French Open 2010..The seeds and how they will fair

[egn]

This is an interesting grand slam. Since frankly outside of saying who will win, everything else is basically a toss up. The clay season has been quite ridiculous this year with Nadal winning all 3 majors but everyone else doing their best to make the rest of the field look confusing. So lets take a look.

*NOTE* ADDED SARCASM TAGS BECAUSE APPARENTLY IT IS UN OBVIOUS.

1. Roger Federer - Federer still hanging on to that number 1 ranking with incredibly bad performances made everyone realize he is not a joke last week. He took out anyone in his way and once again proved he is number 2 on clay behind Nadal after beating the other top finishing clay courters this season besides the king himself. It is safe to say he is going to most likely at least get to the semis requiring the Federer who showed up at Madrid shows up here.

2. Rafael Nadal - I don't want to be like hey hes the favorite again, but he is undefeated on clay this year...unless a magical upset comes along or Fed manages to play the game of his life it almost safe to say Nadal is about to cement himself as probably the best clay courter of all time in a year or two.

3. Novak Djokovic - Remember last year at this time. Djokovic was going to be the guy to beat Fed and end his streak of finals..how he has fallen. He is losing to Verdasco now regularly on clay..I'm afraid to say it but I don't think Djoker is ready yet. Unless he can fix his serve and get back into his 2008 form we might be lucky to see him get to the quarters if he runs into the wrong 12-16 guy...

4. Andy Murray - No comment. Lets just say I don't seem him defending those quarterfinal points of his.

5. Robin Söderling - He is not making the final again and after the way Wawrinka and Almagro cruised by I think it is safe to say now that his French Open final run was a fluke. He played great tennis on clay for a week, but looking back on it a quarterfinal run would be really good for him. Since he again is showing he is suspect to losses against a lot of guys who many might consider beneath him on clay but are showing to be right on par with him.

6. Andy Roddick -[sarcasm] With the clay field so weak right now If he gets the right draw he could actually make the semis..though highly doubting it..but picture The following his draw consists of say Lopez, Cillic and Murray..with the way those guys have been playing we could have one of the worst semifinalists on clay ever...right up their with Rafter making the semis. [/sarcasm] However I'm banking this unlikely and well see your usual 3rd-4th round showing as Rod wants to get ready to take wimbledon

7. Fernando Verdasco - As much as I hate to say it. Dasco looks good. With the right draw he lands the semifinals easily as long as he keeps his head on straight. Though I'm going to say quarters for him.

8. Jo-Wilfried Tsonga - uhh not well.

9. David Ferrer - Read Dasco.

10. Marin Čilić - If he can ever manage to beat someone in the top 20 again he might do well.

11. Mikhail Youzhny - How did he ever get this high in the seeding..

12. Fernando González - Will he be warmed up? I can't see him going past the 4th round with the little tennis he has played as of late.

13. Gaël Monfils - Quarters most likely he always does well in France and they probably won't slap him in Nadal or Fed's section.

14. Ivan Ljubičić - Read #11

15. Tomáš Berdych - 3rd-4th round.

16. Juan Carlos Ferrero - Sadly he's been exposed and after getting beat down 6-0, 6-3 by a qualifier I think its safe to say he is going to not be the giant everyone thought.

17. John Isner + 18. Sam Querrey -[sarcasm] Skip and go to grass season.[/sarcasm]

19- Nicolás Almagro - Will choke like always.

20 - Stanislas Wawrinka - WINNER...dreaming..reality is 3rd to 4th round.

21- Tommy Robredo See # 7 + 9

22- Jürgen Melzer - I am amazed he remains this high in the rankings.

23- Ernests Gulbis - Probably the most dangerous seed under 15 since Del Po at the 08 US Open. He could easily go to the quarters or semis with a good draw.
24- Thomaz Bellucci - ...nothing really to say

25- Marcos Baghdatis - Hes just awful on the surface

26. Juan Mónaco - 3rd round??

27. Feliciano López - going nowhere fast.

28. Lleyton Hewitt - [sarcasm]will lose to an injured top seed 6-1, 6-3, 6-1...[/sarcasm] 3rd round

29. Albert Montañés -[sarcasm] not important. [/sarcasm] 3rd round

30. Philipp Kohlschreiber - I want to say not important but after what happened last year who knows but I'm just going to say 3rd round.

31. Victor Hanescu - Why are there so many old guys in the top 40 nowadays...

32. Guillermo Garcia-Lopez - No seriously are any of these guys under 25....

Oh and some people found me being a bit mean to the lower seeds here is my justification for basically saying almost nothing about them other than 2nd or 3rd round... http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=4665140&postcount=10

 

[djokovicgonzalez2010]

Disagree about a few, the Youzhny and Ljubo for sure. Youzhny underranked imho. 29 is wrongwrongwrong, he just won a title and has wins over Cilic, Federer this year on clay and took a set off dasco. If you are even a little bit off, Montanes takes advantage like no one else.In general, good job. GGL at 32 should give us a good laugh, the others are okay

 

[jamesblakefan#1]

You say Soderling will be lucky to make the QF yet Roddick can make the SF w/ a grand total of 0 CC matches to prepare? :? And you write off Youzhny who's had a top 5 CC season and say Robredo can make a run?

Could've been a good analysis, but your utter disrespect for the lower seeds (Melzer, Bellucci, MOntanes, Hanescu) ruins it as anyone who's been paying attention knows these guys have had solid CC seasons as well. Montanes just beat Fed and he's 'not important'? Querrey just won a title and Isner made a final and they should skip? It seems like you have everyone not named Nadal or Fed going out 3R. Really weak analysis.

