French Open 2018 semifinal :- Dominic Thiem[7] vs M. Cecchinato

Match result prediction poll

  • Thiem in 3

    Votes: 35 38.5%
  • Thiem in 4

    Votes: 30 33.0%
  • Thiem in 5

    Votes: 3 3.3%
  • Cecchinato in 3

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • Cecchinato in 4

    Votes: 8 8.8%
  • Cecchinato in 5

    Votes: 5 5.5%
  • Can't say/Confused

    Votes: 9 9.9%

  • Total voters
    91

Gugafan

Hall of Fame
I'm going to go against the flow. I've never been impressed by Thiem's mentality in BIG matches.
And if Marco can handle Djokovic, Thiem should be easier.

The Italian in 4. 4-6,7-6, 6-4, 6-3 for Cecchinato.
Big matches? He beat Djokovic in QF last year and had no wins over him prior to that. On clay he has wins against all the big 4 including Wawrinka.

My feeling about this match?

Cecchinato will destroy Thiem. Well let's be more realistic. Cecchinato will win in 4.

So what will Domi exactly do tomorrow, apart from crushing the ball from behind?
Dominic has alot more variation this year. Watch his deliberate use of the bh slice which was very effective particularly in the first set vs Zverev to draw him into the net. This is something Federer has been using for many years against big guys who want to outhit you from the baseline.

The only way I see Thiem losing the match if he sprays UE and goes off radar which may happen for a set but unlikely over 5.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
I see Cecchinato hit his 1-handed backhand and he can only hit it crosscourt.......... Thiem should take advantage of that. Novak didn't, he needs on court coaching.
 

Pagoo

G.O.A.T.
Thiem should win. Players don't usually back up big upsets. Cecchinato may come in flat on Friday but he has two days off so maybe not.
 

Yoneyama

Professional
I see Cecchinato hit his 1-handed backhand and he can only hit it crosscourt.......... Thiem should take advantage of that. Novak didn't, he needs on court coaching.
Put your glasses on hahaha. Cecchinato hit more ruthless DTL backhands than any other 1hbh player has all tournament. I would rate his backhand over Thiem's anyday after watching him in Hamburg and RG
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
you mean like the match point?;)
1 out of 100 don't count. So so many chances in both tiebreaker for Novak and still not managing to cash in. If Novak wasn't injured on the neck/ shoulder, would this have been a easy win for Novak
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Put your glasses on hahaha. Cecchinato hit more ruthless DTL backhands than any other 1hbh player has all tournament. I would rate his backhand over Thiem's anyday after watching him in Hamburg and RG
He is nothing more than very very poor man's Thiem. That's all.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
You mean he didn't back up the upset of beating Pablo Carreno Busta (10), or the one of Goffin(8)?;)
Weak era draw for a former Challenger drone, no?

Amazing catapult effect that 10-8 fifth set 1R drama vs Copil, just like his journey through the ATP250 Budapest draw from LL, defeating three seeds in a row and surviving two of those from a set down.
 

Red Rick

Talk Tennis Guru
My feeling about this match?

Cecchinato will destroy Thiem. Well let's be more realistic. Cecchinato will win in 4.

I mean, have you all seen how the Italian plays important points? It's surreal. Ace to close first set, and the way he played the set points for Djoko in 2nd set? Amazing, using drop shots and swing volley, and other winners:eek:. And the way he played the 4th set TB, especially from 6 all, that is something unseen!

His BH is absolutely perfect, and he just does everything with it. DTL, Crosscourt with amazing angles, and can spinnit ballon like, and can drop-volley...ohhh what a drop volley..! His serve is very secure and efficient, and very good FH.

So what will Domi exactly do tomorrow, apart from crushing the ball from behind? Let's face it. Game wise, Marco has a huge edge.

But what really could make the difference is how Marco becomes big in important points!
Hit through Ceccs defences where Djokovic couldn't?
 
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Deleted member 756486

Guest
They've both had two very good wins back to back, and Cecchinato looks smart and varied enough that he could mess with Thiem and his one note big time, but I feel like Marco's wins are amplified by the fact that Goffin was having to play back to back days, and Djokovic is maybe not as all the way back as many had started to think.

I think Thiem will probably have too much for him, especially given the nature of their matches today, but I'll be pulling for another miracle performance.
You’ll be pulling for the match fixer who will lay an egg for RAFA in the final? :confused:

You do you. ;):D
 
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Deleted member 756486

Guest
Checc to keep Thiem in his place - a perenial semi-finalist at the only slam he will be competitive at. Although, if Thiem does make it through, it will be thoroughly enjoyable to watch Rafa crush him in straight sets.
Lol the arrogance. :p

Thiem will struggle more in this match than he would against Nadal, if he wins this match then you may as well give Thiem the trophy.
 

mike danny

Talk Tennis Guru
Thiem should win. Players don't usually back up big upsets. Cecchinato may come in flat on Friday but he has two days off so maybe not.
Is beating Djokovic that big of an upset nowadays?

