For which player would a Triple Career Grand Slam be most 'accurate'?

for whom triple career slam??? ??? ???

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By accurate, I mean reflective of their top levels, longevity, whatever you decide, across schlems. The options are:
  1. Djokovic needs 1 more RG to do it (so he probably will anyway).
    1. He has lost 5 RG finals, all to Nadal except 1 to Stan where Djoker beat Nadal en route in 2015.
    2. He also lost 2 'nearly' SFs, including 2011, where he would've been favourite in the final vs Rafa but faced a GOATing Fed, and 2013, where he was a brain fart away from probably going up 5-3 in the final set of the SF vs Rafa

  2. Nadal needs 1 more Wimbledon and 1 more AO to do it.
    1. He has lost 3 Wimbledon finals, 2 against peak Federer from 06-07 (07 being possibly the highest level slam final ever) and 1 against Peak Nole in 2011. He also lost the 18 SF in a close match indoors.
    2. He has lost 4 AO finals, including 2012 where he was a brain fart away from probably going up 5-2 in the final set vs Nole, and 2014 with the injury in the final. He also blew a final set lead in 17.

  3. Federer needed 2 more RGs to do it.
    1. He lost 4 RG finals, to supersonic claydal from 06-08 and again in 2011. 07 and 08 are considered kinda peak RG Nadal as far as I can tell.
    2. He also lost semifinals against Nadal and Djokovic in 2005, 2012 and 2019. He never got as close as Djoker to beating Rafa at RG, but this is partly because he never faced 2015dal or Footdal, and in retrospect one might argue his level in the 07 final (for example) would have fared better against an older Nadal, such as 2012-14.

  4. Agassi needed 2 more Wimbledons and 2 more RGs to do it.
    1. Why is he here? He was born a few years too early - his baseline game style on grass would have served him super well in the late 00s onwards, but like Djokodal would have done, he struggled in the superfast grass era of the mid 90s.
    2. He went down to multiple-RG-winning ATGs in epics (lost in 5 sets to 3-time-champ Wilander in 88 and to 2-time-champ Courier in 5 sets in 91) and fell short against RG champs like Muster

  5. Laver needed 1 more US Open and 1 more RG to do it
    1. He literally missed 5 years of tennis and won a CYGS the year before this hiatus AND the year after it. C'mon guys. It's Laver.
 
As someone who has no experience of watching Laver, it's pretty clearly Djokovic. He's got the insane consistency and being the toughest challenge for Nadal to grant him those 3 RG over Federer.

I do think the double and triple career Slams for players of the Big 3 caliber in the homogenization era are overrated by some. Like citing that this had never been done, without the context that excelling on both fast and slow surfaces in the past was like a miracle because the surfaces played so differently. The fact that each of the Big 3 got at least 5 finals at all 4 majors should be telling. What was the record before them? 2?
 
While Djokovic is the closest to getting it, I don't really think the odds are in his favor now. It took a herculean effort to win in 2021.
 
Djokovic followed by Laver.

100% confident that Djokovic will get the triple career/triple surface slam this year since he will be match fit and prepared unlike last year due to the dumb vaccine mandates.
 
Andre has the singular “real” CGS in history as he is the only player in tennis history to actually win on VARIED and non-homogenized surfaces. The Big 3 haven’t had to change their games once in their entire career, they play the same push push baseline baseline crap everywhere. Agassi changed his game 10 times per season…

Additionally he lost to a peak PETE twice at Wimbledon (93/99) and his wins over Rafter and Becker, real serve-volleyers, at Wimbledon is legitimately better than any of Djokovic’s… he never gets anywhere near the credit he deserves for winning in conditions essentially created in a lab to favor his opponents and disadvantage him.

RG he was running away with the final vs a Peak Courier when the rain interrupted what would be his masterpiece and he additionally should’ve won 88 against anyone but an incredible Wilander. But yeah I’m sure he couldn’t have beaten Murray or Tsitsipas… ROFLMAO.

