grips which are pretty thin?

 

[Lakoste]

You're going to buy a racquet without demoing?

 

[BreakPoint]

You're going to buy a racquet without demoing?

Yup, one of the few times ever. But since Wilson made this racquet pretty much to the exact specs that I asked them to a while back, I'm willing to take that chance. And I've also used its predecessors for quite some time and understand the differences between them and this new one. Also, with all the positive reviews from CC, michael chaho, @wright, and others, and also knowing exactly what I want makes me feel pretty comfortable that I'll like this racquet and that I'm not really taking a huge risk.

However, I wouldn't recommend buying a racquet without demoing to other people unless you know EXACTLY what you want and understand the differences (however subtle) between the racquet's direct predecessor and the new racquet.

 

[Noveson]

Yup, one of the few times ever. But since Wilson made this racquet pretty much to the exact specs that I asked them to a while back, I'm willing to take that chance. And I've also used its predecessors for quite some time and understand the differences between them and this new one. Also, with all the positive reviews from CC, michael chaho, @wright, and others, and also knowing exactly what I want makes me feel pretty comfortable that I'll like this racquet and that I'm not really taking a huge risk.

However, I wouldn't recommend buying a racquet without demoing to other people unless you know EXACTLY what you want and understand the differences (however subtle) between the racquet's direct predecessor and the new racquet.

Just sec I thought you got banned BP? Not saying I wanted you to, just that I thought I read a thread about you and NBM getting banned.

 

[BreakPoint]

Just sec I thought you got banned BP? Not saying I wanted you to, just that I thought I read a thread about you and NBM getting banned.

I was on a temporary ban for two weeks which was lifted today.

 

[jcstennis]

For those that have already hit with the new Wilson K-Factor KSix-One Tour (K90), did the grip size feel bigger than other Wilson racquets with leather grips? Some people have mentioned that they feel a bit bigger and some said that they weren't. I'm most interested in the 4 1/2 and 4 3/8 grip sizes. I use a 4 1/2 in a nCode 90 now (which already feels a bit bigger than the 4 1/2 on the PS 6.0 95 that I used to use), so I was wondering if I should move down to a 4 3/8 when I order my K90's?

For those whose usual racquet is not a Wilson, please specify which brand and model, since a Wilson leather grip may feel large to you anyway even if it hasn't changed from the K90 (e.g., Head, Yonex, etc.)

Thanks

Welcome back... i picked up the new Fed... the demo is a 4 3/8 w/ Wilson Leather. It felt dead on... as compared to the nCode. I'm sure the 4 1/2 would be the same.

 

[BreakPoint]

Welcome back... i picked up the new Fed... the demo is a 4 3/8 w/ Wilson Leather. It felt dead on... as compared to the nCode. I'm sure the 4 1/2 would be the same.

Thanks for the feedback, jcstennis!

Hmmm....I think someone else here mentioned a while ago that the 4 3/8 demo he got felt closer to 4 1/2. I wonder if his usual racquet is a Head or something which feels smaller than Wilsons, so going from a 4 3/8 Head to a 4 3/8 Wilson will feel like the Wilson grip is much bigger.

 

[Jet Rink]

I use a 4 1/2 in a nCode 90 now (which already feels a bit bigger than the 4 1/2 on the PS 6.0 95 that I used before), so I was wondering if I should move down to a 4 3/8 when I order my K90's?

BP - I can say that the ncode 4 1/2 that I was hitting with is significantly bigger than the ps 85 4 1/2 that I had. I've since gone back to 4 3/8 and everything seems better, more comfortable and with better results.

Where you been, man?

Jet

 

[BreakPoint]

BP - I can say that the ncode 4 1/2 that I was hitting with is significantly bigger than the ps 85 4 1/2 that I had. I've since gone back to 4 3/8 and everything seems better, more comfortable and with better results.

Where you been, man?

Jet

I was banned temporarily for two weeks which was just lifted today.

BTW, thanks for the feedback. Yeah, the 4 1/2 grip on my nCode 90 is definitely noticably bigger than the 4 1/2 grip on my PS 6.0 95. I was wondering if Wilson increased the grip size again with the K90, since they got rid of the 4 3/4 grip option they offered on the nCode90.

