Forgive Me, Father, For I Am a Full Fledged Sinner!

James P

Hall of Fame
He may need the week open to qualify...live ranking is #95 and he can be passed by several players in the last two weeks of Challengers. To help stay above the cut line, he’s playing Ortisei this week but there’s no guarantee until he wins several matches.
Breakdown for Ortisei as of now:

Win 0. No changes obviously.
Win 1. Gains 2 ranking points. No ranking effect.
Win 2. Gains 10 ranking points. Gains 3 ranks to 92.
Win 3. Gains 24 ranking points. Gains 6 ranks to 89.
Win 4. Gains 43 ranking points. Gains 12 ranks to 83.
Win 5. Gains 75 ranking points. Gains 16 ranks to 79.

Obviously, it's not a vacuum and there are hundreds of moving parts besides him, but that's roughly what it looks like going into this week.
 
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stringertom

Bionic Poster
Are AO wild cards out? They'd be foolish not to give him one if they can spare it, IMO.
I searched all the way back to 2003. Their hard line allotment format is:

1. USTA reciprocal

2. FFT reciprocal

3. At large Asia/Pacific WC

4. TennisAustralia play-in tournament winner

5-8 at large WCs from Australia

In other words, don’t hold your breath.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Breakdown for Ortisei as of now:

Win 0. No changes obviously.
Win 1. Gains 3 ranking points. No ranking effect.
Win 2. Gains 10 ranking points. Gains 3 ranks to 92.
Win 3. Gains 24 ranking points. Gains 6 ranks to 89.
Win 4. Gains 43 ranking points. Gains 12 ranks to 83.
Win 5. Gains 75 ranking points. Gains 16 ranks to 79.

Obviously, it's not a vacuum and there are hundreds of moving parts besides him, but that's roughly what it looks like going into this week.
The obvious factors are how well Dzumhur does tomorrow in Bratislava, what Sugita does in Kobe and can he or will he take a SE at either of the US Challengers, and how Munar does today and possibly tomorrow in Montevideo. Then it’s a matter of who advances farther next week amongst those three plus Gerasimov and Caruso as compared to Jannik. He could move down by 4 spots if Sugita is not in the mix or 5 if the Japanese veteran gets an SE.

AO draw is 128 minus 16 qualifiers and 8 WCs and an as of yet undetermined number of PR entries. If the protected count stays at six or below, #98 is in.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Munar came from a set and a break down to beat teenager Thiago Seyboth Wild and advance to the final in Montevideo. He is now tied in points with Sinner and will of course bump Jannik down with a win in the final on Sunday vs veteran Argentine lefty Federico Delbonis.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Sinners rejoice: Novak crushes Dzumhur in the Bratislava Challenger final. Worst case scenario entering Ortisei is #96 if Munar wins the Montevideo final.
 

James P

Hall of Fame
I listen to 4-5 tennis podcasts/vlogs regularly. It kind of annoyed me how there was barely a passing sentence after Antwerp, however, this week it's literally Sinner Mania on all of the podcasts. Piatti is interviewed on the ATP Tennis Radio podcast this week, if you want some insights.
 
I listen to 4-5 tennis podcasts/vlogs regularly. It kind of annoyed me how there was barely a passing sentence after Antwerp, however, this week it's literally Sinner Mania on all of the podcasts. Piatti is interviewed on the ATP Tennis Radio podcast this week, if you want some insights.
Hopefully it's not a bit TOO much: big new sponsorship deals on a daily basis, Big Old Three singing his praise (Djoke the latest to offer his jinxtastic thoughts), hordes of skin-baring Instagram cuties tormenting him on social media, mass hysteria throughout Italy and beyond...

The kid seems impervious to most of it, but still...

It sure is great business for Piatti though!
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Jannik will play Wednesday night in the featured evening match vs Austrian Lucas Miedler. The h2h is 2-0 for The Sinner with both going to a TB in the first set (Bergamo and Orleans) before our man pulled away for the straight set wins, 6&2 and 6&1.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Sinner serves it out at love, 7-6(5) 7-5.

3R tomorrow vs Marcora, who edged the Italian teen Zeppieri from a set down to 7-5 in the third.
 
Sinner serves it out at love, 7-6(5) 7-5.

3R tomorrow vs Marcora, who edged the Italian teen Zeppieri from a set down to 7-5 in the third.
A rematch of the Bergamo final! I personally would have liked to see Zeppieri but he kinda blew it today, consistently bungling the big points.

Very peculiar conditions in Ortisei this week. Extremely fast courts, kinda like playing on ice... Ball flies, sneaky quick bounces, and every random hack is routinely serving double-digit aces (Lucone Vanni had 32!).
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
A rematch of the Bergamo final! I personally would have liked to see Zeppieri but he kinda blew it today, consistently bungling the big points.