Agassi
Laver

the rest
 
I'll take Agassi's just general career slam from the 1990's. over Nadal/Nole/Federer Homogenized high bouncing "Cheat Code" career slams (Double Career cheat code slam in case of Nadal/Nole since we know neither guy would have won all 4 in the 1990's/early 2000's. ) or Laver's. 2 surface career/calendar slams.

to be a baseliner and win Wimbledon in the 90's against that stacked field under those conditions with that racket technology , is the equivalent of winning half a dozen slams or more today. Hell maybe 10 slams today. Winning slams today is 10x easier than being a baseliner and winning slams in the 1990's under those "One week fast, the next week snail slow" conditions. Laver never had to deal with hardcourt slams, And the Big 3 get medium/slower/higher bouncing surfaces for 20 years where the ball just sits in their strike zones all day.

I don't see anyone doing what Agassi did particularly. (All 4 slams and Olympic Gold, YEC). Fed has a decent to good shot but he would also have to play more aggressive.. And with that comes chances of losing muchhh muchhh higher as then you have to play a more high risk game leaving you prone to upsets and he wouldn't get the zip on his shots like he does with today's racket technology/strings and he is just not a clean hitter like Andre.

I wouldn't be surprised if you start seeing 6-10 players within the next 20 years win all 4 slams. Its basically the same game just on a different colored surface now. Heck Wawrinka could have done it LOL. If he just started his peak sooner and wasn't such a late bloomer.
 
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I don’t understand the premise of the OP since no one has done it. What does it mean to be more accurate when no one has won a Triple Career Slam? If Nadal or more likely Djokovic do it, it would be a legitimate accomplishment that no one else came close to achieving.
 
Djoker - as he has shown unreal consistency over the years, however I agree with @Hitman that the chances of him winning a 3rd RG title are currently not in his favour.

Djoker has lost 4 RG finals (2012, 2014, 2020 vs Nadal, 2015 vs Wawrinka)
 
jl809 said:
Wait are you saying he wasn’t match fit at RG in 22?
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I mean a guy winning a master 1000 before slam isn’t considered match fit then really would have to think what match fit is, winning Ao before coming Rg only counts for match fit it seems
 
Hitman said:
While Djokovic is the closest to getting it, I don't really think the odds are in his favor now. It took a herculean effort to win in 2021.
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Depends on his AO.

If he wins the AO in thumping fashion and assuming Rafa is in bad form at FO then I like Novak's chances, he has a good chance to win. Even last year had Novak taken that match to the 5th set vs Rafa then we never know, might have won somehow and then maybe whooped Ruud and Zverev? The chances aren't bad even this year, maybe 23 is the last year when he still has a shot...
 
Nadal_King said:
I mean a guy winning a master 1000 before slam isn’t considered match fit then really would have to think what match fit is, winning Ao before coming Rg only counts for match fit it seems
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I had to ask because there are genuinely Djokovic fans on this site who believe that (and who also simultaneously think Nadal was fully fit at RG 21)
 
rick kerr said:
Depends on his AO.

If he wins the AO in thumping fashion and assuming Rafa is in bad form at FO then I like Novak's chances, he has a good chance to win. Even last year had Novak taken that match to the 5th set vs Rafa then we never know, might have won somehow and then maybe whooped Ruud and Zverev? The chances aren't bad even this year, maybe 23 is the last year when he still has a shot...
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Fair enough lets see.
 
Djokovic of course, he might do it this year!

W/o Morrison government, Nadal would be still searching for 2nd GS! He hasn't won at Wimb for 14 years!
 
I think triple would be too much for anyone.

Agassi is the best player at adapting at different courts but is he good enough for 3 Wimbledon and 3 RGs?

Ironically, I think Borg is the best fit here, even if he never won the USO. He dominated two opposite slams and he would have won at the AO a few times had he played it. He was unlucky at the USO but made 4 finals. With a bit more luck and not retiring soon I think he would have won it a few times.
 
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