Forbes: Want to live longer ? Play tennis

VladBurn

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/steven...t-to-live-longer-take-up-tennis/#7e615474301b

This is an interesting article to read, though not sure how reliable it is, because it's just an observational study as stated in the article.

Anyway, let's discuss this.

(Caveats: this was an observational study, based on surveys of people's behavior over a 25-year time span. The scientists tried to take into account all the other variables that might affect life expectancy, but humans are complicated and surveys are never entirely reliable. We don't know that tennis, badminton, and the other sports were the cause of longer life–it might be that people who play sports are generally healthier, and that both leads to longer life and allows them to play more sports.)


" Tennis might just be the best thing you can do to extend your life.

A new study from Denmark, published just last week by Peter Schnohr and colleagues, shows that playing tennis may extend your life by nearly 10 years. That's a remarkably big benefit, one that even the study authors were surprised at.

It's been well-established for a while now that exercise helps you live longer. For example, the Cardiovascular Health Study found that people over the age of 75 can expect to gain 1 to 1.5 years of healthy living by being active rather than sedentary. Others studies have looked at the effects of running or walking and found similar positive benefits.

The authors of the new study wanted to look at other sports activities, not just running. Using a large cohort of 20,000 healthy people in the Copenhagen City Heart Study, they identified 8,577 who were in the study from the early 1990s until 2017 and who met a variety of other criteria for inclusion. This gave them 25 years of followup, long enough to ask the question: how does participation in sports affect life expectancy?





In particular, they looked at tennis, badminton, soccer, jogging, cycling, calisthenics, swimming, and health club activities (which included treadmills, ellipticals, and weights).

The bottom line: compared to a sedentary lifestyle, playing tennis extends one's life expectancy by 9.7 years. The other sports all provided benefits too, though tennis was the clear winner. Here's a summary:

  • Tennis: 9.7 years gain in life expectancy
  • Badminton: 6.2 years
  • Soccer: 4.7 years
  • Cycling: 3.7 years
  • Swimming: 3.4 years
  • Jogging: 3.2 years
  • Calisthenics: 3.1 years
  • Health club activities: 1.5 years

The authors didn't expect tennis to do so well, as you can see in this quote:

"Surprisingly, we found that tennis players had the longest expected lifetime among the 8 different sports."

For those who don't read scientific papers regularly, I should point out that the word "surprisingly" rarely gets past the editors unless the result truly is surprising. One part of the surprise is that spending more time exercising did not correlate with the greatest benefits. In fact, the cohort of people who spent the longest time on their exercise was the health club group, who showed the smallest increase in longevity.

One possible reason for tennis, badminton, and soccer doing so well is that out of the 8 sports studied, these are the ones that require 2 or more people and involve social interaction. As the authors explain,

"Belonging to a group that meets regularly promotes a sense of support, trust, and commonality, which has been shown to contribute to a sense of well-being and improved long-term health."

Or it might be that the type of exercise you get in tennis – short bursts of activity rather than slow, steady plodding exercise – might be better for you. The authors noted that

"short repeated intervals of higher intensity exercise appear to be superior to continuous moderate intensity physical activity for improving health outcomes."

If you're still skeptical, the only other study similar to this one, a very large study from Britain published last year, came to the same conclusion: racquet sports had the greatest benefit on all-cause mortality, followed by swimming and aerobics.

So if you're not doing it already, take up tennis! It's easy to find clinics and teams at almost any level (in the U.S., that is), thanks to the thousands of local clubs and to the huge network of USTA leagues, with play ranging from beginners on up, and age groups up to 85 and even 90.

That's right, there are tennis leagues for the 90-and-over set. Maybe tennis players really do live longer.

(Caveats: this was an observational study, based on surveys of people's behavior over a 25-year time span. The scientists tried to take into account all the other variables that might affect life expectancy, but humans are complicated and surveys are never entirely reliable. We don't know that tennis, badminton, and the other sports were the cause of longer life–it might be that people who play sports are generally healthier, and that both leads to longer life and allows them to play more sports.)