Very peculiar conditions in Ortisei this week. Extremely fast courts, kinda like playing on ice... Ball flies, sneaky quick bounces, and every random hack is routinely serving double-digit aces (Lucone Vanni had 32!).
 
Sinner's match vs Marcora is being broadcast live on national TV in Italy, with a real multi-camera production, replays and commentary. It should be visible to all on Supertennis.tv and their Facebook page (the ATP livestream channel is instead showing the standard fixed webcam - no commentary stream).

Just another symptom of the full-fledged mass hysteria known as Sinnermania.
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
Sinner's match vs Marcora is being broadcast live on national TV in Italy, with a real multi-camera production, replays and commentary. It should be visible to all on Supertennis.tv and their Facebook page (the ATP livestream channel is instead showing the standard fixed webcam - no commentary stream).

Just another symptom of the full-fledged mass hysteria known as Sinnermania.
Moved to Italy; now I'm watching.:D

I can't cast this from my Ipad to my AppleTV4K because its not in Italy. The regular feeds are just the bad challenger feed with very limited cameras. Super Tennis feed on the site not the highest quality. How else does one watch SuperTennis.TV in Italy? Sinner TV needs to be at least 1080p @Baseline_Bungle .:p
 
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Moved to Italy; now I'm watching.:D

I can't cast this from my Ipad to my AppleTV4K because its not in Italy. The regular feeds are just the bad challenger feed with very limited cameras. Super Tennis feed on the site not the highest quality. How else does one watch SuperTennis.TV in Italy? Sinner TV needs to be at least 1080p @Baseline_Bungle .:p
Supertennis is a regular TV channel, available on digitale terrestre (our "basic cable", I believe on channel 64 or something) and our Sky satellite lineup (224). I just doubt it's available abroad, which is why I provided the online options.

It's basically our tennis channel, although it's directly controlled by the Federation therefore very prone to propaganda and self-celebration.
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
Supertennis is a regular TV channel, available on digitale terrestre (our "basic cable", I believe on channel 64 or something) and our Sky satellite lineup (224). I just doubt it's available abroad, which is why I provided the online options.

It's basically our tennis channel, although it's directly controlled by the Federation therefore very prone to propaganda and self-celebration.
Well I had to set my VPN to Italy to watch your feed, but it was much appreciated. So the Italian Federation propaganda machine doesn't have a mobile app that loyal Italians can use on their phone/tablet?:eek::unsure: Eurosport player in the past could be hacked and paid for in UK plus BBC much harderer. FranceTV for RG works like a charm with right VPN service (Torguard a good one). All the highest quality feeds. Italy is all free which is amazing and a boon to Italian tennis, but Sinner TV deserves betterer.:D
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
QFs vs another fellow Italian, Federico Gaio.

NCH #91; will move to #88 with a QF win. A title this weekend will move him to #78.
 
Interview with the man himself on today's local paper:


I took the time to translate it for you Italianly-challenged Sin-Bin companions:

So far, it's been your colleagues giving interviews about you...
«Are you referring to Djokovic? Yes, I read what he said».
Were you surprised?
«A bit. But I was pleased. He's a legend».
He anointed you...
«I practiced with Nole a few times, we know each other. But my journey is still very long, it will take years to get to the highest level».
In 2020 you'll turn 19. At that age, Federer started winning his first Atp events...
«Roger started and he never stopped. But everyone has their own path, and so far I'm taking it all in stride. That's not my goal for 2020».
What is your goal?
«I need to raise my level and manage to play 60 matches. It won't be easy. It will be very important to have a good winter training camp and get off to a good start in January. That's why, after the tournament in Ortisei, I'm going back to Bordighera to work on my game».
No vacation?
«Meh, I might stick around for a couple of days, and go see my parents up in Sesto. But I won't be stopping for long».
A question for the teen, not the tennis player: don't you miss your youth?
«I don't miss anything, this is the life I chose. In fact, I'm lucky to be able to travel the world and have these kinds of experiences at my age. Then, sure, every now and then you get a little homesick».
What's the first thing you do when you go home?
«I go for a walk in the peace of my mountains. I enjoy seeing my parents and hanging out with my old friends».
Your parents are very discreet. They're nothing like the “tyrant-father” that Agassi describes in his book «Open»...
«They taught me to be independent ever since I was a little boy. They follow my progress, but they don't butt in. They know that's what my coaches are for».
And what do your friends in Sesto say?
«To them, I'm still the same guy. They hardly ever ask me about tennis. We talk about other stuff, and sometimes we still feel like the children who used to go to school together. We also play FIFA on Playstation».
And they said that you don't like soccer...
«I used to play when I was a kid. I did a bunch of stuff when I was a kid...».
In a recent interview, you jokingly said you were a “ball-breaker”...
«When I wanted something, I went and got it. I was the same way with skiing too. But outside of competitive sports, I liked to joke around and play games. In fact, I haven't really changed, away from the court I'm still a big kid, I have a lot of fun and I feel that's the way it should be at this age. Actually, I hope I can remain “a kid” for as long as possible».
Is that your way of relieving the tensions of competition?
«Yes, the more you win and the more pressure you have. Things around you change, even away from the court: interviews, people talking about you. So far, I've been handling everything fairly well».
After your breakthrough in Antwerp and your triumph in Milan, the pressure on you is enormous...
«That's to be expected, it's all about dealing with it in the best way possible. Much has changed around me, but I haven't changed».
But you've been spoiling us, and now the expectations are great. Isn't that dangerous?
«I understand that once you start winning, then it seems weird when you lose. And some people may even start criticizing you, without realizing how difficult our sport is. The solution is to simply not give a damn and just focus on what you're doing».
2019 was also the year of Matteo Berrettini. If you could, what would you «steal» from him?
«His consistency. He's able to sustain a very high level throughout the entire match, while I'm still inconsistent against the top guys. That was evident against Wawrinka at the US Open».
However, you seem to have an innate ability to remain cool and composed in the biggest moments.
«That's thanks to my parents. I get my temperament from them».
Do you realize you're already an icon for Sud Tyrolans?
«I'm starting to realize that here in Ortisei. The people are cheering for me and it's a wonderful feeling. I hope I can repay all this support».
Throughout the country, full-fledged Sinnermania has reached a fever pitch. Many thought you should have been part of the Davis Cup team...
«In Milan, (Italy captain) Barazzutti actually asked me if I wanted to be on the team, but together with my staff we chose to decline. I've played a lot this year and I think now it's best to concentrate on preparing for next year».
In Alto Adige / Sudtirol there have long been talks about dual citizenship. But you feel Italian, right?
«I feel Italian and I am Italian. Totally. Even more so since I've been living in Bordighera. At this point, I probably even speak Italian better than German. I'd love to play the Davis Cup for Italy, and I suppose I wouldn't mind winning it».
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Interview with the man himself on today's local paper:


I took the time to translate it for you Italianly-challenged Sin-Bin companions:

So far, it's been your colleagues giving interviews about you...
«Are you referring to Djokovic? Yes, I read what he said».
Were you surprised?
«A bit. But I was pleased. He's a legend».
He anointed you...
«I practiced with Nole a few times, we know each other. But my journey is still very long, it will take years to get to the highest level».
In 2020 you'll turn 19. At that age, Federer started winning his first Atp events...
«Roger started and he never stopped. But everyone has their own path, and so far I'm taking it all in stride. That's not my goal for 2020».
What is your goal?
«I need to raise my level and manage to play 60 matches. It won't be easy. It will be very important to have a good winter training camp and get off to a good start in January. That's why, after the tournament in Ortisei, I'm going back to Bordighera to work on my game».
No vacation?
«Meh, I might stick around for a couple of days, and go see my parents up in Sesto. But I won't be stopping for long».
A question for the teen, not the tennis player: don't you miss your youth?
«I don't miss anything, this is the life I chose. In fact, I'm lucky to be able to travel the world and have these kinds of experiences at my age. Then, sure, every now and then you get a little homesick».
What's the first thing you do when you go home?
«I go for a walk in the peace of my mountains. I enjoy seeing my parents and hanging out with my old friends».
Your parents are very discreet. They're nothing like the “tyrant-father” that Agassi describes in his book «Open»...
«They taught me to be independent ever since I was a little boy. They follow my progress, but they don't butt in. They know that's what my coaches are for».
And what do your friends in Sesto say?
«To them, I'm still the same guy. They hardly ever ask me about tennis. We talk about other stuff, and sometimes we still feel like the children who used to go to school together. We also play FIFA on Playstation».
And they said that you don't like soccer...
«I used to play when I was a kid. I did a bunch of stuff when I was a kid...».
In a recent interview, you jokingly said you were a “ball-breaker”...
«When I wanted something, I went and got it. I was the same way with skiing too. But outside of competitive sports, I liked to joke around and play games. In fact, I haven't really changed, away from the court I'm still a big kid, I have a lot of fun and I feel that's the way it should be at this age. Actually, I hope I can remain “a kid” for as long as possible».
Is that your way of relieving the tensions of competition?
«Yes, the more you win and the more pressure you have. Things around you change, even away from the court: interviews, people talking about you. So far, I've been handling everything fairly well».
After your breakthrough in Antwerp and your triumph in Milan, the pressure on you is enormous...
«That's to be expected, it's all about dealing with it in the best way possible. Much has changed around me, but I haven't changed».
But you've been spoiling us, and now the expectations are great. Isn't that dangerous?
«I understand that once you start winning, then it seems weird when you lose. And some people may even start criticizing you, without realizing how difficult our sport is. The solution is to simply not give a damn and just focus on what you're doing».
2019 was also the year of Matteo Berrettini. If you could, what would you «steal» from him?
«His consistency. He's able to sustain a very high level throughout the entire match, while I'm still inconsistent against the top guys. That was evident against Wawrinka at the US Open».
However, you seem to have an innate ability to remain cool and composed in the biggest moments.
«That's thanks to my parents. I get my temperament from them».
Do you realize you're already an icon for Sud Tyrolans?
«I'm starting to realize that here in Ortisei. The people are cheering for me and it's a wonderful feeling. I hope I can repay all this support».
Throughout the country, full-fledged Sinnermania has reached a fever pitch. Many thought you should have been part of the Davis Cup team...
«In Milan, (Italy captain) Barazzutti actually asked me if I wanted to be on the team, but together with my staff we chose to decline. I've played a lot this year and I think now it's best to concentrate on preparing for next year».
In Alto Adige / Sudtirol there have long been talks about dual citizenship. But you feel Italian, right?
«I feel Italian and I am Italian. Totally. Even more so since I've been living in Bordighera. At this point, I probably even speak Italian better than German. I'd love to play the Davis Cup for Italy, and I suppose I wouldn't mind winning it».
What a wise old kid!!!