 

[vortex1]

I Lol'd. Roddick making semis in RG? It's would be horrible if that happened. Almost as bad as Sharapova making SFs in RG a few years ago.

 

[Li Ching Yuen]

I have to admit, some of your "in-depth" analysis of a few players were rather dumb to say the least.

 

[djokovicgonzalez2010]

Imma do a thread like this in a few days. I want to see the draw first.

 

[davey25]

1. Roger Federer - runner up

2. Rafael Nadal - champion

3. Novak Djokovic- goes out around round of 16, and this time it wont be a surprise.

4. Andy Murray - Will drop some more points here.

5. Robin Soderling- dropping a ton of points but still will be ranked #8 or #9 it looks like.

6. Andy Roddick - 2nd round around. Last year was a fluke.

7. Fernando Verdasco - hard to say. He could make the quarters or semis. However he seems to be losing steam. It depends on his draw. If he plays someone fairly tough, even if it is someone he has been beating of late, in a slam he will probably choke.

8. Jo-Wilfried Tsonga - early round casualty. Wont repeat last years result (round of 16 either)

9. David Ferrer - If he does not end up in Federer or Nadal's quarter he could make the semis. Could also go out 3rd round to a hot player. He has underperformed at the French thus far, this year it could change, but it might not.

10. Marin Čilić - Not a clay courter. Still might bash his way to the round of 16 or even quarters with the right draw. Seems out of sorts at the moment though.

11. Mikhail Youzhny - depends on his draw. Decent on clay, not great. Somewhere between 3rd round or quarters.

12. Fernando González - Coming in too cold. Round of 16 around.

13. Gaël Monfils - Depends on his draw. If he avoids Nadal and Federer long enough he can go far. Maybe another quarter or semi. There are others besides Nadal and Federer who he might have a tough time beating though.

14. Ivan Ljubičić - Not a clay courter and the Indian Wells nice moment aside not in his prime. 3rd round or earlier gone.

15. Tomáš Berdych - 3rd round about. Not a clay courter.

16. Juan Carlos Ferrero - He tends to have better results at Wimbledon than here these days surprisingly enough. An early round exit.

17. John Isner- depends on draw. Probably not past the round of 16 though.

18. Sam Querrey - Same as Isner.

19- Nicolás Almagro - with the right draw he could do some damage. Anything from 3rd round to quarters is possible.

20 - Stanislas Wawrinka - 3rd or 4th round probably. Usually loses to the first higher ranked guy he plays.

21- Tommy Robredo- past his prime but a grinder. With right draw could claw his way to quarters but likely to go out sooner than that.

22- Jürgen Melzer - Umm 3rd round around I am thinking. I am also surprised he is still ranked this high too.

23- Ernests Gulbis - If he gets a good draw could easily make quarters or semis. Has a chance to do real well. In fact if he ends up in Federer's half and Roger has an off day should they play could even make the final.

24- Thomaz Bellucci - probably 3rd round.

25- Marcos Baghdatis - 1st or 2nd round. sh1tty clay courter.

26. Juan Mónaco - good clay courter. Could make round of 16 or even quarters with great draw. Could go out 2nd or 3rd round just as easily though. Probably doesnt have the game to beat a high seed even on clay, unless he draws Roddick or catches Djokovic or Murray on a bad day (not that unlikely)

27. Feliciano López - meh early round exit.

28. Lleyton Hewitt - early round exit.

29. Albert Montañés - good clay courter. Could do some damage and get into 2nd week with a really good draw. Wont be say beating Federer like he did in Estoril though.

30. Philipp Kohlschreiber - Could pull an upset or two and make a decent run. Wont be in the semis though.

31. Victor Hanescu - Another one I am surprised is still ranked high. 3rd round I guess, though he is probably a clay courter so could take out a softer seed or someone who is out of sorts on the day.

32. Guillermo Garcia-Lopez - Another who probably holds seed, no more, no less. Which means 3rd round unless the seed in his section loses in first 2 rounds or is someone very beatable.

 

[drakulie]

I think Sampras with his stellar ground game has a shot at this years FO.

Davey, what say you??? http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=325038

 

[bolo]

Hmmn, I think murray is in line for another QF, no shame in losing to ferrer a couple of times this season on clay.

 

[egn]

You say Soderling will be lucky to make the QF yet Roddick can make the SF w/ a grand total of 0 CC matches to prepare? :? And you write off Youzhny who's had a top 5 CC season and say Robredo can make a run?

Could've been a good analysis, but your utter disrespect for the lower seeds (Melzer, Bellucci, MOntanes, Hanescu) ruins it as anyone who's been paying attention knows these guys have had solid CC seasons as well. Montanes just beat Fed and he's 'not important'? Querrey just won a title and Isner made a final and they should skip? It seems like you have everyone not named Nadal or Fed going out 3R. Really weak analysis.

The Roddick thing was a joke, it was clearly obvious. I mean if you clearly read to the end it says 3rd to 4th round. I mean really read a paragraph through and turn on your damn sarcasm detector.

