Forget about bronze and silver. A Gold Medal Is The Only Medal That Counts In Olympic Tennis.

[Better_Call_Raul]

The Olympics has a long amateur history. And hence bronze and gold medals had their place. A consolation prize for participation if you will.
Yes, we get it. The amateur Olympic Spirit.
But those days are gone and now the Olympics are filled with professionals.
No tennis pro is satisfied with the runner up trophy at a grand slam. It is viewed as a devastating loss.
Likewise, there is no joy in winning Silver at Olympic Tennis (ask the weeping Carlos).

Winning is the only goal. First place. Gold is the only goal, Nothing less.

Just as it should be.

 

[Impressario]

 

[Better_Call_Raul]

We are talking specifically Olympic Tennis event which is populated by tennis professionals.
Bronze is just fine at other Olympic Events such as your favourite archery event populated by amateurs.

ATP pros are not satisfied with anything less than first place. Be it at a Slam or at Olympics.

 

[Lleytonstation]

Djoker 1 gold
Fed 1 gold
Rafa 2 gold

 

[weakera]

If you ain't first, you're last

 

[Unseeded Player]

Djoker 1 gold
Fed 1 gold
Rafa 2 gold

Doubles are not counted

 

[Impressario]

We are talking specifically Olympic Tennis event which is populated by tennis professionals.
Bronze is just fine at other Olympic Events such as your favourite archery event populated by amateurs.

ATP pros are not satisfied with anything less than first place. Be it at a Slam or at Olympics.

 

[Lleytonstation]

Doubles are not counted

Yes they are. They are gold. No one thinks less of Phelps teams wins.

Plus, in this argument where silver and bronze do not matter than you are saying only gold matters.

So in that case gold is gold in tennis

 

[Aussie Darcy]

Doubles are not counted

Oh honey, sweetie no....

Olympic Gold is Olympic gold.

You want to downplay Usain Bolt in the Olympic relays? Michael Phelps in his relays? Serena and Venus in Doubles? Gold is gold.

Just be happy Djokovic finally got his Gold, don't try to discount others, that's bitter and embarrassing. Enjoy your moment.

 

[Unseeded Player]

Yes they are. They are gold. No one thinks less of Phelps teams wins.

Plus, in this argument where silver and bronze do not matter than you are saying only gold matters.

So in that case gold is gold in tennis

Only singles counts go, sorry. Fed can split that with Wawrinka.

It matters but it doesn't count as tournament won.

 

[Better_Call_Raul]

If you ain't first, you're last

True. Only first matters. At slams or at Olympics.
Coach Goran says Djoker wants to win every tournament. Nothing less.
Djoker leads everyone with 24 "Gold Medals" at Slams.
For those who wish to count second place, Djoker also leads everyone with 13 Silver Medals at Slams.

 

[weakera]

Doubles are not counted

Then you need to call Djokovic GSOAT (greatest singles), not GOAT. It's really that simple.

 

[Aussie Darcy]

Only singles counts go, sorry. Fed can split that with Wawrinka.

It matters but it doesn't count as tournament won.

So Michael Phelps has a bunch less Gold medals because he has to split it with 3 other men in the relays?

You're embarrassing yourself, just stop. You're making Djokovic fans look salty, bitter and sad

 

[Better_Call_Raul]

Djoker 1 gold
Fed 1 gold
Rafa 2 gold

You are saying Djoker should have entered Doubles.

 

[Unseeded Player]

Oh honey, sweetie no....

Olympic Gold is Olympic gold.

You want to downplay Usain Bolt in the Olympic relays? Michael Phelps in his relays? Serena and Venus in Doubles? Gold is gold.

Just be happy Djokovic finally got his Gold, don't try to discount others, that's embarrassing.

You are going with tennis and athletics comparison? And Bolt has won a gold medal by single run, Phelps won a gold medal by a single run, Fed didn't.

 

[weakera]

So Michael Phelps has like a bunch less Gold medals because he has to split it with 3 other men?

You're embarrassing yourself, just stop. You're making Djokovic fans look salty, bitter and sad

It's like saying Clint Eastwood's Oscsars won as a Director don't count lol

Makes no sense

 

[Aussie Darcy]

You are going with tennis and athletics comparison? And Bolt has won a gold medal by single run, Phelps won a gold medal by a single run, Fed didn't.

I'll put this in caps and bold for you so you understand. Sorry if it seems like i'm screaming but you need to understand this since you don't understand how it works.