I'm the Bloomberg Distinguished Professor of Biomedical Engineering, Computer Science, and Biostatistics at Johns Hopkins University. From 2005-2011 I was the Horvitz Professor of Computer Science and Director of the Center for Bioinformatics and Computational Biology at the...

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Steven Salzberg is the Bloomberg Distinguished Professor of Biomedical Engineering, Computer Science, and Biostatistics at Johns Hopkins University.
 
Add following into your routine

Walk for half an hour at a good speed in park/garden (not fvcking treadmill)
Then do body exercises for an hour or 45 mins
Maintain balanced diet (no junk sh!!t)
Concentrate for 15 mins after exercise
Take deep breathes murmuring *om* right after awakening in morning, for 15 mins

And you will be a fit and fine person till you take in the last breathe of your life

(No need to be an exercise freak like me, not everyone' body can afford it)
 

Northern

Hall of Fame
https://www.forbes.com/sites/steven...t-to-live-longer-take-up-tennis/#7e615474301b

This is an interesting article to read, though not sure how reliable it is, because it's just an observational study as stated in the article.

Anyway, let's discuss this.



" Tennis might just be the best thing you can do to extend your life.

A new study from Denmark, published just last week by Peter Schnohr and colleagues, shows that playing tennis may extend your life by nearly 10 years. That's a remarkably big benefit, one that even the study authors were surprised at.

It's been well-established for a while now that exercise helps you live longer. For example, the Cardiovascular Health Study found that people over the age of 75 can expect to gain 1 to 1.5 years of healthy living by being active rather than sedentary. Others studies have looked at the effects of running or walking and found similar positive benefits.

The authors of the new study wanted to look at other sports activities, not just running. Using a large cohort of 20,000 healthy people in the Copenhagen City Heart Study, they identified 8,577 who were in the study from the early 1990s until 2017 and who met a variety of other criteria for inclusion. This gave them 25 years of followup, long enough to ask the question: how does participation in sports affect life expectancy?





In particular, they looked at tennis, badminton, soccer, jogging, cycling, calisthenics, swimming, and health club activities (which included treadmills, ellipticals, and weights).

The bottom line: compared to a sedentary lifestyle, playing tennis extends one's life expectancy by 9.7 years. The other sports all provided benefits too, though tennis was the clear winner. Here's a summary:

  • Tennis: 9.7 years gain in life expectancy
  • Badminton: 6.2 years
  • Soccer: 4.7 years
  • Cycling: 3.7 years
  • Swimming: 3.4 years
  • Jogging: 3.2 years
  • Calisthenics: 3.1 years
  • Health club activities: 1.5 years

The authors didn't expect tennis to do so well, as you can see in this quote:

"Surprisingly, we found that tennis players had the longest expected lifetime among the 8 different sports."

For those who don't read scientific papers regularly, I should point out that the word "surprisingly" rarely gets past the editors unless the result truly is surprising. One part of the surprise is that spending more time exercising did not correlate with the greatest benefits. In fact, the cohort of people who spent the longest time on their exercise was the health club group, who showed the smallest increase in longevity.

One possible reason for tennis, badminton, and soccer doing so well is that out of the 8 sports studied, these are the ones that require 2 or more people and involve social interaction. As the authors explain,

"Belonging to a group that meets regularly promotes a sense of support, trust, and commonality, which has been shown to contribute to a sense of well-being and improved long-term health."

Or it might be that the type of exercise you get in tennis – short bursts of activity rather than slow, steady plodding exercise – might be better for you. The authors noted that

"short repeated intervals of higher intensity exercise appear to be superior to continuous moderate intensity physical activity for improving health outcomes."

If you're still skeptical, the only other study similar to this one, a very large study from Britain published last year, came to the same conclusion: racquet sports had the greatest benefit on all-cause mortality, followed by swimming and aerobics.

