Forgive Me, Father, For I Am a Full Fledged Sinner!

James P

Hall of Fame
I was under the impression they were getting rid of the ATP points for ITF events next year. Did that change?
 

James P

Hall of Fame
I counted 53 points lost across roughly 8-10 tourneys for Sinner in the last year. Those probably won't all go towards his new total, but 34 is from two tourneys alone.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Aptos is indeed a different level, but frankly I wouldn't be shocked if he pulled out - especially having to play that extra round as early as tomorrow, or Tuesday at the latest...

I also believe his ranking will be higher than what has been reported, thanks to the ITF point "restitutions" which should come into effect tomorrow.


But it seems like nobody really knows for sure what the heck is going on there, so I guess we'll just have to wait and see...
Left foot “injury” that Cation the commentator continued to ramble on about, sometimes erroneously (Jannik retied his shoe once when he said he was grabbing the foot)???
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Sinners rejoice! Jannik has taken the first set, 6-4. The serve is much improved today and his return game earned two breaks to 4-1 before a sloppy service game let Bolt cut the lead. Jannik rebounded to serve it out with two more holds.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Sinners weep! Bolt raised his game, especially on serve and Jannik had a one-game walkabout at 2-3 with 2 DFs and 2 routine FHs dumped into the net.

Going three.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Sinners rejoice! Jannik wins his second Challenger title 6-4 4-6 6-4.

The third set featured Jannik jumping to a 3-0 (one break) lead, then steady play from both to take it to 5-3 on the Sinful Serve. Bolt had great play to fight off two CPs before breaking. The second CP saved was a very lengthy rally that tapped Sinner for the next two points. At 4-5, Bolt looked to get an easy hold after a blown Sinner sitter at the net. Jannik gave a sarcastic (y) to his coaches and, as he often is prone to do, bounced right back to force deuce and then a BP/CP saved by Bolt. Another solid return point got a 4th opportunity FTW and Bolt obliged with a DF.

Forza Testarossa!
 
Figured he'd squeeze one more in before he turned of age...

Serve is a mess, forehand's shaky, can't play at the net, can't hit a slice, no plan B, zero tactical awareness, hands as soft as a brick, and he can't close off a match to save his life. And yet here he is, 17 and knockin' at the door of the big boys. I guess if he fixes a couple of things along the way, he's in pretty decent shape... ;)
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Figured he'd squeeze one more in before he turned of age...

Serve is a mess, forehand's shaky, can't play at the net, can't hit a slice, no plan B, zero tactical awareness, hands as soft as a brick, and he can't close off a match to save his life. And yet here he is, 17 and knockin' at the door of the big boys. I guess if he fixes a couple of things along the way, he's in pretty decent shape... ;)
That power slider serve on deuce court was unreturnable!

Return game was good today with a lot of balls landing deep to the baseline a la Joe Kovic. Also, I liked his BH CC. He lost some points on it due to Bolt’s FH strength but he kept going there rather than monotonously attacking the lefty’s BH.
 
That power slider serve on deuce court was unreturnable!

Return game was good today with a lot of balls landing deep to the baseline a la Joe Kovic. Also, I liked his BH CC. He lost some points on it due to Bolt’s FH strength but he kept going there rather than monotonously attacking the lefty’s BH.
LOL ya, I was being (half) facetious. He clearly has TONS of areas for improvement, but if he so much as keeps the ball in the court, he's already pretty tough to handle. BTW, rankings are in and with the old ITF points he is indeed up to 135.

As Joe Kovic himself would say, NOT TOOO BAAD!
 
In keeping with the natural order of things, the Sinner is headed to California.

In a post-match interview with Mike Cation, Jannik has confirmed he will play Aptos then take a week off before USO qualies. He mentioned he MIGHT go to Cincinnati, but only to practice - which I suppose ends any speculation about a possible wild card (or is he being hush hush?).

He also said he would celebrate his Lexington win by playing a round of minigolf against his coaches. Sounds like this kid enjoys the competition :)
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Sinners rejoice! The 1R win came against LL Sam Verbeek instead of sore back Maverick Banes and it still wasn’t easy shaking off jet lag in the 3-6 7-6(3) 6-2 victory. By the third set he had raised his service game to 95% points won from a woeful mid-50s% in the first set.