Youhzny had a top 5 clay court season. I'm sorry I near fell of my chair. HE DIDNT EVEN MAKE A QUARTER OF A MASTER SERIES. You question me watching tennis and say **** like that. I mean seriously? He won Munich. Oh yea. Thats the tournament of the year right there. He lost to fat man Dave and Llleyton Hewitt this season. Does this sound like top 5 on clay..if the year was possibly 2005 and that was in semifinals of master series, but not in the opening rounds. There is no disrespect towards him, but how on earth at this point he winds up with such a high seed is a really good question. The answer is he has strong points to defend from some good late year tournament runs and withdrawals in the ranks above him. He probably isn't even the 1`th best guy on clay at the moment. I'm too lazy to go pull out 1` names but if you want them that badly I'll give them to you but I'm just going to say uhh Federer, Nadal, Djoker, Ferrer, Gublis, Verdasco, Wawrinka, Monfils, Soderling, Gonzo, Almagro and hell if Davy and Del Po were active it is safe to same them as well. I could also see Murray being better and thats not hard to be as Murray has decent clay results in his past and really other than the title at Munich what has Youhzny done. Top 5 on clay..uhh try the top 5 on clay atm is oh I don't know Nadal, Ferrer, Verdasco, Federer, Gublis/Djokovic. Really whats your case for Youhzny top 5? You're right I was harsh but frankly I don't see more than 3rd round from this guy.

Second Robredo can make a run he has done it 4 times before. He is a solid clay courter and when he is on he can beat most people outside the top 10. THat being said he can make a run. He has done it before after mediocore clay court seasons. Look back into 2005 if you don't believe me. I'll admit he is a bit off form and hasn't played in a while, but I like the guy and frankly he is still solid. Especially with Davy and Del Po missing he could get a bit depper with his slightly higher seed allowing him to face a slightly weaker 3rd round guy.


Oh really when was the last time Melzer, Bellucci, Montanes and Hanescu did damage. Montanes beat Fed? So did Bags on hardcourt. Are we going to call Bags a hardcourt threat yet? Do me a favor explain to me why I believe Montanes should do damage. Is it simply cause he beat Fed? If thats the case then don't call my " in depth analysis " which really wasn't meant to be that and I never say that anyhwere it was just me giving an opinion on seeds crap. You want some in depth anaylsis on Montanes. Its frankly not worth it. YOu have a 28 year old career top 30 guy at his best getting lucky with a big win on an I don't give a crap Fed. You expect me to believe he could take out someone in the top 20 in the French Open? Outside of Marin Cillic who basically anyone right now in the top 50 could beat on any given day cause he is probably on the biggest slid ever who is he going to beat. I mean yea he lost those dominate guys like Jeremy Chardy and Paolo Lorenzi on clay. Theres your real opinion on Montanes. I'm supposed to magically say he is going to do damage.

Oh lets look into your next boy Bellucci. I simply said he will go out in third round...I know he had a solid clay court season, but it was nothing special and frankly nothing really to look into. He had a storng win over Gonzo back in the south american clay court swing and grabbed a title there, but no offense we all know the european season is harder. But frankly Belucci couldn't beat the lackluster Djoker, and Ferrer served him up a bagel. He had no real big wins in Europe since Isner does not count as a huge win, because for it to be big the person has to have had done more on the surface than you yourself.

Mezler..ugh must I continue..for your sake apparently. I remember while back a post that basically summed up Melzers career. When was the last time you worried about Melzer if he was in your draw. I was very impressed with his run in Madrid, but he beat a tired Verdasco who is not going to be the one who shows up in France. Outside of that he had his usual bland clay court season and frankly I don't see a reason to get remotely excited about a guy with a 6-5 record on clay. Especially with 4 wins coming from guys below rank 97. Now if you want to fine. However something is telling me its the same old Melzer and nothing new is going to happen out of this.

Hanescu. So the other guys at least the names you threw out had a decent result on clay this season I mean after all Melzer does have a win on dasco and Montanes does have a win on Fed, Youhzny does have a title but what does Hanescu have? I actually had to go look up his clay court results since at least the first three I knew did stuff but Hanescu I was like huh really now? A 6-2, 6-1 beat down from the hands of Andy Murray...two losses to Stan the Man =D, The best win I could find for him this season was against..Juan Monaco? I'm not going to waste my time.

OH AND AGAIN..THE GODDMAN QUERREY AND ISNER THING WAS A JOKE. Seriously I'm sorry. I'll go slap sarcasm tags everywhere for you. But lets be realistic is it any coincidence the two of them got to the finals in the same tournament where the big seed you know this guy Novak Djokovic was MIA. I like Querrey and Isner I think their good guys, have good games and are great for American tennis, but to predict them to go on any further than say round 3 of the French Open is probably a push. Though this year round 4 with the wonderful void of two of the top clay court guys. I mean not to be at all mean but didn't Querrey just lose to a guy rank 300 in the world on clay whose name nobody here will know without looking up on the atp website. Frankly the two can lose to anyone on clay on any given day. Isner was a point away from losing to Gasquet..and that colombian guy he faced in Madrid. You're right I'll slap some sarcasm tags their and at least give them a serious prediction but frankly its no more than round 4.

 

[egn]

I Lol'd. Roddick making semis in RG? It's would be horrible if that happened. Almost as bad as Sharapova making SFs in RG a few years ago.