OLYMPIC GOLD IS OLYMPIC GOLD.

Singles, doubles, relays, mixed. Gold. Is. Gold.

 

[Lleytonstation]

Only singles counts go, sorry. Fed can split that with Wawrinka.

It matters but it doesn't count as tournament won.

Gold is gold. Ask anyone. It isn't like a slam. In fact, more people would be impressed with a gold medal than a AO trophy.

 

[Better_Call_Raul]

Only singles counts go, sorry. Fed can split that with Wawrinka.

It matters but it doesn't count as tournament won.

You are correct.
Not even the staunchest Fed fanatics here ever say he has a Gold Medal. Never.
Fed is missing a Gold Medal from his resume. Murray,Rafa and Djoker have one.

 

[Lleytonstation]

You are saying Djoker should have entered Doubles.

Yes he should have.

How many golds does fed have? One.

How many golds does djoker have? One.

These are facts

 

[Mainad]

I'll put this in caps for you so you understand. Sorry if it seems like i'm screaming but you need to understand this.

OLYMPIC GOLD IS OLYMPIC GOLD.

True but achieving one all by yourself caps doing it with the help of others. Members of an Olympic gold medal team may each receive a medal but it only counts as 1 for their country.

 

[Lleytonstation]

Guess Simone biles needs to recount her golds

 

[Aussie Darcy]

Yes he should have.

How many golds does fed have? One.

How many golds does djoker have? One.

These are facts

Djokovic could actually have had the edge over Federer had he not cracked the ****s in Tokyo 2020 and withdrawn from the Mixed Doubles Bronze match. He could have a Gold and 2 Bronze. Him and Stojanovic would have had a great shot at beating Barty/Peers but instead he withdrew after losing to PCB. Lol.

 

[Unseeded Player]

I'll put this in caps for you so you understand. Sorry if it seems like i'm screaming but you need to understand this since you don't understand how it works.

OLYMPIC GOLD IS OLYMPIC GOLD.

Singles, doubles, relays, mixed. Gold. Is. Gold.

Dude it is not counted in his big titles cause it is not single

 

[nolefam_2024]

Singles gold counts more than doubles gold , its a no brainer for a tennis player

But looking from country perspective, both count same


Singles gold - higher and more skilled win
Doubles gold - same prestige in Olympics

 

[weakera]

True but achieving one all by yourself caps doing it with the help of others. Members of an Olympic gold medal team may each receive a medal but it only counts as 1 for their country.

I can't say I agree. No one disparages Phelps for his relay gold won with the heroics of Lezak in 2008. If you perform for your team and you win gold that's your gold.

 

[Unseeded Player]

Djokovic could actually have had the edge over Federer had he not cracked the ****s in Tokyo 2020 and withdrawn from the Mixed Doubles Bronze match. He could have a Gold and a Bronze. Him and Stojanovic would have had a great shot at beating Barty/Peers but instead he withdrew after losing to PCB. Lol.

Novak has a gold and a bronze

 

[Aussie Darcy]

Dude it is not counted in his big titles cause it is not single

Dude, Olympic Gold is Olympic Gold.

Maybe 10-20 million people globally watch a slam win. Billions watch the Olympic games. I always laughed when Novak fans downplayed the Olympics like it was nothing.

The Olympics unites the world for 2 weeks, it's everywhere.

 

[Aussie Darcy]

Novak has a gold and a bronze

Apologies I meant gold and 2 bronze. Fed has gold and silver. Novak has gold and bronze.

Gold and silver > Gold and bronze.

Doesn't take a genius for that.

 

[Lleytonstation]

Singles gold counts more than doubles gold , its a no brainer for a tennis player

But looking from country perspective, both count same


Singles gold - higher and more skilled win
Doubles gold - same prestige in Olympics

Good point. Hence in tennis singles gold is like WTF level.

So insane achievement in singles or doubles to win gold.

But as far as tennis legacy not a huge difference.

 

[Better_Call_Raul]

Djoker 1 gold
Fed 1 gold
Rafa 2 gold

Others are just counting number of medals won. In that case:

Djoker: 3 medals
Fed: 2 medals
Rafa: 2 medals

 

[Aussie Darcy]

Singles gold counts more than doubles gold , its a no brainer for a tennis player

But looking from country perspective, both count same


Singles gold - higher and more skilled win
Doubles gold - same prestige in Olympics

On the medal tally they count the same and that's what matters most. The billions of people who watch the Olympics care about that. They don't care if it's singles or doubles.

