Francisco Cerundolo : the older brother's stick

[McEncock]

I am happy to see another young gun with a tremendous game using what seems to be a pt57a under a 360 prestige MP PJ.
He hits a HUGE ball that Vinolas himself couldn't handle.

 

[McEncock]

Do our honorable Head experts have any info? @dr325i @vsbabolat @Howard H

 

[McEncock]

Any info on his set-up, @dr325i ?

 

[dr325i]

Any info on his set-up, @dr325i ?

Looks like the PT57A.
I'll check on the spec details

 

[McEncock]

Thanks!

 

[dr325i]

PT57A2, 18x20, 27.5”
350g, 380sw strung

 

[McEncock]

Yeah baby!!!!!
Monster specs ;D
Thanks a lot @dr325i
If, by any chance, you know which string he uses.... Let us know, please

 

[Jouke]

PT57A2, 18x20, 27.5”
350g, 380sw strung

Holy cow those specs!

 

[jarko111]

What is Juan Manuel's actual racquet?

 

[Rosstour]

Wow. I NEED that Joma henley.

 

[Keizer]

What is Juan Manuel's actual racquet?

I remember seeing Extreme Tour in another thread. TGT348.

 

[haegger]

PT57A2, 18x20, 27.5”
350g, 380sw strung

380 sw!!!! Holy Cheetah!!!

 

[Shaolin]

380 sw!!!! Holy Cheetah!!!

Easier on clay where you have 3 days to set up your swing. Lets see him wield that on faster courts

 

[jarko111]

Too true.

Whatever extreme JM is using it's not the frying pan under new paint. It's the newest mold.. I guess the mold since the Touch version/???

 

[dr325i]

Too true.

Whatever extreme JM is using it's not the frying pan under new paint. It's the newest mold.. I guess the mold since the Touch version/???

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/cerundolo-racquet.692049/

 

[McEncock]

Easier on clay where you have 3 days to set up your swing. Lets see him wield that on faster courts

You were saying?
Btw, Muzziah says hello...

 

[rafa_prestige89]

Still the same setup?

 

[Trip]

Bump, for Francisco's victory over Baez. That monster spec seemed to come in handy as he was redirecting Baez's pace and spin and blasting forehand missiles all match long!

A very interesting outlier of the mass movement to lower static and swing weights. Goes to show heavy can still win, provided fitness and mechanics are there.

 

[chrischris]

Bump, for Francisco's victory over Baez. That monster spec seemed to come in handy as he was redirecting Baez's pace and spin and blasting forehand missiles all match long!

A very interesting outlier of the mass movement to lower static and swing weights. Goes to show heavy can still win, provided fitness and mechanics are there.

Heavy stuff. Nice to see him win.. Doesnt his game have a bit of Nole to it?

 

[guanzishou]

PT57A2, 18x20, 27.5”
350g, 380sw strung

Wow that's close to my racquet's swing weight!

 

[FootFault18]

Kirschbaum Max. Power is the string he is using.

 

[McEncock]

Kirschbaum Max. Power is the string he is using.

Thanks!
Do you know his usual tension?

 

[FootFault18]

Thanks!
Do you know his usual tension?

No, sorry. Only found this video.

 

[Arize]

Max power is a really nice string. My guess is he strings it around 55/57 pounds too bad we can’t catch a glimpse on the machine.

 

[velvetsledgehammer]

Very similar to Stan specs.

 

[Trip]

Very similar to Stan specs.

Still a bit different. Stan is wielding a VC95D in standard 27" length, with strung spec of 372g/32.2cm/360sw, so he's got more static weight and less swing weight, plus a bit more open string bed, all of which work better for his OHBH. Francisco's PT57A2 is ~20g lighter in static weight, and would be the same in swing weight (~360), but the extra .5" of length bumps the swing weight another 20 points up to ~380 or so. Both are beastly specs though!

 

[tx10is]

His paintjob looked really good in the sun yesterday

https://imgur.com/a/u48c8LB

 

[aus89]

Stringing Max Power at 53 in Houston

 

[aaron_h27]

380 SW in a 27.5 frame is equivalent to 360 SW in a 27 inch frame in terms of relative power level.

Still very beefy specs though!

18x20 frames often need that high SW and he is a clay courter so his specs make sense.

