French Open 2008 Mens Final - [1] Roger Federer vs [2] Rafael Nadal

What Will Be the Result?


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fps

Legend
Being married to an elite athlete, my opinion is that you can take an outstanding athlete and drop them into any era, or generation, and growing up with whatever the best equipment is during that time frame, they will excel in an exceptional manner given an opportunity to practice and have good coaching.
awesome, i agree and have thought for a while that this is probably, with a little tweaking, also the definition of a genius- give them a time, a place, and an opportunity and that person would be an outstanding asset for any era in history.
 

anointedone

Banned
Isnt Nadal alone in 2nd in terms of French Open trophies now? At such a young age too, that is incredible. Poopoo to some of the old farts on here who claim Nadal is being overrated in a historical sense on clay by younger posters who disrespect the old gaurd. This is not someone people are inflating wrongly to all-time proportions because he is the best of the current field, or because he is the most recent to win something. Nadal has thouroughly dominated the surface like few ever have for 4 full years at the point in life he is only turning 22. He has 4 title streaks at places like Monte Carlo, the French, 3 title streak in Rome, 2 losses on clay in 3 and a half years. What more does the guy have to do in order to get the respect he deserves, which is one of the very best clay courters in history without question already, if not even the greatest.
 

oscar_2424

Legend
Nadal showed what a class act he is but not overdoing his celebration, he showed a lot of respect to Fed, perhaps some of u guys can copy that and stop so much crap in this forum
 

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
Isnt Nadal alone in 2nd in terms of French Open trophies now? At such a young age too, that is incredible. Poopoo to some of the old farts on here who claim Nadal is being overrated in a historical sense on clay by younger posters who disrespect the old gaurd. This is not someone people are inflating wrongly to all-time proportions because he is the best of the current field, or because he is the most recent to win something. Nadal has thouroughly dominated the surface like few ever have for 4 full years at the point in life he is only turning 22. He has 4 title streaks at places like Monte Carlo, the French, 3 title streak in Rome, 2 losses on clay in 3 and a half years. What more does the guy have to do in order to get the respect he deserves, which is one of the very best clay courters in history without question already, if not even the greatest.
You are so right. I hope everybody is gonna accept it now, Nadal is a pure phenomenon, one of a kind.
 

Shaolin

G.O.A.T.
Q. He is always much better than you on clay. Is he getting closer to you on grass?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, we just played each other once on grass in Wimbledon. We played each other quite a few times on clay. I don't think we've had many matches on hard surfaces this year, but he is improving as a player.

I hope this was a transcription mistake. I'm quite sure they played twice in Wimbledon and those were finals, too. How could he have forgotten?


Remember, its super cool to lose your memory now. Borg is doing it and so most of the tennis world will be following that.
 

anointedone

Banned
You are so right. I hope everybody is gonna accept it now, Nadal is a pure phenomenon, one of a kind.
I totally understand some of the older posters who feel that past players achievements are disrespected at times, and people are too anxious to believe current or recent is automatically the best in history, without even really a broad understanding or knowledge of the past players and their achievements, and the differences in what events were considered important then to now, etc....However this is a totally different situation. This is a guy who has just totally dominated 4 straight years on clay. He has all the biggest titles, except 1 loss at Rome, in those 4 straight years. Done all this at such a young age. He has done pretty much the absolute maximum anyone could done for 4 straight years. This is not some case of direspecting past players, and it is silly to put it in that category as some of the older posters seem to want to. Nadal has fully earned a place at or near the very top of clay court tennis history. Like you said the guy is just a damn phenomenon, there is no other way to put it. His success on other surfaces is also unfairly downplayed by people, just as his historic greatness on clay is by some, and his first slam title on a non-clay surface may not be too far off IMHO.

