French open draw for federer

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Federer has the easiest french open draw i think he's ever had.

he has 3 opponents in his half that could be worrysome, but none that should challenge him anymore than expected

monfils berdych and wawrinka


while the top half has dimitrov and ferer and murray and djokovic

thats gonna be tough for all, while federer will have the best chance to go for another french title
 
TopFH said:
Problem is, he is no longer 25.
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but thats whats so great about his draw, he wont have to use the same amount of energy to get to the final. and clay is much easier on your body

if he can play like he did in rome and really take charge early in his matches. i suspect he can make it to the finals having played only 7-9 hours
 
He is nr2 in the world and he is 17 time slam champion but he's also 34 and I am interested to see how will he cope with the most demanding ( physically ) grand slam. Also looking forward to him playing a man who turns into a human wall in FO, certain Monflis.
 
Ihatetennis said:
but thats whats so great about his draw, he wont have to use the same amount of energy to get to the final. and clay is much easier on your body

if he can play like he did in rome and really take charge early in his matches. i suspect he can make it to the finals having played only 7-9 hours
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you think clay court matches are shorter on average than matches on other surfaces ?
 
Second career slam is certainly on for him. He knows it.
 
Ha ha Fed is not winning RG whether it's Nadal, Djoko or Murray in final. (Too bad, I would have loved watching MN eat his hat ;))
 
plus, top level federer in this age is enough to make a fool out of lower ranked players. maybe 7 hours was a little ambitious but he can definitly keep his match times well under 2 hours until the quarters, then they will start picking up.

but its about energy conservation in the early matches for him
 
Either Novak or Fed or Nishikori for the title.

Fed orNishikori making the finals is good as this means Rafa cannot sniff top 4 for this year
 
USO 2014 seemed cakewalk after Novak, Murray, Stan lost and Rafa not there. Then what did Fed do ? Also he barely got by Monfils there

After his loss to Seppi, Robredo, Gulbis - be prepared for anything.
 
MichaelNadal said:
I'll post a gif of me eating my hat if Federer wins Roland Garros.
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i've always imagined you wearing something like this. :)

giant-mexican-sombrero-800.jpg
 
tennisaddict said:
USO 2014 seemed cakewalk after Novak, Murray, Stan lost and Rafa not there. Then what did Fed do ? Also he barely got by Monfils there

After his loss to Seppi, Robredo, Gulbis - be prepared for anything.
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cilic played too good, a tall strong player in the best shape of his life is something anyone can be scared of

federer didnt lose that match to himself, cilic just had 1 of the 7 best matches hes ever played, the other 6 in that tournament as well
 
nadal will not make it past quarters, and i wouldnt be surprised with him being upset by almagro

if fed can set up a final with murray i think thats his best chance
 
Nothing is a given at 34. BUT it's better than losing to Nadal/Djokovic on their turf. At least he won't go into Wimbledon with a dented confidence. He can just give it his all here and a good result will do him a world of good at Wimbledon where the stakes are much higher. Winning it would be crazy. Absolutely crazy.
 
veroniquem said:
Ha ha Fed is not winning RG whether it's Nadal, Djoko or Murray in final. (Too bad, I would have loved watching MN eat his hat ;))
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Gotta disagree.

Federer vs Djoko on clay is a 60/40 match in Djoko's favor, they're 1-1 at RG, Djokovic not as good as he was in 2011...

As for Murray, that's 50/50, never met on clay, 12-11 H2H, even matchup.

So if he gets there and Nadal is not there, he has more than a fighting shot.
 
Ihatetennis said:
cilic played too good, a tall strong player in the best shape of his life is something anyone can be scared of

federer didnt lose that match to himself, cilic just had 1 of the 7 best matches hes ever played, the other 6 in that tournament as well
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This is what I love about some fans. They go to such great lengths to deny that their player is fallible even so much as to say they did not lose the match they lost. You can't strip away responsibility from Federer simply because the opponent was playing well. Or else, maybe Federer has 9 Wimbledon titles, 6 Australian Open titles and 6 French Open titles. Federer lost with an easy paper draw. He can do it again. Because paper draws don't mean a damn thing most of the time.
 