He's not point was to show how weak the clay field is..ugh I completely forgot Sharapova made the semis at RG...how the hell did that one happen..but I think if I am correct with her pattern she is due to win RG this year

 

[egn]

Disagree about a few, the Youzhny and Ljubo for sure. Youzhny underranked imho. 29 is wrongwrongwrong, he just won a title and has wins over Cilic, Federer this year on clay and took a set off dasco. If you are even a little bit off, Montanes takes advantage like no one else.In general, good job. GGL at 32 should give us a good laugh, the others are okay

True by judgement on Montanes was a bit harsh I guess I am still a bit bitter that he actually managed to beat Cilic (</3) but then sadly everyone has of late. He could do damaged. I don't see how Youzhny is underranked though. Hes sitting in an 11 seed basically for free. He has no real big wins on clay...unless we count Cilic and he doesn't look any different than the past few years. Sadly his ranking will probably settle by end of the season and he will back outside the top 20.

 

[Li Ching Yuen]

The Roddick thing was a joke, it was clearly obvious. I mean if you clearly read to the end it says 3rd to 4th round. I mean really read a paragraph through and turn on your damn sarcasm detector.

Youhzny had a top 5 clay court season. I'm sorry I near fell of my chair. HE DIDNT EVEN MAKE A QUARTER OF A MASTER SERIES. You question me watching tennis and say **** like that. I mean seriously? He won Munich. Oh yea. Thats the tournament of the year right there. He lost to fat man Dave and Llleyton Hewitt this season. Does this sound like top 5 on clay..if the year was possibly 2005 and that was in semifinals of master series, but not in the opening rounds. There is no disrespect towards him, but how on earth at this point he winds up with such a high seed is a really good question. The answer is he has strong points to defend from some good late year tournament runs and withdrawals in the ranks above him. He probably isn't even the 1`th best guy on clay at the moment. I'm too lazy to go pull out 1` names but if you want them that badly I'll give them to you but I'm just going to say uhh Federer, Nadal, Djoker, Ferrer, Gublis, Verdasco, Wawrinka, Monfils, Soderling, Gonzo, Almagro and hell if Davy and Del Po were active it is safe to same them as well. I could also see Murray being better and thats not hard to be as Murray has decent clay results in his past and really other than the title at Munich what has Youhzny done. Top 5 on clay..uhh try the top 5 on clay atm is oh I don't know Nadal, Ferrer, Verdasco, Federer, Gublis/Djokovic. Really whats your case for Youhzny top 5? You're right I was harsh but frankly I don't see more than 3rd round from this guy.

Second Robredo can make a run he has done it 4 times before. He is a solid clay courter and when he is on he can beat most people outside the top 10. THat being said he can make a run. He has done it before after mediocore clay court seasons. Look back into 2005 if you don't believe me. I'll admit he is a bit off form and hasn't played in a while, but I like the guy and frankly he is still solid. Especially with Davy and Del Po missing he could get a bit depper with his slightly higher seed allowing him to face a slightly weaker 3rd round guy.


Oh really when was the last time Melzer, Bellucci, Montanes and Hanescu did damage. Montanes beat Fed? So did Bags on hardcourt. Are we going to call Bags a hardcourt threat yet? Do me a favor explain to me why I believe Montanes should do damage. Is it simply cause he beat Fed? If thats the case then don't call my " in depth analysis " which really wasn't meant to be that and I never say that anyhwere it was just me giving an opinion on seeds crap. You want some in depth anaylsis on Montanes. Its frankly not worth it. YOu have a 28 year old career top 30 guy at his best getting lucky with a big win on an I don't give a crap Fed. You expect me to believe he could take out someone in the top 20 in the French Open? Outside of Marin Cillic who basically anyone right now in the top 50 could beat on any given day cause he is probably on the biggest slid ever who is he going to beat. I mean yea he lost those dominate guys like Jeremy Chardy and Paolo Lorenzi on clay. Theres your real opinion on Montanes. I'm supposed to magically say he is going to do damage.

Oh lets look into your next boy Bellucci. I simply said he will go out in third round...I know he had a solid clay court season, but it was nothing special and frankly nothing really to look into. He had a storng win over Gonzo back in the south american clay court swing and grabbed a title there, but no offense we all know the european season is harder. But frankly Belucci couldn't beat the lackluster Djoker, and Ferrer served him up a bagel. He had no real big wins in Europe since Isner does not count as a huge win, because for it to be big the person has to have had done more on the surface than you yourself.

Mezler..ugh must I continue..for your sake apparently. I remember while back a post that basically summed up Melzers career. When was the last time you worried about Melzer if he was in your draw. I was very impressed with his run in Madrid, but he beat a tired Verdasco who is not going to be the one who shows up in France. Outside of that he had his usual bland clay court season and frankly I don't see a reason to get remotely excited about a guy with a 6-5 record on clay. Especially with 4 wins coming from guys below rank 97. Now if you want to fine. However something is telling me its the same old Melzer and nothing new is going to happen out of this.

Hanescu. So the other guys at least the names you threw out had a decent result on clay this season I mean after all Melzer does have a win on dasco and Montanes does have a win on Fed, Youhzny does have a title but what does Hanescu have? I actually had to go look up his clay court results since at least the first three I knew did stuff but Hanescu I was like huh really now? A 6-2, 6-1 beat down from the hands of Andy Murray...two losses to Stan the Man =D, The best win I could find for him this season was against..Juan Monaco? I'm not going to waste my time.