So if you're not doing it already, take up tennis! It's easy to find clinics and teams at almost any level (in the U.S., that is), thanks to the thousands of local clubs and to the huge network of USTA leagues, with play ranging from beginners on up, and age groups up to 85 and even 90.

That's right, there are tennis leagues for the 90-and-over set. Maybe tennis players really do live longer.

(Caveats: this was an observational study, based on surveys of people's behavior over a 25-year time span. The scientists tried to take into account all the other variables that might affect life expectancy, but humans are complicated and surveys are never entirely reliable. We don't know that tennis, badminton, and the other sports were the cause of longer life–it might be that people who play sports are generally healthier, and that both leads to longer life and allows them to play more sports.)

I'm the Bloomberg Distinguished Professor of Biomedical Engineering, Computer Science, and Biostatistics at Johns Hopkins University. From 2005-2011 I was the Horvitz Professor of Computer Science and Director of the Center for Bioinformatics and Computational Biology at the...

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Steven Salzberg is the Bloomberg Distinguished Professor of Biomedical Engineering, Computer Science, and Biostatistics at Johns Hopkins University.
Observational studies are mostly worthless to derive correlations, but studies like this are particularly garbage, since there are obvious confounding variables. Of course people who play tennis live longer, the same way attending the opera and driving a Rolls Royce seem to have mysterious life-extending properties.
 

VladBurn

Rookie
Observational studies are mostly worthless to derive correlations, but studies like this are particularly garbage, since there are obvious confounding variables. Of course people who play tennis live longer, the same way attending the opera and driving a Rolls Royce seem to have mysterious life-extending properties.
I get your point and I also dont have much trust in this type of studies, but look at the numbers, they state that tennis players live 9.7 years longer while soccer players for example live 4.7 years longer, now that is more than 2x difference and Im wondering where they got this number from.
In the same article they also state that another study claims that racket sports players live longest.
 

Northern

Hall of Fame
I get your point and I also dont have much trust in this type of studies, but look at the numbers, they state that tennis players live 9.7 years longer while soccer players for example live 4.7 years longer, now that is more than 2x difference and Im wondering where they got this number from.
In the same article they also state that another study claims that racket sports players live longest.
A lot of poor people play soccer. And many more people play soccer than they play tennis. And countries where soccer is popular (vs countries where tennis is popular) are mostly poor and have bad healthcare systems (if they have any.) And so on...
 

Djokodalerer31

Hall of Fame
Sounds like bunch of baloneys to me! Athletes are just as likely if not more to go before their time, as a regular person who doesn't do any sport! I have heard lots of stories of athletes passing out due to increased cases of heart attacks, several lung problems etc...not to mention lethal sports like boxing or some of the extreme winter sports! Tennis can be too, especially for those, who have problems with heart and lungs! Running and competing at the highest levels for 2-4 hours each matches can lead to a negative consequences! So unless its just a slow-paced practice courts non-professional one hour sessions we are talking about its just as likely to hit on one's health as anything, that usually hits the health of the person, who doesn't do any sport or activity!
 

Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru
I played TODAY, have you been on a court since day camp this past summer? :D

I was just wondering, lol. I don't play, but playing rec league doesn't make you smart about the pro game either. No offence, but I'd still call you an "armchair expert."
 
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What if I don’t want to live longer?
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Deleted member 688153

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Inb4 anyone disagrees

Getting regular exercise is basically the best thing you can do for your body. I play a good level of tennis regularly, and I've never felt better since I started a few years ago. It's good for your mind, strength, cardiovascular health, flexibility, coordination, reflexes, social life, all of it.
I know this because all of those things of mine have improved, some dramatically, from playing tennis.
 
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I was just wondering, lol. I don't play, but playing rec league doesn't make you smart about the pro game either. No offence, but I'd still call you an "armchair expert."
Give it a go if you ever get the chance. It's the best.
 

uscwang

Hall of Fame
Want to live longer, have great longevity, then concentrate on connective tissue. That is where the real power comes from, and what helps you remain youthful.
What types of exercise help connective tissue in general? Thanks.
 

