Forehand finish?

zill

Professional
Many say it dosen't matter where you finish but still different players finish at different positions. What determines where you should finish your forehand?

eg Djokovic finishes up high. Federer a bit lower. Wawrinka even lower.

I know it will depend on the stroke but in general out of 100 random forehands one would see Djokovic finishing higher than Federer and finishing higher than Wawrinka on average.

Also I find it interesting that for the topspin backhand everyone finishes up high regardless if its single or two handed.
 

TagUrIt

Hall of Fame
I think everyone has a different swing path that works for them. In today’s times it’s not wrong or incorrect NOT to finish over the shoulder. I can crush a forehand, but I don’t finish over my shoulder. I can still get a large amount of pace and topspin finishing at the midway point.

I definitely agree with you with the backhands though. I feel like you’re going against your body more, so you need to carry the ball with an upward swing.
 

kramer woodie

Professional
Many say it dosen't matter where you finish but still different players finish at different positions. What determines where you should finish your forehand?

eg Djokovic finishes up high. Federer a bit lower. Wawrinka even lower.

I know it will depend on the stroke but in general out of 100 random forehands one would see Djokovic finishing higher than Federer and finishing higher than Wawrinka on average.

Also I find it interesting that for the topspin backhand everyone finishes up high regardless if its single or two handed.
zill

Please, quit worrying about these things. Just get on the court and try different finishes and see what works best for you. That said, spin is basically dependent upon the amount of vertical swing path when meeting the ball, unless your are brushing over the top of the ball to hit flatter. The more vertical the swing finish, the higher the launch angle.

Just compare Nadal's and Federer's normal forehand strokes to see the difference. Nadal's higher brush up, the higher the bounce off the court.
Federer's more through and over the top, the flatter the shot, but the ball accelerates off the court at the opponent instead of rapidly up.

If I were you, I would not look for just one type of forehand. Instead, become proficient at both Nadal's and Federer's styles of forehands. That way your opponents won't get comfortable knowing what to expect. You can keep them off balance and force them to focus on your stroke in order to know what type of bounce to expect.

Shalom
 

blablavla

Professional
Many say it dosen't matter where you finish but still different players finish at different positions. What determines where you should finish your forehand?

eg Djokovic finishes up high. Federer a bit lower. Wawrinka even lower.

I know it will depend on the stroke but in general out of 100 random forehands one would see Djokovic finishing higher than Federer and finishing higher than Wawrinka on average.

Also I find it interesting that for the topspin backhand everyone finishes up high regardless if its single or two handed.
yes and no simultaneously.

on one side it doesn't matter as the contact between the racket and the ball already happened in the past.
so, technically, if you would be able to make a funky finish as opposed to the natural swingpath, it wouldn't have any impact on the ball anymore.

where it does matter.
in particular with pros, that hit with crazy pace and spin.
try to see 2 of the Nadal's quite different forehand shots:
1. let's say the rally ball on clay, where he tries to induce this crazy arch and crazy RPM. is the finish called windshield?
that type of finish is probably the most natural continuation of the swingpath

2. try to see some of his run-around inside out forehands, when he goes for a 1 shot winner, and the speed of the ball can reach 150 km/h and even more (around 100 mph)
you can clearly see that the finishing happens much lower when compared to the previously described shot.
again, this type of lower finishing is probably more natural for shots where the player goes for less arch, more pace.

Let me guess that there is not much difference between the energy required to produce the 2 shots.
And let me guess that the RHS is quite similar.
The difference comes in how this energy is distributed between spin and pace.
The more up his hand goes, the more spin will be imparted and thus less speed.
While a lower finish means that he goes for brute force and less spin, yet spin is needed.
 

zill

Professional
yes and no simultaneously.

on one side it doesn't matter as the contact between the racket and the ball already happened in the past.
so, technically, if you would be able to make a funky finish as opposed to the natural swingpath, it wouldn't have any impact on the ball anymore.

where it does matter.
in particular with pros, that hit with crazy pace and spin.
try to see 2 of the Nadal's quite different forehand shots:
1. let's say the rally ball on clay, where he tries to induce this crazy arch and crazy RPM. is the finish called windshield?
that type of finish is probably the most natural continuation of the swingpath

2. try to see some of his run-around inside out forehands, when he goes for a 1 shot winner, and the speed of the ball can reach 150 km/h and even more (around 100 mph)
you can clearly see that the finishing happens much lower when compared to the previously described shot.
again, this type of lower finishing is probably more natural for shots where the player goes for less arch, more pace.

Let me guess that there is not much difference between the energy required to produce the 2 shots.
And let me guess that the RHS is quite similar.
The difference comes in how this energy is distributed between spin and pace.
The more up his hand goes, the more spin will be imparted and thus less speed.
While a lower finish means that he goes for brute force and less spin, yet spin is needed.

I actually can produce more spin finishing down at times. So the racquet quickly brushed upward then downwards. Sometimes finishing above the shoulder can result in a flatter ball.
 

Dragy

Hall of Fame
It also strongly depends on the contact height, including preferred contact height and relative to court positioning.
 

FiReFTW

Legend
There are so many variables like the ball your receiving, the contact height, the shot you want to hit.. that this is basically meaningless, and you shouldn't worry about the finish at all... instead worry about producing the type of shot you want on the other side of the court and the finish will be automatic.
 

zill

Professional
There are so many variables like the ball your receiving, the contact height, the shot you want to hit.. that this is basically meaningless, and you shouldn't worry about the finish at all... instead worry about producing the type of shot you want on the other side of the court and the finish will be automatic.
Why is it that Djokovic almost always finish higher than Wawrinka???

 
Top