Frame Compression from stringing

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
#2
1/8" is not much at all but frames do get deformed while stringing especially when there is a big difference between the main cross tension. One way to solve a lot of that is to use the Stringway online tension advisor.
 
#3
1/8" is not much at all but frames do get deformed while stringing especially when there is a big difference between the main cross tension. One way to solve a lot of that is to use the Stringway online tension advisor.
While I agree it happens, but if you read the MRT types on these forums, they would be required to redo the racquet with ANY kind of deformation. How can that kind of deformation happen on the pro tour especially when the tension is the same on mains and crosses?

Shouldnt they have restrung the racquet?
 

Irvin

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#4
While I agree it happens, but if you read the MRT types on these forums, they would be required to redo the racquet with ANY kind of deformation. How can that kind of deformation happen on the pro tour especially when the tension is the same on mains and crosses?

Shouldnt they have restrung the racquet?
It could be the racket was 1/8” short because it started that way. It could be that what nasal wanted also.
 
#5
Crosses going in tighten the mains as well. So there just isn't an equal counter to that 1st main load.

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am1899

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#9
When you referred to “pro tour” and “pro stringers” I thought you were taking about stringers who string for touring professionals. In which case, I stand by my comment - I can’t imagine those guys and gals being paranoid about frame deformation.

If you’re bringing retail and hobby stringers into the mix, along with recreational tennis players...that’s an entirely different animal, IMHO.
 
#10
When you referred to “pro tour” and “pro stringers” I thought you were taking about stringers who string for touring professionals. In which case, I stand by my comment - I can’t imagine those guys and gals being paranoid about frame deformation.

If you’re bringing retail and hobby stringers into the mix, along with recreational tennis players...that’s an entirely different animal, IMHO.
You were right. I did mean pro tour stringers in that that is where the evidence of distortion came from. But there IS a sentiment here that frame distortion is bad and specifically a sign of a bad string job. Like the kind you have to redo. @USPTARF97 notably has a big issue with frame distortion and IMHO so do the usual suspects here. I wonder if @Rabbit @jim e @Irvin etc. are paranoid about deformation and would start over. So when I saw that it was happening on the PRO tour, it made me wonder.

Now I hear its nothing to worry about. Which I already knew...
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
#11
@Shroud sorry if I misled you but I’m not paranoid about frame distortion. If a frame come out with distortion strung to what the customer wanted if it perfectly fine with me. There was someone on here that had a frame that was compressed 1/2” using a white Wilson racket Stephanie Graffiti using to play with. He even came to my home and used my machine to string his same with the same result. That bothered him. He ended up using the Stringway TA and it resolved his problem.

I would think if you strung the mains on any racket at 86 and crosses at 50 you would deform the racket. If that tension difference is what the customer wants that’s fine.
 
#12
I would say that most pro stringers just string the way the player wants, and do not worry about hoop compression.
I like this statement best!!

@Shroud
like mentioned, pro stringers and people who care/know, would worry more about "equal pressure", on both left/right sides of the frame and eventually top/down stringing, best practices
as you know, uneven preassure can cause a bad outcome to a string job, both in feel and frame "deformation",
the hoop compression can be managed/mitigated/enhanced by the tension chosen from the start "by the client",,
your tension differences always freak me out, (not gonna lie), but i would string "your racquet", at the tension you specified (even " 86/66 with kev poly), but i would note my disclaimer at time of request!!
 
#13
Not saying it doesn't happen, but I have never seen someone pull out a tape measure and measure a racquet after stringing. At any level of stringing from beginner to stringing room at a pro tournament I have never seen it.
 
#14
I'm an "MRT type" and I don't worry about frame distortion. I mount the racquet correctly, string it, and don't give it a second thought. I learned my lesson over 25 years ago when I didn't tighten one of the mounting posts, and turned the head of a Prince CTS Storm into a perfect circle. Never made that mistake again.
 
#15
At the start I worried about this too. My experience after stringing so many racquets now is that some racquets will compress some won't. I have a pair of Bubba 137's that a friend gave me recently. With same strings and tensions one compresses the other doesn't. I think it comes down to QC. For the same model some were done properly some weren't. Until racquet manufacturing is fully automated I think there will always be variances.
 

Irvin

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#16
Never has 2 similar racket compress differently with the same string and tension. I strung 3 wilson clashes Monday and all were the same length before stringing. After stringing one I compared it to the other 2 unstrung and all were the same. After stringing all 3 they were all the same length.
 
#18
The only time I complained as a customer was 25 years ago when I picked up my Profile 2.7 110” from the stringer, supposedly strung with Problend at 78 lbs, and the frame was noticeably lengthened by almost 1/2”. I have no idea how he managed to do that.
 
#21
Never has 2 similar racket compress differently with the same string and tension. I strung 3 wilson clashes Monday and all were the same length before stringing. After stringing one I compared it to the other 2 unstrung and all were the same. After stringing all 3 they were all the same length.
Mine did. Just sharing my experience on these two racquets.
 
#22
The only time I complained as a customer was 25 years ago when I picked up my Profile 2.7 110” from the stringer, supposedly strung with Problend at 78 lbs, and the frame was noticeably lengthened by almost 1/2”. I have no idea how he managed to do that.
stringing crosses from bottom to top can cause this as well
pressure just build up more and more as he went up, and stretched the frame..
is 78lbs outside the recommended tension range for that racquet??
 
#23
In general, racquets with larger head size, especially those with wider (rounder) shape, will compress (shorten) more when you pop them off the stringer.
agree here
several rackets will not have enough material in the frame to take the stress from stringing as well as others
some of the head instinct racquets do this to me often
paying closer attention to the tensions from mains/crosses would minimize the stress
but as many have said, if that's what the "federrer", wants, that's what "federrer", gets!! :)
 
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