American Björn next...he won’t get away with another slow start.
 
Gianni looked super-sluggish today. Jet lag? Fatigue? The millions of dollars of prize money from his Lexington triumph? Whatever the case, it was probably his worst outing in recent memory. Timing was totally off, and he just could not get the hang of Verbeek's (???) lefty serve. He did, however, display one quality that will come in handy in years to come: he really, really doesn't like to lose.

Up next, a fascinating matchup (at least semantically) between an Italian named "sinner" and an American named "fratangelo" (namely "friar-angel" in Italian)
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
In keeping with the natural order of things, the Sinner is headed to California.

In a post-match interview with Mike Cation, Jannik has confirmed he will play Aptos then take a week off before USO qualies. He mentioned he MIGHT go to Cincinnati, but only to practice - which I suppose ends any speculation about a possible wild card (or is he being hush hush?).

He also said he would celebrate his Lexington win by playing a round of minigolf against his coaches. Sounds like this kid enjoys the competition :)
He has plans to visit Cincinnati to commemorate the 10th anniversary of The Real Slam, no?

It might not be a bad idea just to get used to the fastest HC in the USO Series that he will hopefully be a full fledged Sinner participant in as early as 2020!
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
All tennis is done at Aptos. They're giving this Sinner-Fratangelo match the center court treatment.
There is one dubs match to finish on CC and another one just starting on Court 5. That should be far enough away to avoid that carnival atmosphere at Lexington with both championship matches going on side by side.
 

James P

Hall of Fame
There is one dubs match to finish on CC and another one just starting on Court 5. That should be far enough away to avoid that carnival atmosphere at Lexington with both championship matches going on side by side.
Oh, I just realized my app (that I'm following along on) doesn't show doubles matches. I'm not big on doubles anyway, but that's pretty odd.
 

James P

Hall of Fame
Not watching, but following along. Both held serve through 4's and then there were 4 consecutive breaks and we are at a 6-6 TBer.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Sinners weep tonight that the friar’s angel bested our Sinner, 7-6 6-3. Trouble jumped up to bite the youngster late in the first set and early in the second, dropping serves three times but fighting back twice for breaks to force the TB. There was no reciprocal break the third time.

Serve was good but his return game was almost non existent the last half of the second set.

Work to do after this 7-2 NA HC Challenger tour. USO Qualies are two weeks away.
 

Joseph_K

Professional
Although at this precise moment in time Jannik Sinner is probably in New York preparing for next week's U.S.Open qualifying, it is just past one o'clock on Friday morning in his native Italy. In that respect it's not too early to wish him a happy eighteenth birthday.
 
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Zardoz7/12

Professional
He's currently 130th in the World, I saw highlights of him at Lexington and he reminds me of Seppi (Nothing to do with Nationality) in the way he takes his backhand and forehand which isn't a bad thing, I mean Seppi has a solid backhand.

Italian Men's tennis is on the up, I mean Cecchinato is on a 7 match losing streak but there's Berrettini, Sonego, Fognini, Seppi, Travaglia and Fabbiano in the top 100, with a load of Italian players between 100-200th.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
He's currently 130th in the World, I saw highlights of him at Lexington and he reminds me of Seppi (Nothing to do with Nationality) in the way he takes his backhand and forehand which isn't a bad thing, I mean Seppi has a solid backhand.

Italian Men's tennis is on the up, I mean Cecchinato is on a 7 match losing streak but there's Berrettini, Sonego, Fognini, Seppi, Travaglia and Fabbiano in the top 100, with a load of Italian players between 100-200th.
Wearing the same Nike kit, smacking God mode FHs and 2HBHs, being tall and lean and topping off with the ginger mop, it’s going to be easy to mistake Sinner for Russian Money Rublev. Now all he needs is that first career win vs an ATG.

Happy 18th birthday on Friday, Jannik!
 

James P

Hall of Fame
Looking at the qualifier list for the USO, and it looks like our boy is gonna be seeded during qualifying. Unfortunately, he'll be the lower seed in his octet, but still round about 22-24, I'd guess.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
No offense meant to veteran Italian Matteo Viola but I’m hoping Jannik can become the third teen (Popyrin, Korda) to beat him this year when qualifying at USO kicks off on Monday.