 

[anirut]

Think I should ask my customer in Melbourne to get me a K90 ... umm ...

Welcome back, BP!

 

[BreakPoint]

Thanks, anirut!

Glad to be back!

BTW, I hear the Asian versions of the K90 have already been available in Asia for some time already. In fact, I even saw one on the big auction site a couple of days ago.

 

[anirut]

Nah ... They won't be around this area of Asia sometime soon. I don't think so. And even if it was available, I wouldn't to buy and play a "2nd class" stick. I prefer the heft of the "original".

 

[Orly_Yarly]

Yup, one of the few times ever. But since Wilson made this racquet pretty much to the exact specs that I asked them to a while back, I'm willing to take that chance. And I've also used its predecessors for quite some time and understand the differences between them and this new one. Also, with all the positive reviews from CC, michael chaho, @wright, and others, and also knowing exactly what I want makes me feel pretty comfortable that I'll like this racquet and that I'm not really taking a huge risk.

However, I wouldn't recommend buying a racquet without demoing to other people unless you know EXACTLY what you want and understand the differences (however subtle) between the racquet's direct predecessor and the new racquet.

did you forget to tell them to make the right grip size for your hand?

LMFAO

 

[anirut]

I think BP also forgot to tell them to make a nice decent PJ. Or was this PJ something BP told them to come up with? (J/K of course!)

BTW, is the K90 available on sale at the AO event? If so will ask my contact to get me one.

 

[BreakPoint]

did you forget to tell them to make the right grip size for your hand?

LMFAO

Maybe they did. I just don't know if the right one for my hand is the 4 1/2 or the 4 3/8. LOL

 

[BreakPoint]

Nah ... They won't be around this area of Asia sometime soon. I don't think so. And even if it was available, I wouldn't to buy and play a "2nd class" stick. I prefer the heft of the "original".

Maybe it's just Hong Kong and Korea that has them already then?

 

[BreakPoint]

I think BP also forgot to tell them to make a nice decent PJ. Or was this PJ something BP told them to come up with? (J/K of course!)

I remember telling Wilson that I didn't care what the paintjob was and they can paint it any which way they like as long as it plays the way that I want it to.

Oops.....sorry guys..... LOL

 

[gofederer]

BTW, I hear the Asian versions of the K90 have already been available in Asia for some time already. In fact, I even saw one on the big auction site a couple of days ago.

Out of the 200 K90's shipped to Korea on 14 Dec 2006, only 50 were US version, the shopkeeper from whom I bought 2 US's said.

As for the grip size, like I said in another thread, the 4 1/4 was just right but the 4 3/8 was definitely bigger than normal. A plastic cover on the grip of a new stick seems to roughly equal a normal overgrip in thickness, so it won't be a bad idea that you measure the circumference of your favorite handle with an overgrip and let your vendor choose just that size regardless of the numbers on the grip.

 

[Zets147]

I remember telling Wilson that I didn't care what the paintjob was and they can paint it any which way they like as long as it plays the way that I want it to.

Oops.....sorry guys..... LOL

LMAO! I think I remember that.

 

[TennisandMusic]

I plan on grabbing one of these asap. Should I expect the tour version to sell out on day 1?

If I'm currently playing with a babolat 4 3/8 (storm) should I get the 4 3/8 K90 then? I'm wondering a bit.

 

[Tahsin1982]

Asian K 61 90

Hey guys,

One of the sponsored coaches in Singapore bought one of the Asian k factor 90 to string at the shop. The grip size on the racket was like 4 1/4 and it felt like 4 3/8 almost to me. Why? because there was a US version Pro Staff Tour 90 at the shop grip size 4 3/8 and it felt almost the same size as the 4 1/4 of the k 90.

Also the racket weighed strung around 348 grams with full poly. And teh paint job in person is really cool. It will be released in Singapore next week I think. Ill try to post some pics if any of my friends get it.

cheers

 

[BreakPoint]

From what I've gathered so far, it seems the 4 1/2 on the K90 is a hair bigger than the same 4 1/2 on the nCode 90, but the 4 3/8 is exactly the same size on both. Does anyone differ with that statement?