IowaGuy

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Observational studies are mostly worthless to derive correlations, but studies like this are particularly garbage, since there are obvious confounding variables. Of course people who play tennis live longer, the same way attending the opera and driving a Rolls Royce seem to have mysterious life-extending properties.

A lot of poor people play soccer. And many more people play soccer than they play tennis. And countries where soccer is popular (vs countries where tennis is popular) are mostly poor and have bad healthcare systems (if they have any.) And so on...

But wouldn't belonging to a health club also be associated with folks in a higher socioeconomic bracket like tennis? Yet 1.5 years compared to 10 years is quite different...
 
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It's an obvious truth that

1. Playing tennis makes you healthier
2. Being healthier makes you live longer

But it would be near impossible to actually quantify. Like, to actually say how much longer you'd live.
 

swizzy

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i read another study that added further weight to tennis as a healthy sport for the body as well as the mind. tennis is a creative game..which causes the player to problem solve with each rally..playing both defense and offense simultaneously.. while exercising the body the mind is engaged on a pretty high level..often. the article i read included all racquet sports as having the same benefits
 

Zoolander

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Have read before that tennis is better than other sports..... it’s been shown that manual labour and grip strength exercises are good for blood pressure and heart health. I think it’s the grip strength needed to hold and swing a racquet for a match, combined with the cardio, that makes tennis better than football, running, rugby etc
 

Sudacafan

Bionic Poster
Want to live longer, have great longevity, then concentrate on connective tissue. That is where the real power comes from, and what helps you remain youthful.
My connective tissues are in horrible state. Recognized scientists have declared them belonging to an **** Sapiens twice my biological age.
 

Northern

Hall of Fame
But wouldn't belonging to a health club also be associated with folks in a higher socioeconomic bracket like tennis? Yet 1.5 years compared to 10 years is quite different...
Health clubs are way cheaper than tennis clubs.

Common sense tells me that there is nothing in tennis that can possibly extend your life for 1 year, much less 10 years. This is nonsense AFAICT.
 

Northern

Hall of Fame
Never been to the tribute thread? What keeps you away?
Are you talking about Sureshs? I don't think he likes me because of some argument we had about evolution I have already forgotten about, so I stay away. I think he was trolling me, TBH. I read the first few pages, though. I can't believe that thing has hundreds of pages now.
 

Otacon

Hall of Fame
Tennis isn’t an expensive sport. Once you have a tennis racket ($10 – $200) and a can of balls ($2–$4), you’re good to go! Tennis courts are readily available to play on for free at public parks. You can learn by watching people live or on TV or YouTube as well.
 

Northern

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But a lot of people play tennis that aren't members of tennis clubs, myself included :)
True, but in general poor people don't have access to tennis courts. It doesn't matter, observational studies are not very valuable for this kind of stuff.
 

uscwang

Hall of Fame
I read this on Sunday. I think it said maybe tennis players are more well off or something so that could be a factor.

Although that cannot be ruled out for certain, the authors have made adjustment for confounding variables like income, and plus, the study was done in Copenhagen, where you can expect probably the least economic disparities.
 

IowaGuy

Hall of Fame
observational studies are not very valuable for this kind of stuff.

Depends on the sample size and how well the other correlated variables are controlled for (like the correlation between income and tennis, as you mention).

More people and better controls = more robust statistics.

Nurses' Health Study being one of the famous ones with 121,000 participants, along with of course the China Health and Nutrition Survey of 880,000,000 residents of China.
 

Northern

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Depends on the sample size and how well the other correlated variables are controlled for (like the correlation between income and tennis, as you mention).

More people and better controls = more robust statistics.

Nurses' Health Study being one of the famous ones with 121,000 participants, along with of course the China Health and Nutrition Survey of 880,000,000 residents of China.
If you have a biased sample (like in this case) its size doesn't help at all.
 
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