Sinner is the lower of the two seeds in his pod. #10 seed Taro Daniel outranks him and they would play the final round if both advance.
 

Joseph_K

Professional
Un giovane in fretta, earlier today Jannik Sinner beat his compatriot Matteo Viola 6-1, 6-0 in the first round of qualifying for this year's U.S. Open. In the second round Sinner will play either the Australian John-Patrick Smith or Viktor Galovic of Croatia.
 

James P

Hall of Fame
Un giovane in fretta, earlier today Jannik Sinner beat his compatriot Matteo Viola 6-1, 6-0 in the first round of qualifying for this year's U.S. Open. In the second round Sinner will play either the Australian John-Patrick Smith or Viktor Galovic of Croatia.
Top seed (of his group) Taro Daniel just fell. Path is perhaps even more cleared. Just have to grab it
 

gogo

Hall of Fame
Top seed (of his group) Taro Daniel just fell. Path is perhaps even more cleared. Just have to grab it
I'm cheering for the Sinner!
(I'm going to US Open on Monday. Maybe I'll catch a glimpse of him if he makes it through, although my family will likely vote to watch others that they know. )
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
I'm cheering for the Sinner!
(I'm going to US Open on Monday. Maybe I'll catch a glimpse of him if he makes it through, although my family will likely vote to watch others that they know. )
Deep down, I always knew you were a Sinner! Gogo there, girl!
 

James P

Hall of Fame
The mad lad did it, surviving another round 4-6 7-6 7-5. He was down 5-2 in the final set but reeled off 5 straight games.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
The mad lad did it, surviving another round 4-6 7-6 7-5. He was down 5-2 in the final set but reeled off 5 straight games.
Who has a chance vs a Sinner with a cause???

Hopefully, there’s more sin in the tank for the final stage...Vilella Martinez also went three.
 
Who has a chance vs a Sinner with a cause???

Hopefully, there’s more sin in the tank for the final stage...Vilella Martinez also went three.
Sources on location report that Sinner was visibly hindered by a back injury throughout the entire match (the link is below, for anyone familiar with Italian or willing to give Google Translate a whirl).

Apparently, the issue severely impacted his serve, with his second serve never even reaching 75 mph. It should also be noted that he was facing his good friend/mentor/training partner Vittorione Galovic, who is now representing birth-country Croatia but is by all intents and purposes an Italian. In light of the above, the Sinner's 3-hour comeback win from 2-5 down in third, after saving 2 match points, takes on truly epic proportions.

Hopefully, Gianni Boy can dig deep one more time tonight, as he would then have a few days off to try and recover before the MD... Sadly, the evil organizers have ONCE AGAIN scheduled him on one of the non-televised courts :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Sources on location report that Sinner was visibly hindered by a back injury throughout the entire match (the link is below, for anyone familiar with Italian or willing to give Google Translate a whirl).

Apparently, the issue severely impacted his serve, with his second serve never even reaching 75 mph. It should also be noted that he was facing his good friend/mentor/training partner Vittorione Galovic, who is now representing birth-country Croatia but is by all intents and purposes an Italian. In light of the above, the Sinner's 3-hour comeback win from 2-5 down in third, after saving 2 match points, takes on truly epic proportions.

Hopefully, Gianni Boy can dig deep one more time tonight, as he would then have a few days off to try and recover before the MD... Sadly, the evil organizers have ONCE AGAIN scheduled him on one of the non-televised courts :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Molto grazie, amico!

I’ll pray for the back to improve.
 

James P

Hall of Fame
Sources on location report that Sinner was visibly hindered by a back injury throughout the entire match (the link is below, for anyone familiar with Italian or willing to give Google Translate a whirl).

Apparently, the issue severely impacted his serve, with his second serve never even reaching 75 mph. It should also be noted that he was facing his good friend/mentor/training partner Vittorione Galovic, who is now representing birth-country Croatia but is by all intents and purposes an Italian. In light of the above, the Sinner's 3-hour comeback win from 2-5 down in third, after saving 2 match points, takes on truly epic proportions.

Hopefully, Gianni Boy can dig deep one more time tonight, as he would then have a few days off to try and recover before the MD... Sadly, the evil organizers have ONCE AGAIN scheduled him on one of the non-televised courts :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Some interesting context I wasn't even aware of. Hope the kid's back holds up during Q3.
 