OH AND AGAIN..THE GODDMAN QUERREY AND ISNER THING WAS A JOKE. Seriously I'm sorry. I'll go slap sarcasm tags everywhere for you. But lets be realistic is it any coincidence the two of them got to the finals in the same tournament where the big seed you know this guy Novak Djokovic was MIA. I like Querrey and Isner I think their good guys, have good games and are great for American tennis, but to predict them to go on any further than say round 3 of the French Open is probably a push. Though this year round 4 with the wonderful void of two of the top clay court guys. I mean not to be at all mean but didn't Querrey just lose to a guy rank 300 in the world on clay whose name nobody here will know without looking up on the atp website. Frankly the two can lose to anyone on clay on any given day. Isner was a point away from losing to Gasquet..and that colombian guy he faced in Madrid. You're right I'll slap some sarcasm tags their and at least give them a serious prediction but frankly its no more than round 4.

Ignorant is the word that describes you best.

 

[egn]

Ignorant is the word that describes you best.

Really so now that I give in depth analysis backed up with facts I'm ignorant. Am I simply supposed to say anyone who has a winning record on clay is standing a chance at the quarter finals. Did you read my post? Probably not. Do me a favor read it next time. There is only facts in that post exception for my players who are better than Youhzny on clay list which you could consider an opinion. This comes from the guy who claims Nadal would straight set Guga badly on clay. I'm ignorant though.

 

[Li Ching Yuen]

Really so now that I give in depth analysis backed up with facts I'm ignorant. Am I simply supposed to say anyone who has a winning record on clay is standing a chance at the quarter finals. Did you read my post? Probably not. Do me a favor read it next time. There is only facts in that post exception for my players who are better than Youhzny on clay list which you could consider an opinion. This comes from the guy who claims Nadal would straight set Guga badly on clay. I'm ignorant though.

I read your wall of text, twice.

What pains me is that you didn't say anything, you just defended yourself without presenting any reasonable argument.

Gibberish.

 

[AndyArodRoddick]

1. Roger Federer - If he runs to a red hot plalyer or CC player, then i don't see him getting to the final. Expecting QF-SF from him.

2. Rafael Nadal - Winner. No doubt for me.

3. Novak Djokovic- 4th RD OR Q..his form his misery for me atm.
4. Andy Murray - Cant see him get past QF, but i'm rather thinking 4th RD or smthng from him.

5. Robin Soderling- 4TH RD is looking realy possible atm. I can't see him getting past that, with these FO conditions being slower than last year.

6. Andy Roddick - MAYBE my boy can repeat his last years perfomance but only if he gets Lopez or Hewitt in the RD of 32.

7. Fernando Verdasco - Big question to me. He is overplaying with his schedule atm and that may cost him. Still thinking QF or SF for him.

8. Jo-Wilfried Tsonga -Thinking kind a same result as Roddicks for him. R3 or R4.

9. David Ferrer - Very likely SF. Will be a shock if he does not reach QF.

10. Marin Čilić - Same destiny as Roddicks and Tsongas. Same caliber CC player.

11. Mikhail Youzhny - Uhh..3R likely..cant see him getting past that. He also maybe the highest seed to go out in R1 or R2.

12. Fernando González - Mistery. I simply dont know. Just saying R4.

13. Gaël Monfils - If he's hot and fit, he can run forever so ball bashers dont have a chanche against for sure in FO. Expecting QF from him.

14. Ivan Ljubičić - Would be a surprise to see him get past R3. Cant even see him getting that far.

15. Tomáš Berdych - Possible R3-R4 candidate.

16. Juan Carlos Ferrero - I hope he finds that South - American form .With that he must be at QF AT LEAST, but if he plays that vs Giraldo form or anything like that, then 3-4R.

17. John Isner- FO is too slow for him. He is also too slow. He may get upset by some decent returner in R2-R3,

18. Sam Querrey - Better than Isner. Can move a bit better, wich is a key. I think he would be happy with R3.

19- Nicolás Almagro - If his mind don't blow out, then possible QF candidate.

20 - Stanislas Wawrinka - Possible R3 or R4. No QF for him i believe.

21- Tommy Robredo- Well..solid game but no weapons at all. Can't see him get past any other seed, so R3 possibly.

22- Jürgen Melzer - Talented, but mindless. R3?

23- Ernests Gulbis - Well, it's obvious that HE is the threat NO1. I'm just happy that Andy can't get him for R3, cause he is dangerous indeed. Expecting at least R4, maybe QF or even SF.

24- Thomaz Bellucci - R3 looks likely for him. And if he gets Youzhny or Cilic there, he has a very good chanche to get even R4.

25- Marcos Baghdatis - Can't play on clay. R2, if lucky than R3.

26. Juan Mónaco - Hmm..would be a good oponent for Andy Roddick, cause he is not nowhere near the form he was last year. Pusher with no weapons.

27. Feliciano López - Same as Baggy. Exactly same destiny.

28. Lleyton Hewitt - Well i didnt saw the Isner match, but if he managed to beat him 2 and 4, than it must show at least something. R3 is possible.

29. Albert Montañés - Well..Estoril was good, but he'll get NO1-NO4 seed in R3 so its unlikely to get past them. Exept maybe off day Djokovic or Murray.

30. Philipp Kohlschreiber - Can't simply see him past R3 or R4. Kinda shares Berdych CC destiny.

31. Victor Hanescu - Very unlikely he'll get R3. Possibly R2 I think.

32. Guillermo Garcia-Lopez - Kind a Robredo like player. No major weapons, so R3 for him I guess would be niceeee.

 

[egn]

I read your wall of text, twice.

What pains me is that you didn't say anything, you just defended yourself without presenting any reasonable argument.

Gibberish.