 

[aaron_h27]

Stringing Max Power at 53 in Houston

That's cool! I never heard of a pro using Kirshbaum Max Power until now.

 

[blackfrido]

That's cool! I never heard of a pro using Kirshbaum Max Power until now.

In Argentina is a very popular brand among tennis pros
Willy Canas used to play with Kirschbaum, I believe Gaston Gaudio too

 

[gino]

In Argentina is a very popular brand among tennis pros
Willy Canas used to play with Kirschbaum, I believe Gaston Gaudio too

always seemed like Argentinian players were the most open to trying various brands

i think gaudio in particular also had runs with Toalson and Luxilon, along with Kirsch as you mentioned

 

[tele]

380 SW in a 27.5 frame is equivalent to 360 SW in a 27 inch frame in terms of relative power level.

what does this mean? do you mean power relative to length?

 

[aus89]

always seemed like Argentinian players were the most open to trying various brands

i think gaudio in particular also had runs with Toalson and Luxilon, along with Kirsch as you mentioned

i think Gaudio was sponsored by Toalson (had the logo on his strings and their yellow grip tape for his tourna grip) but always used Kirschbaum, before eventually switching to ALU towards the end

 

[blackfrido]

always seemed like Argentinian players were the most open to trying various brands

i think gaudio in particular also had runs with Toalson and Luxilon, along with Kirsch as you mentioned

I believe back in the days not all the manufacturers had reps in south America. Kirschbaum was one of the few, that's my understanding in that matter

 

[blackfrido]

i think Gaudio was sponsored by Toalson (had the logo on his strings and their yellow grip tape for his tourna grip) but always used Kirschbaum, before eventually switching to ALU towards the end

you are right about Gaudio. But there were many other Argentineans stringing with Kirschbaum

 

[aus89]

you are right about Gaudio. But there were many other Argentineans stringing with Kirschbaum

yeah Kirschbaum and Luxilon BB Original were definitely regular sights with the Argentinians on tour

 

[Solemn]

I know the Monte Carlo stringing logs say Cerundolo is using Max Power in the mains and VS Gut in the crosses. Are my eyes deceiving but does it look like he's tried gut in the mains in Munich and reverted to poly/gut in Madrid?

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[McEncock]

Looks like full copoly for Cerundogoat

 

[langley]

love to see the prestige doing well!

 

[HeavyHitter]

I know the Monte Carlo stringing logs say Cerundolo is using Max Power in the mains and VS Gut in the crosses. Are my eyes deceiving but does it look like he's tried gut in the mains in Munich and reverted to poly/gut in Madrid?

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No, he was using full max power. That list tennis nerd put out has so many wrong info on it, I wouldn't trust it.

 

[blackfrido]

I know the Monte Carlo stringing logs say Cerundolo is using Max Power in the mains and VS Gut in the crosses. Are my eyes deceiving but does it look like he's tried gut in the mains in Munich and reverted to poly/gut in Madrid?

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he plays Max Power full bed

 

[langley]

Can Cerundolo save the prestige?

 

[vsbabolat]

Prestige is the best

 

[blackfrido]

Prestige is the best

hard to play for the average Joe

 

[vsbabolat]

hard to play for the average Joe

It’s psychological. If you can play with a Blade you can play with a Prestige.

 

[galapagos]

It’s psychological. If you can play with a Blade you can play with a Prestige.

Exactly that is my push ;p I would even argue that it’s easier to play with the prestige pro (than blade 18x20) because it’s more HL and slightly lower sw with thinner beam.

 

[langley]

It’s psychological. If you can play with a Blade you can play with a Prestige.

100%. plus the edge radius on the throat of blades is bad (retail, not pro labs), feels almost like a 90 degree angle in your hand and is super uncomfortable.

 

[blackfrido]

It’s psychological. If you can play with a Blade you can play with a Prestige.

I played with the Blade 18x20 many years loving it. I bought many generations of Prestige’s never hit even one time like I used to with the Blades

 

[langley]

I played with the Blade 18x20 many years loving it. I bought many generations of Prestige’s never hit even one time like I used to with the Blades

sounds psychological. but maybe try the LM radical or YT IG radical. a better blade than the blades imo. it’s what the blade is a rip off of anyhow.