 

[federer_nadal]

I have not hit with it, but i am at the open and have held the Kfactor 90s that they are selling and the grip size does feel bigger.

 

[@wright]

Hey BP, I'm definitely getting the 3/8. First time I've EVER gone smaller than a 1/2, but I need to have it be a little smaller than a Wilson 1/2 to get the racquet head speed. Mine should be in any day now...

 

[Pro_Tour_630]

From what I've gathered so far, it seems the 4 1/2 on the K90 is a hair bigger than the same 4 1/2 on the nCode 90, but the 4 3/8 is exactly the same size on both. Does anyone differ with that statement?

I am getting 1/4 you should get the 3/8

 

[BreakPoint]

Hey BP, I'm definitely getting the 3/8. First time I've EVER gone smaller than a 1/2, but I need to have it be a little smaller than a Wilson 1/2 to get the racquet head speed. Mine should be in any day now...

Thanks for the feedback, @wright!

BTW, have you always used a Wilson leather grip 4 1/2 or a different brand's 4 1/2 before? If so, which brand and did you use a leather grip (which can feel bigger than a synthetic grip just by itself since it's harder and compresses less).

 

[BreakPoint]

I have not hit with it, but i am at the open and have held the Kfactor 90s that they are selling and the grip size does feel bigger.

Thanks for the feedback, F_N.

Which grip size(s) of the K90 did you hold at the AO?

 

[BreakPoint]

I am getting 1/4 you should get the 3/8

Thanks, MC!

BTW, could you please refresh my memory as to what grip size was on the demo of the K90 that you played with last month?

 

[Pro_Tour_630]

it was 3/8, I usually use overgrip, so this K90 is more round than I am used to, remember I am a PT630 junki who likes very thin flat rectangle grips. I will build up the 1/4 k90 on the top and bottom flat parts to make it more rectangle then add overgrip,

 

[BreakPoint]

Thanks, MC!

So it sounds like you're getting the 4 1/4 and then building it up to feel closer to a Head 4 3/8? Is 4 3/8 your usual grip size on Head racquets?

 

[Pro_Tour_630]

yes 3/8 is my usual with Head PT, but I have been getting into cutomizing (sanding/shaping/leading/corking/taping/injecting silicone etc...) my grip lately so from now on it is 1/4 then build up to 1/3

For me the bigger the grip the more uncomfortable my serves gets especially seconds but my groundies feel better especially FH, the smaller the grip the more comfortable my serve get but my groundies suffer a bit, it has to be just right.

One thing for sure is that you have to be as consistent as possible with this, ask richard parnell he is heavily into customizing grips. It is like wearing shoes. Some wear two socks on both feet, some wear only double on one foot, or they order 1/2 size different on one shoe due to medical issues, orthotics on one or both etc....

 

[Ultra2HolyGrail]

Hmm. I am starting to think 4 3/8 too. I also noticed alot of wilson and other makes that 4 1/2 just seems bigger and quality control is pretty bad imo when every grip feels different. I say 4 3/8 and if it's to small theirs always extra overgrips. Important for it to feel perfect for you. 4 1/2 to much a gamble buying over the internet.

 

[@wright]

BP - haven't had a Wilson as my main racquet in quite awhile, but I've played 4 1/2's as long as I can remember. My most recent racquet is Estusa Power Beam Pro's in 4 1/2 with a Volkl leather grip replacing the Super Soft grip. The 4 3/8 K90 with a wilson pro overgrip on top should be almost exactly the same as the PBP with leather grip + overgrip, in my estimation. If I were you, I'd go with the 3/8, to be just like Fed!

 

[BreakPoint]

Thanks, @wright!

I am leaning towards getting the 4 3/8 at the moment. But not to be like Fed. That would be almost like getting size 11 shoes even though your feet are size 13, just to "be like Fed", wouldn't it? LOL

 

[tennis_hand]

Thanks, @wright!

I am leaning towards getting the 4 3/8 at the moment. But not to be like Fed. That would be almost like getting size 11 shoes even though your feet are size 13, just to "be like Fed", wouldn't it? LOL

ur feet are inside the shoes. your hand is outside the handle.