Hold on wait...let me get this straight it was asked why I ignored the lower seeds and made sarcastic comments. I brought up their less than stellar clay court results, lack of deep runs in the master series tournaments and in some cases lack of big wins. Yet this is not a reasonable argument at all. I was told why did I say how did Youhzny get so high and I defended it with the fact that he has a small 250 win and nothing more to show than that, and brought up the lack of the top seeds showing up due to injury. Yet this is still not defending my point. I'll admit my Montanes comment was wrong he is definitely important, however when asked to go in depth on a guy like Jurgen Melzer it seems a bit ridiculous. He has 11 matches and is 6-5 on clay. I went in depth it is clear from that there is a reason why I said what I said. I actually have the answer when you draw 4 guys ranked below 97 in two separate tournaments anyone could rank high. What do you want me to do? Tell me? Explain to me what I should have said. Since apparently bringing up the facts about their seasons which was the reasoning for my comments isn't enough.

Sorry the post isn't meant for some college writing class, it was to give a bit of facts to back up my comments on players. Do you want me to break down all of their games next? Say what they look like when they play. Cause the only one there that might be interesting to read is Belucci because he has a nice game, I'm not much a fan of the others.

 

[Cassius Clay]

It almost safe to say Nadal is about to cement himself as probably the best clay courter of all time in a year or two.

If he wins Roland Garros once more (probably this year), he'll be the best clay courter of all time.

 

[egn]

If he wins Roland Garros once more (probably this year), he'll be the best clay courter of all time.

I hate to say it loving Borg and all, but it might be hard to disagree. Hes just not losing on the surface anymore and it is almost getting a bit ridiculous. Unless someone develops a consistent working plan soon he might grab 8 or 9 French Opens. This is of course requiring Nadal's knees show up. I don't want to see him lose cause I would hate to wish that on a player, however I would like to see someone at least put up a fight now and then.

 

[Tony48]

I wouldn't call Soderling a fluke until he flames out early. Like you said, we all expected Nadal and Djoker in the 2009 final. The tournaments before the French Open don't necessarily determine the overall outcome.

 

[Li Ching Yuen]

Hold on wait...let me get this straight it was asked why I ignored the lower seeds and made sarcastic comments. I brought up their less than stellar clay court results, lack of deep runs in the master series tournaments and in some cases lack of big wins. Yet this is not a reasonable argument at all. I was told why did I say how did Youhzny get so high and I defended it with the fact that he has a small 250 win and nothing more to show than that, and brought up the lack of the top seeds showing up due to injury. Yet this is still not defending my point. I'll admit my Montanes comment was wrong he is definitely important, however when asked to go in depth on a guy like Jurgen Melzer it seems a bit ridiculous. He has 11 matches and is 6-5 on clay. I went in depth it is clear from that there is a reason why I said what I said. I actually have the answer when you draw 4 guys ranked below 97 in two separate tournaments anyone could rank high. What do you want me to do? Tell me? Explain to me what I should have said. Since apparently bringing up the facts about their seasons which was the reasoning for my comments isn't enough.

Sorry the post isn't meant for some college writing class, it was to give a bit of facts to back up my comments on players. Do you want me to break down all of their games next? Say what they look like when they play. Cause the only one there that might be interesting to read is Belucci because he has a nice game, I'm not much a fan of the others.

No, I didn't pick on your writing skills or whatever you're saying there.

Your original post reeked of ignorance, and that is not toward the player assertion, but to your view on the competitional level. You did talk about a grand-slam tournament over there.

To put it in some easy words: With that long-ass post of yours you struck me as one of those MTF posters that only know two words: "mug" and "pusher" and your whole attitude was "Why the **** are they competing anymore?...this guy is gonna win and the rest is a bunch of mugs because they can't even come close to his level of tennis". That was my collective impression upon reading your thoughts in this thread.

Now, take a gander at these stats: http://statracket.net/?view=stats/category.php

You say you watch a lot of tennis, HOORAY, we're all exquisitely happy about that.

Well PROVE IT, make some pertinent observation about the players and maybe then you won't get a reaction like this.


Thank you.

 

[jamesblakefan#1]

Youhzny had a top 5 clay court season. I'm sorry I near fell of my chair. HE DIDNT EVEN MAKE A QUARTER OF A MASTER SERIES. You question me watching tennis and say **** like that. I mean seriously? He won Munich. Oh yea. Thats the tournament of the year right there. He lost to fat man Dave and Llleyton Hewitt this season. Does this sound like top 5 on clay..if the year was possibly 2005 and that was in semifinals of master series, but not in the opening rounds. There is no disrespect towards him, but how on earth at this point he winds up with such a high seed is a really good question. The answer is he has strong points to defend from some good late year tournament runs and withdrawals in the ranks above him. He probably isn't even the 1`th best guy on clay at the moment. I'm too lazy to go pull out 1` names but if you want them that badly I'll give them to you but I'm just going to say uhh Federer, Nadal, Djoker, Ferrer, Gublis, Verdasco, Wawrinka, Monfils, Soderling, Gonzo, Almagro and hell if Davy and Del Po were active it is safe to same them as well. I could also see Murray being better and thats not hard to be as Murray has decent clay results in his past and really other than the title at Munich what has Youhzny done. Top 5 on clay..uhh try the top 5 on clay atm is oh I don't know Nadal, Ferrer, Verdasco, Federer, Gublis/Djokovic. Really whats your case for Youhzny top 5? You're right I was harsh but frankly I don't see more than 3rd round from this guy.

OK so Youzhny isn't top 5 on Clay. I was wrong. Still your total disrespect was unnecessary IMO, sarcasm or not. You must be British with that lame sense of humour.