I thought it would be impossible to be more of a Sinnermaniac. I was wrong!!!
 

James P

Hall of Fame
I thought that perhaps Sinner was going to drop his first set at Ortisei, but he got the break back in the 2nd. Score is 6-3 3-4 serving right now. The two players are a combined 3/3 on break point chances, otherwise remarkably chalk on service games.
 

James P

Hall of Fame
Hoang had Sinner on the ropes in his final service game, up a triple break point, before Sinner reeled off 5 straight points to close the game. Then won the tiebreaker 7-4. Final score 6-3 7-6 and into the final at Ortisei!
 

James P

Hall of Fame
Bit of a shame he hits this form this late in the season.
The offseason he has prepared sounds less like an offseason and more like boot camp. Here's hoping he keep up his form come January. I'd love to see some good penetration into a major this season. Maybe something like 4R-3R-3R-2R would be a successful first full year at the majors.
 
The offseason he has prepared sounds less like an offseason and more like boot camp. Here's hoping he keep up his form come January. I'd love to see some good penetration into a major this season. Maybe something like 4R-3R-3R-2R would be a successful first full year at the majors.
Might cool off a bit in the open air - clearly, the indoor hard courts are his natural environment.

Still, this young evil-doer is very obviously going places. Major places.

A question for you all-knowing experts of tennis history and statistics:

How does his mind-boggling rise up the rankings (770 to 80 in 12 months, 550 to 80 in 8) stack up against other meteoric ascents?

And also, does he win the Newcomer of the Year award?
 

James P

Hall of Fame
Lleyton Hewitt started out 1998 at 550 and finished it at 100. The only person that comes to mind but very similar.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Might cool off a bit in the open air - clearly, the indoor hard courts are his natural environment.

Still, this young evil-doer is very obviously going places. Major places.

A question for you all-knowing experts of tennis history and statistics:

How does his mind-boggling rise up the rankings (770 to 80 in 12 months, 550 to 80 in 8) stack up against other meteoric ascents?

And also, does he win the Newcomer of the Year award?
Newcomers have to enter top 100 for the first time and then make “the most impact.” By that definition, Felix (#106 YE 2018) will snag that one.

As to the outdoor factor, thankfully Piatti steered him to the NA outdoor venues this summer so his first taste of heat won’t be Down Under. I hope he gets some warm, not hot, weather in Doha to transition smoothly.
 
Newcomers have to enter top 100 for the first time and then make “the most impact.” By that definition, Felix (#106 YE 2018) will snag that one.

As to the outdoor factor, thankfully Piatti steered him to the NA outdoor venues this summer so his first taste of heat won’t be Down Under. I hope he gets some warm, not hot, weather in Doha to transition smoothly.
Ah, yes... forgot Felix, what with the injury and the fact that, you know, he's kinda been around forever...

And to think the two of them coulda been squaring off come Monday... oh well, I'm sure we'll get to see it soon enough.
 
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