My Aussies won Gold in men's doubles, I don't care. That's gold for Australia.

 

[Unseeded Player]

Apologies I meant gold and 2 bronze. Fed has gold and silver. Novak has gold and bronze.

Gold and silver > Gold and bronze.

Doesn't take a genius for that.

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[Aussie Darcy]

Others are just counting number of medals won. In that case:

Djoker: 3 medals
Fed: 2 medals
Rafa: 2 medals

Oh... no... now you're sounding like America. A medal is impressive but you can't say Gold = bronze babe. Come on. Don't blame dumb.

 

[Lleytonstation]

Others are just counting number of medals won. In that case:

Djoker: 3 medals
Fed: 2 medals
Rafa: 2 medals

You said gold only matters.

 

[Aussie Darcy]

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Amazing list of people who've accomplished the SINGLES career golden slam. I never disputed that babe?

 

[Unseeded Player]

Amazing list of people who've accomplished the SINGLES career golden slam. I never disputed that babe?

https://www.atptour.com/-/media/images/news/2024/08/04/16/21/djokovic-olympics-2024-big-titles-kings-graphic-final.jpg

 

[Better_Call_Raul]

Oh... no... now you're sounding like America. A medal is impressive but you can't say Gold = bronze babe. Come on. Don't blame dumb.

Others say that. Gold is all that matters.

 

[Aussie Darcy]

Others say that. Gold is all that matters.

Cool so then it's:
Murray: 2
Nadal: 2
Djokovic: 1
Federer: 1

 

[Unseeded Player]

Cool so then it's:
Murray: 2
Federer: 1
Nadal: 1
Federer: 1

Where is Federer single gold?

 

[Better_Call_Raul]

Amazing list of people who've accomplished the SINGLES career golden slam. I never disputed that babe?

How many have completed both SINGLES and DOUBLES career golden slam
Margaret Court? Emerson? Your favourite Serena?


correction:
Olympics began in 1988 and were not available to our favourite Margaret.
But she would have certainly won.

 

[Aussie Darcy]

Where is Federer single gold?

Oh my god I am done with you. Olympic Gold is Olympic Gold. People don't discount Michael Phelps or Simone Biles or Relay swimmers. You're embarrassing yourself.

 

[Pheasant]

So Michael Phelps has a bunch less Gold medals because he has to split it with 3 other men in the relays?

You're embarrassing yourself, just stop. You're making Djokovic fans look salty, bitter and sad

Did they literally laser cut that gold medal into 2 two pieces? If so, then that dude is right.

But something tells me that each of the team members got his own individual gold medal.

 

[Unseeded Player]

Oh my god I am done with you. Olympic Gold is Olympic Gold. People don't discount Michael Phelps or Simone Biles or Relay swimmers. You're embarrassing yourself.

ATP doesn't count that as a big title, asyou can see on the link I posted. Sorry, it is not my fault Novak has single gold and Fed doesn't.

 

[Aussie Darcy]

How many have completed both SINGLES and DOUBLES career golden slam
Margarert Court? Emerson? Serena?

I believe only Serena.

Tennis wasn't an Olympic sport between 1924 and 1988 so none of Court, Emerson, Laver, BJK ever had a chance.

Graf was never much of a doubles player so she didn't come close in doubles.

 

[Unseeded Player]

Did they literally laser cut that gold medal into 2 two pieces? If so, then that dude is right.

But something tells me that each of the team members got his own individual gold medal.

So why doesn't ATP count that as a Big title?

 

[Better_Call_Raul]

So why doesn't ATP count that as a Big title?

"I'd rather win Olympic Doubles Gold than Olympic Singles Gold" said no tennis player ever.
Clearly there is a difference. Maybe not to clueless general public but everyone else understands that an individual achievement is greater.

 

[Better_Call_Raul]

The GOAT Margaret would have dominated Olympics.
Court be taking home 3 Gold Medals today in Singles,Doubles and Mixed.

 

[ibbi]

In terms of the medal table, sure, and for certain athletes, absolutely, but there are plenty of athletes who, for a variety of reasons, would consider snagging any medal a glorious prize.

It's easy to sit at your keyboard and type up a storm as to why you're all about the gold, but to those who spend their lives working their butts off for minimal reward, that's comically small-brained thinking.

 

[Hood_Man]

You are going with tennis and athletics comparison? And Bolt has won a gold medal by single run, Phelps won a gold medal by a single run, Fed didn't.

Well yeah, if Novak only ran once he wouldn't have won a single point.