Second Robredo can make a run he has done it 4 times before. He is a solid clay courter and when he is on he can beat most people outside the top 10. THat being said he can make a run. He has done it before after mediocore clay court seasons. Look back into 2005 if you don't believe me. I'll admit he is a bit off form and hasn't played in a while, but I like the guy and frankly he is still solid. Especially with Davy and Del Po missing he could get a bit depper with his slightly higher seed allowing him to face a slightly weaker 3rd round guy.

You say this isn't 2005, then say look at 2005 in your defense of Robredo. Robredo is done, he's been losing to jokers left and right all season, and his drop in rank reflects that fact. He'll be lucky to get to R3 before getting smashed by the first top seed he faces or even worse losing to some no name in the first 2 rounds.

Oh really when was the last time Melzer, Bellucci, Montanes and Hanescu did damage. Montanes beat Fed? So did Bags on hardcourt. Are we going to call Bags a hardcourt threat yet? Do me a favor explain to me why I believe Montanes should do damage. Is it simply cause he beat Fed? If thats the case then don't call my " in depth analysis " which really wasn't meant to be that and I never say that anyhwere it was just me giving an opinion on seeds crap. You want some in depth anaylsis on Montanes. Its frankly not worth it. YOu have a 28 year old career top 30 guy at his best getting lucky with a big win on an I don't give a crap Fed. You expect me to believe he could take out someone in the top 20 in the French Open? Outside of Marin Cillic who basically anyone right now in the top 50 could beat on any given day cause he is probably on the biggest slid ever who is he going to beat. I mean yea he lost those dominate guys like Jeremy Chardy and Paolo Lorenzi on clay. Theres your real opinion on Montanes. I'm supposed to magically say he is going to do damage.

Oh lets look into your next boy Bellucci. I simply said he will go out in third round...I know he had a solid clay court season, but it was nothing special and frankly nothing really to look into. He had a storng win over Gonzo back in the south american clay court swing and grabbed a title there, but no offense we all know the european season is harder. But frankly Belucci couldn't beat the lackluster Djoker, and Ferrer served him up a bagel. He had no real big wins in Europe since Isner does not count as a huge win, because for it to be big the person has to have had done more on the surface than you yourself.

Mezler..ugh must I continue..for your sake apparently. I remember while back a post that basically summed up Melzers career. When was the last time you worried about Melzer if he was in your draw. I was very impressed with his run in Madrid, but he beat a tired Verdasco who is not going to be the one who shows up in France. Outside of that he had his usual bland clay court season and frankly I don't see a reason to get remotely excited about a guy with a 6-5 record on clay. Especially with 4 wins coming from guys below rank 97. Now if you want to fine. However something is telling me its the same old Melzer and nothing new is going to happen out of this.

Hanescu. So the other guys at least the names you threw out had a decent result on clay this season I mean after all Melzer does have a win on dasco and Montanes does have a win on Fed, Youhzny does have a title but what does Hanescu have? I actually had to go look up his clay court results since at least the first three I knew did stuff but Hanescu I was like huh really now? A 6-2, 6-1 beat down from the hands of Andy Murray...two losses to Stan the Man =D, The best win I could find for him this season was against..Juan Monaco? I'm not going to waste my time.


OH AND AGAIN..THE GODDMAN QUERREY AND ISNER THING WAS A JOKE. Seriously I'm sorry. I'll go slap sarcasm tags everywhere for you. But lets be realistic is it any coincidence the two of them got to the finals in the same tournament where the big seed you know this guy Novak Djokovic was MIA. I like Querrey and Isner I think their good guys, have good games and are great for American tennis, but to predict them to go on any further than say round 3 of the French Open is probably a push. Though this year round 4 with the wonderful void of two of the top clay court guys. I mean not to be at all mean but didn't Querrey just lose to a guy rank 300 in the world on clay whose name nobody here will know without looking up on the atp website. Frankly the two can lose to anyone on clay on any given day. Isner was a point away from losing to Gasquet..and that colombian guy he faced in Madrid. You're right I'll slap some sarcasm tags their and at least give them a serious prediction but frankly its no more than round 4.

Yep, I was right. You are as big of a dvche as you came off as in the OP. No apologies necessary.

Crap threads like this are worthless. Your 'sarcasm' obviously didn't work, and your 'in depth analysis' isn't much better

 

[Speranza]

OK so Youzhny isn't top 5 on Clay. I was wrong. Still your total disrespect was unnecessary IMO, sarcasm or not. You must be British with that lame sense of humour.

Holmes: JBF, am surprised to see criticisms of a xenophobic nature from your good self. I assure you, our humour bounds along at a steady a pace as your own.

 

[Li Ching Yuen]

Holmes: JBF, am surprised to see criticisms of a xenophobic nature from your good self. I assure you, our humour bounds along at a steady a pace as your own.

He's mostly right, but you're right, he should shut up about it. He's American, which is a bit worse.

 

[davey25]

egn has a point. When guys out of the top 30 so regularly beat Federer in best of 3 events it kind of loses any significance. If Federer barely cares about the Masters anymore, how much do you think he really is giving at Estoril. I wouldnt praise Bammer much for beating Serena twice given the general approach Serena often takes to those kind of events either.

 

[Li Ching Yuen]

egn has a point. When guys out of the top 30 so regularly beat Federer in best of 3 events it kind of loses any significance. If Federer barely cares about the Masters anymore, how much do you think he really is giving at Estoril. I wouldnt praise Bammer much for beating Serena twice given the general approach Serena often takes to those kind of events either.