Joseph_K

Professional
Yes, the Italian article mentioned above says that Jannik Sinner was quite tense at the start of the match and was probably psychologically affected by the fact that his back was giving him problems. He was broken in the very first game and Viktor Galovic eventually won the first set, 6-4.

However, at the beginning of the second set Sinner started to play much better and broke Galovic’s serve to lead 4-2 before holding his own for 5-2. But then Sinner’s back started to give him problems, and he lost three games in a row as Galovic levelled at 5-all. Sinner then held to 6-5 and had two set points on his opponent’s serve in the next game but couldn’t convert either of them. Nevertheless the Italian easily won the ensuing tiebreak – by 7 points to 2 – thanks to some great forehands.

Sinner, who had had a medical timeout at 5-4 in the second set, had more problems at the start of the third set. Galovic built a 5-2 lead in that final set and, after coming back from 0-40 in the eighth game, had two match points on his own serve. However, at that point the Croat began to wobble and the Italian, reacting correspondingly, began to find some form again.

Showing great mental strength and audibly urging himself on, Sinner came back to level the score at 5-all in the third set. In the next game Galovic served two double faults to go down 5-6 and leave the Italian serving for the match. In the twelfth and final game Sinner had to save two break points before holding for a memorable 4-6, 7-6(2), 7-5 victory.
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Sparlingo

Hall of Fame
Yes, the Italian article mentioned above says that Jannik Sinner was quite tense at the start of the match and was probably psychologically affected by the fact that his back was giving him problems. He was broken in the very first game and Viktor Galovic eventually won the first set, 6-4.

However, at the beginning of the second set Sinner started to play much better and broke Galovic’s serve to lead 4-2 before holding his own for 5-2. But then Sinner’s back starred to give him problems, and he lost three games in a row as Galovic levelled at 5-all. Sinner then held to 6-5 and had two set points on his opponent’s serve in the next game but couldn’t convert either of them. Nevertheless the Italian easily won the ensuing tiebreak – by 7 points to 2 – thanks to some great forehands.

Sinner, who had had a medical timeout at 5-4 in the second set, had more problems at the start of the third set. Galovic built a 5-2 lead in that final set and, after coming back from 0-40 in the eighth game, had two match points on his own serve. However, at that point the Croat began to wobble and the Italian, reacting correspondingly, began to find some form again.

Showing great mental strength and audibly urging himself on, Sinner came back to level the score at 5-all in the third set. In the next game Galovic served two double faults to go down 5-6 and leave the Italian serving for the match. In the twelfth and final game Sinner had to save two break points before holding for a memorable 4-6, 7-6(2), 7-5 victory.
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I miss the like button for such a good post.
 

albertobra

Hall of Fame
Yes, the Italian article mentioned above says that Jannik Sinner was quite tense at the start of the match and was probably psychologically affected by the fact that his back was giving him problems. He was broken in the very first game and Viktor Galovic eventually won the first set, 6-4.

However, at the beginning of the second set Sinner started to play much better and broke Galovic’s serve to lead 4-2 before holding his own for 5-2. But then Sinner’s back started to give him problems, and he lost three games in a row as Galovic levelled at 5-all. Sinner then held to 6-5 and had two set points on his opponent’s serve in the next game but couldn’t convert either of them. Nevertheless the Italian easily won the ensuing tiebreak – by 7 points to 2 – thanks to some great forehands.

Sinner, who had had a medical timeout at 5-4 in the second set, had more problems at the start of the third set. Galovic built a 5-2 lead in that final set and, after coming back from 0-40 in the eighth game, had two match points on his own serve. However, at that point the Croat began to wobble and the Italian, reacting correspondingly, began to find some form again.

Showing great mental strength and audibly urging himself on, Sinner came back to level the score at 5-all in the third set. In the next game Galovic served two double faults to go down 5-6 and leave the Italian serving for the match. In the twelfth and final game Sinner had to save two break points before holding for a memorable 4-6, 7-6(2), 7-5 victory.
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WOW
 

albertobra

Hall of Fame
Tomorrow Yannik will play Wawrinka on USO 1st round main draw. Amzing for such a young kid play a multiple slam winner on a such big stage!
 
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