Lastly the strength of competition argument of todays clay court field which some use against Nadal is so circular, and nobody will ever be able to prove definitively. It is the same with Sampras and Federer arguments. Nobody will ever agree on this, so in the end it is all about achievements, consistency, dominancance, longevity, all of the things a player can control against who is put on the other side of the net. Quite frankly though I cant see how having a 12-time (already) slam champion who was strong enough to make 3 straight French finals (a 4th time playing Nadal himself in the semis) as your main competition is limited competition.
 

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
I totally understand some of the older posters who feel that past players achievements are disrespected at times, and people are too anxious to believe current or recent is automatically the best in history, without even really a broad understanding or knowledge of the past players and their achievements, and the differences in what events were considered important then to now, etc....However this is a totally different situation. This is a guy who has just totally dominated 4 straight years on clay. He has all the biggest titles, except 1 loss at Rome, in those 4 straight years. Done all this at such a young age. He has done pretty much the absolute maximum anyone could done for 4 straight years. This is not some case of direspecting past players, and it is silly to put it in that category as some of the older posters seem to want to. Nadal has fully earned a place at or near the very top of clay court tennis history. Like you said the guy is just a damn phenomenon, there is no other way to put it. His success on other surfaces is also unfairly downplayed by people, just as his historic greatness on clay is by some, and his first slam title on a non-clay surface may not be too far off IMHO.

Lastly the strength of competition argument of todays clay court field which some use against Nadal is so circular, and nobody will ever be able to prove definitively. It is the same with Sampras and Federer arguments. Nobody will ever agree on this, so in the end it is all about achievements, consistency, dominancance, longevity, all of the things a player can control against who is put on the other side of the net. Quite frankly though I cant see how having a 12-time (already) slam champion who was strong enough to make 3 straight French finals (a 4th time playing Nadal himself in the semis) as your main competition is limited competition.
I couldn't agree more. And he's only 22! I can't wait to see how much more he can achieve. I think by the time his career ends, he will have puverized tons of record...
 
M

Morrissey

Guest
Haha! I love how Nadal said he played "almost perfect" tennis today. Lol! He actually could've done better than what he did to Fed today? Now that's scary.
 

herosol

Professional
*sigh*
i didn't think my prediciton of the score would be true.
i thought fed was gonna come out and prove alot of people wrong.

congrats rafa, doing your **** just like you do.
 

lonestar

Semi-Pro
Best Nadal ever vs. worst Federer since 2003 = 6:1 6:3 6:0

Congratulations to Rafa for a well deserved win and an incredible tournament!
Hope my fellow countryman takes the loss like a man and comes back stronger after this terrible loss.
 

cucio

Legend
Match highlights, for those that think Nadal didn't play too good:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pi-Q-276_ns

Watch Nadal serving to Fed's FH around 2:00 (at the beginning of the second set.) I remember at least another instance, but it is not showed here. 100% of serves to Fed's BH is probably a close estimation, but by no means an accurate figure.
 

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
His humility is as stunning as his game! I think he is able to handle pressure so well because he never gets big-headed. He's gonna achieve great things in the future, I'm pretty sure. His tennis is loud , not his mouth.
 

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
I know. I've never understood that as a strategy. Fed is not that great a volleyer. He has some good days, but he isn't consistent, and definitely not under pressure.
Fed is a terrible volleyer under pressure. Some people claim he is the best volleyer in the history of tennis, which I find a pretty extravagant claim.
 

Graf=GOAT

Professional
What is the point of bumping this thread? It's acknowledged that Nadal is clay GOAT. Nadal in god mode against an out of form Federer on clay is nothing to brag about...
 

Goosehead

Legend
I'm going with Nadal in a tough 5 setter. This is one time I hope I'm wrong, but this is just not the year Roger can win the French. I think he'll get it one day, but not in 08. 2009 seems like a good possibility though because he'll have the mono out of his system and he'll be more energized being the all time slams leader by then.
lol wut..this bloke said this before the 2008 final :shock:.

he could see the 2009 winner a year before it happened. :twisted:
 
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