I mean it was still surprising, but in the gran scheme of things, not an enormous one anymore.
 

ibbi

Hall of Fame
You’ll be pulling for the match fixer who will lay an egg for RAFA in the final? :confused:

You do you. ;):D
What makes you think Cecchinato (who had every chance to "lay an egg" in his quarter final and instead rose to the occasion) is more likely to fold like a cheap suit than Thiem, who did exactly that in his semi final here last year, his semi final here the year before, and the biggest final of his year to date in Madrid? I'm rooting for Marco (marginally, It doesn't really bother me who wins) because he's the underdog, because he's displayed a far more varied and interesting game than Thiem, and because in his last match he displayed more balls and brains than Thiem ever has on a stage that big.
 

albertobra

Hall of Fame
Hit through Ceccs defences where Djokovic couldn't?
RR sure. I have followed the Cecc vs. Djoko thread and read it all. Posters talking on about how Djoco is out of form, is not anymore the Djoko of 3 years ago, etc etc.

The fact is that Djoko put up an amazing fight.

Why was he so pissed? Because he knows he played well, he knows he did it right. He is pissed because, him Djoko, playing as Djoko, couldn't come up to a solution to beat Marco! His brain is hot and angry because he cannot understand how he has lost a match even if displaying an excelent quality of tennis. He did what he should have done and the anger comes exactly from here. If he had been playing bad, he wouldn't be so pissed.

So your qestion(Hit through Ceccs defences where Djokovic couldn't?) bring up another one. What could Djoko have done more than what he did to win?

My answer is nothing. He played well. Cecc played better. And Djoko played well the important points (he missed a FH at 9-8 true, his only real mistake), but Cecc played better.
That is why Djoko is absolutely angry. He played a great match, and even so, he lost.
 

Red Rick

Talk Tennis Guru
RR sure. I have followed the Cecc vs. Djoko thread and read it all. Posters talking on about how Djoco is out of form, is not anymore the Djoko of 3 years ago, etc etc.

The fact is that Djoko put up an amazing fight.

Why was he so pissed? Because he knows he played well, he knows he did it right. He is pissed because, him Djoko, playing as Djoko, couldn't come up to a solution to beat Marco! His brain is hot and angry because he cannot understand how he has lost a match even if displaying an excelent quality of tennis. He did what he should have done and the anger comes exactly from here. If he had been playing bad, he wouldn't be so pissed.

So your qestion(Hit through Ceccs defences where Djokovic couldn't?) bring up another one. What could Djoko have done more than what he did to win?

My answer is nothing. He played well. Cecc played better. And Djoko played well the important points (he missed a FH at 9-8 true, his only real mistake), but Cecc played better.
That is why Djoko is absolutely angry. He played a great match, and even so, he lost.
Thiem isn't Djokovic. Djokovic is somewhat easy to slow down cause he doesn't punish you for slicing and he doesn't approach the net if he has you on the run. On clay you're not getting away with slicing vs Dominic Thiem cause he has so much more weight on his shots. Thiem's greatest weakness on clay is returning big serves, and Cecc doesn't serve big at all. Thiem's gonna hit that big kicker + forehand all day long and I don't think there's much Cecc can do. Ceccs only advantage is that he needs less time on his backhand, but he doesn't hit big enough to force Thiem on the back foot I don't think.
 

albertobra

Hall of Fame
Thiem will be dunking donuts in his cappuccino. It's been an incredible tournament for Marcos but it feels like it's time for a little dose of reality
I actually believe it's time to leave reality where it is and get a 'shock' result from a Major, you know, the one the likes Becker 1985 or Guga 1997......
 
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Deleted member 756486

Guest
I actually believe it's time to leave reality where it is and get a 'shock' result from a Major, you know, the one the likes Becker 1985 or Guga 1997......
Thiem winning RG won’t be shocking imo, I'll be more shocked if Nadal wins at this point.

Am I insane? Perhaps, but Thiem will tell. ;)
 

EloQuent

G.O.A.T.
I actually believe it's time to leave reality where it is and get a 'shock' result from a Major, you know, the one the likes Becker 1985 or Guga 1997......
Both those guys were young and went on to impressive careers. Marco C is 25 already. It's too WTA to have him suddenly winning.
 

albertobra

Hall of Fame
Both those guys were young and went on to impressive careers. Marco C is 25 already. It's too WTA to have him suddenly winning.
Today 25 is young. Just think we have "boys" winning slams regularly at 36, impossible 20-30 years ago, as it will be vary rare from now on to win a slam before say....23-24. Look at Zvev, he is just not built enough to taky 7 BO5 matches in a row.
The average peak age today has shifted from 18-23 to 25-30. And today after 30, you still improve tecnically.
 
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