 

[La Bomba]

Hey Breakpoint, whilst I was at the Australian Open, I picked up a K Tour 90 in 4 1/2......the 4 1/2 felt the same as the ncode version, but I am not very happy because my 2nd hand does not fit on the handle. Wilson what are you doing, bring back the long handle........now!!!!!!!! please

 

[BreakPoint]

ur feet are inside the shoes. your hand is outside the handle.

Yeah, but if it doesn't fit then it doesn't fit, right? No matter what it is. Why would anyone get something that fits someone else but doesn't fit them just to be like someone else? If Federer wore size M shirts, would you also buy only size M shirts even though they are too small for you and you really need to wear size XL shirts?

 

[BreakPoint]

Hey Breakpoint, whilst I was at the Australian Open, I picked up a K Tour 90 in 4 1/2......the 4 1/2 felt the same as the ncode version, but I am not very happy because my 2nd hand does not fit on the handle. Wilson what are you doing, bring back the long handle........now!!!!!!!! please

Thanks for the feedback, La Bomba!

Hmmm....from CC's pics, it looked like the K90's grip is a bit longer than that on the PS 6.0 so I'm a bit surprised that your hands don't fit on it if they fit on the PS 6.0.

 

[prostaff18]

I have always used a 4 1/2 Wilson grip and when I picked up the 4 3/8 it felt like what I was accustomed to in my 4 1/2. Also am I the only one that feels like the PS Tour's grip was a bit big too. But how did you guys like the new K90? I loved it. It really felt good, but unlike everyone else I didn’t feel like it swung slower. But I also strung my nsix-one tours with poly and the demo had syn. gut so that might account for the difference in swing speeds.

 

[k-y]

Played w/ the K90 for 2 hours today in a 4 1/2. I usually use a built up 4 3/4 + 2 1/8 sleeves so of course it felt small but I might actually be able to play w/ the smaller grip size. Didn't notice if it was larger than usual.

 

[La Bomba]

Thanks for the feedback, La Bomba!

Hmmm....from CC's pics, it looked like the K90's grip is a bit longer than that on the PS 6.0 so I'm a bit surprised that your hands don't fit on it if they fit on the PS 6.0.

No they dont fit on the PS 6.0s either! thats why I'm selling it lol.

 

[BreakPoint]

No they dont fit on the PS 6.0s either! thats why I'm selling it lol.

Maybe instead of selling it you could consider switching to a one-handed backhand?

BTW, the K90 is Federer's real racquet which he had a hand in designing so you would expect it to be designed for 1HBH's, right?

 

[@wright]

It would be much easier to build up than shave down if the 3/8 was too small.

 

[armand]

I have the 5/8th grip size. Definitely feels smaller.

It feels smaller than my 85 which is a 1/2! It's a synthetic grip but still!

 

[Mr. Sean]

Yes the leather around the grip seems thicker but I demoed a 4 and 3/8 and it definately felt like a 4.5. I would get one size smaller.

 

[darkblue]

For those that have already hit with the new Wilson K-Factor KSix-One Tour (K90), did the grip size feel bigger than other Wilson racquets with leather grips? Some people have mentioned that they feel a bit bigger and some said that they weren't. I'm most interested in the 4 1/2 and 4 3/8 grip sizes. I use a 4 1/2 in a nCode 90 now (which already feels a bit bigger than the 4 1/2 on the PS 6.0 95 that I used before), so I was wondering if I should move down to a 4 3/8 when I order my K90's?

For those whose usual racquet is not a Wilson, please specify which brand and model, since a Wilson leather grip may feel large to you anyway even if it hasn't changed from the nCode 90 (e.g., Head, Yonex, etc.)

Thanks

Yes, it is bigger - by just a bit less than 1/16 in. (on 4 1/2)

 

[Glorious]

This is really beginning to shake my confidence in the 4 1/2 grip size. The 4 1/2 is my normal grip size (as measured) and I'm not sure I'm confident enough to go down to 4 3/8. Does the 4 1/2 really feel bigger? I'm not sure which one to get ;/.