No one criticized him for his views on the Top players.

 

[davey25]

Well what egn is saying is basically beating Federer in Estoril at this point is no great shakes. And it is pretty hard to argue that.

 

[Tsonga#1fan]

This is an interesting grand slam. Since frankly outside of saying who will win, everything else is basically a toss up. The clay season has been quite ridiculous this year with Nadal winning all 3 majors but everyone else doing their best to make the rest of the field look confusing. So lets take a look.

*NOTE* ADDED SARCASM TAGS BECAUSE APPARENTLY IT IS UN OBVIOUS.

1. Roger Federer - Federer still hanging on to that number 1 ranking with incredibly bad performances made everyone realize he is not a joke last week. He took out anyone in his way and once again proved he is number 2 on clay behind Nadal after beating the other top finishing clay courters this season besides the king himself. It is safe to say he is going to most likely at least get to the semis requiring the Federer who showed up at Madrid shows up here.

2. Rafael Nadal - I don't want to be like hey hes the favorite again, but he is undefeated on clay this year...unless a magical upset comes along or Fed manages to play the game of his life it almost safe to say Nadal is about to cement himself as probably the best clay courter of all time in a year or two.

3. Novak Djokovic - Remember last year at this time. Djokovic was going to be the guy to beat Fed and end his streak of finals..how he has fallen. He is losing to Verdasco now regularly on clay..I'm afraid to say it but I don't think Djoker is ready yet. Unless he can fix his serve and get back into his 2008 form we might be lucky to see him get to the quarters if he runs into the wrong 12-16 guy...

4. Andy Murray - No comment. Lets just say I don't seem him defending those quarterfinal points of his.

5. Robin Söderling - He is not making the final again and after the way Wawrinka and Almagro cruised by I think it is safe to say now that his French Open final run was a fluke. He played great tennis on clay for a week, but looking back on it a quarterfinal run would be really good for him. Since he again is showing he is suspect to losses against a lot of guys who many might consider beneath him on clay but are showing to be right on par with him.

6. Andy Roddick -[sarcasm] With the clay field so weak right now If he gets the right draw he could actually make the semis..though highly doubting it..but picture The following his draw consists of say Lopez, Cillic and Murray..with the way those guys have been playing we could have one of the worst semifinalists on clay ever...right up their with Rafter making the semis. [/sarcasm] However I'm banking this unlikely and well see your usual 3rd-4th round showing as Rod wants to get ready to take wimbledon

7. Fernando Verdasco - As much as I hate to say it. Dasco looks good. With the right draw he lands the semifinals easily as long as he keeps his head on straight. Though I'm going to say quarters for him.

8. Jo-Wilfried Tsonga - uhh not well.

9. David Ferrer - Read Dasco.

10. Marin Čilić - If he can ever manage to beat someone in the top 20 again he might do well.

11. Mikhail Youzhny - How did he ever get this high in the seeding..

12. Fernando González - Will he be warmed up? I can't see him going past the 4th round with the little tennis he has played as of late.

13. Gaël Monfils - Quarters most likely he always does well in France and they probably won't slap him in Nadal or Fed's section.

14. Ivan Ljubičić - Read #11

15. Tomáš Berdych - 3rd-4th round.

16. Juan Carlos Ferrero - Sadly he's been exposed and after getting beat down 6-0, 6-3 by a qualifier I think its safe to say he is going to not be the giant everyone thought.

17. John Isner + 18. Sam Querrey -[sarcasm] Skip and go to grass season.[/sarcasm]

19- Nicolás Almagro - Will choke like always.

20 - Stanislas Wawrinka - WINNER...dreaming..reality is 3rd to 4th round.

21- Tommy Robredo See # 7 + 9

22- Jürgen Melzer - I am amazed he remains this high in the rankings.

23- Ernests Gulbis - Probably the most dangerous seed under 15 since Del Po at the 08 US Open. He could easily go to the quarters or semis with a good draw.
24- Thomaz Bellucci - ...nothing really to say

25- Marcos Baghdatis - Hes just awful on the surface

26. Juan Mónaco - 3rd round??

27. Feliciano López - going nowhere fast.

28. Lleyton Hewitt - [sarcasm]will lose to an injured top seed 6-1, 6-3, 6-1...[/sarcasm] 3rd round

29. Albert Montañés -[sarcasm] not important. [/sarcasm] 3rd round

30. Philipp Kohlschreiber - I want to say not important but after what happened last year who knows but I'm just going to say 3rd round.

31. Victor Hanescu - Why are there so many old guys in the top 40 nowadays...

32. Guillermo Garcia-Lopez - No seriously are any of these guys under 25....

Oh and some people found me being a bit mean to the lower seeds here is my justification for basically saying almost nothing about them other than 2nd or 3rd round... http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=4665140&postcount=10

Somebody's "in depth" analysis screams "I state the obvious, I'm full of crap AND take my own opinions way to serious!

 

[Buckethead]

Edited!
Are the seeds posted anywhere?

 

[Buckethead]

Final is Federer VS Nadal.
Upsets can happen either way.
Monfils,Gulbis,Djokovic,Soderling may come up with the goods and make a run.
All the other Spaniards will fall like flies.
Verdasco is the Fiasco
Almagro can't run 4 sets and is too inconsistent.
Robredo,Ferrero and the rest can go to 4th round but only Ferrer can go further.
Upsets to lower seeds will happen in bunches.