Inanimate_object said:
This is what I love about some fans. They go to such great lengths to deny that their player is fallible even so much as to say they did not lose the match they lost. You can't strip away responsibility from Federer simply because the opponent was playing well. Or else, maybe Federer has 9 Wimbledon titles, 6 Australian Open titles and 6 French Open titles. Federer lost with an easy paper draw. He can do it again. Because paper draws don't mean a damn thing most of the time.
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i said that federer didnt lose the match to himself

as in he didnt give up an easy opportunity, that match was in cilics hands the entire time and federer couldnt do anything but play to the best of his abilities that day

a match that federer did throw was this year agaisnt seppi

we all saw federer play poorly then


you have no clue what you are talking about.

anyone who has seen cilic play in person knows that he could very well beat any player if hes at his best, and he showed that in the uso when he made a fool out of every player that stepped up agaisnt him

i would take cilic at his best vs any other player at their best 9/10 becasue when he is at his best, he is painting the lines with the flattest hardest shots youve ever seen, a proffessional slap if you will
 
Ihatetennis said:
i said that federer didnt lose the match to himself

as in he didnt give up an easy opportunity, that match was in cilics hands the entire time and federer couldnt do anything but play to the best of his abilities that day

a match that federer did throw was this year agaisnt seppi

we all saw federer play poorly then


you have no clue what you are talking about.

anyone who has seen cilic play in person knows that he could very well beat any player if hes at his best, and he showed that in the uso when he made a fool out of every player that stepped up agaisnt him

i would take cilic at his best vs any other player at their best 9/10 becasue when he is at his best, he is painting the lines with the flattest hardest shots youve ever seen, a proffessional slap if you will
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You're missing the point. Cilic is not special for having been able to produce a level of tennis beyond his past form. Any player has the potential to do this, including all those in Federer's half of the FO draw. So if one would admit in hindsight that Federer's US draw was not as rosy as it was made out to be with Cilic's world-beating form, then one must also admit that Federer's French Open draw has that exact same potential. Paper draws are useless...
 
Fed will have to serve well and get to net against Monfils. But to act like he can't beat him is pretty funny. Fed was damaged goods in the DC match last Nov.

Having said that it seems like people who've posted so far are discounting Nishikori. I'd only make Fed a 55/45 fav against him on clay. Again, if Fed doesn't get a nice allotment of easy points off serve he'll be in a tough fight.

And who knows which Stan will show up? The AO/Monte Carlo 2014 Stan could club Fed; or will it be the Rome 2015 Stan who looked like he gave up after 3 games.
 
Inanimate_object said:
You're missing the point. Cilic is not special for having been able to produce a level of tennis beyond his past form. Any player has the potential to do this, including all those in Federer's half of the FO draw. So if one would admit in hindsight that Federer's US draw was not as rosy as it was made out to be with Cilic's world-beating form, then one must also admit that Federer's French Open draw has that exact same potential. Paper draws are useless...
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if you think every players best is better than fed you are mistaken, cilic is a slap, if he is on then there is a good chance you will lose, wether your name is nadal djokovic or federer, i wouldnt say the same about ryan harrison or even david ferrer, because they dont have a big game like cilic

at their best, players have a better chance to beat fed, paper draws arent useless tho, if they were then we wouldnt even care about seeding
 
Ihatetennis said:
if you think every players best is better than fed you are mistaken, cilic is a slap, if he is on then there is a good chance you will lose, wether your name is nadal djokovic or federer, i wouldnt say the same about ryan harrison or even david ferrer, because they dont have a big game like cilic

at their best, players have a better chance to beat fed, paper draws arent useless tho, if they were then we wouldnt even care about seeding
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Funny thing is, you would not have said this about Cilic before you saw him blow Federer off the court. Hindsight is 20x20 isn't it? The only reason you can't imagine other players zoning and beating Federer is because they haven't done it yet. And yet the only reason they could upset the rosy paper draw is precisely because you believe they can't do it. Do you see the dilemma here?
 
Inanimate_object said:
Funny thing is, you would not have said this about Cilic before you saw him blow Federer off the court. Hindsight is 20x20 isn't it? The only reason you can't imagine other players zoning and beating Federer is because they haven't done it yet. And yet the only reason they could upset the rosy paper draw is precisely because you believe they can't do it. Do you see the dilemma here?
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thats not true tho, i was there at cilics practice the saturday before his uso debut, i also saw him beat nishikori first round a couple years back i believe, and saw him whoop harrison the year after in the first round

ive always thought cilic was unbeatable at his highest level as he has a game that isnt able to be overpowered once it's in control
 
Ihatetennis said:
thats not true tho, i was there at cilics practice the saturday before his uso debut, i also saw him beat nishikori first round a couple years back i believe, and saw him whoop harrison the year after in the first round

ive always thought cilic was unbeatable at his highest level as he has a game that isnt able to be overpowered once it's in control
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Again, hindsight is a wonderful thing.
 
Remember, Monfils' last two victories over Federer came with two exceptions: DC (Federer back pain), and Monte-Carlo (lack of match play).

/IF/ Federer serves well, comes to the net, uses drop shots, and avoids long rallies, the maestro should win.

And I expect Wawrinka to be upset early on; he crashed out of Rome (self-destructed), and he even lost the 250 in Geneva.

Really, really hope Federer makes the final. Opposite him will be Murray/Djokovic; either one is fine, because Fed has a 50/50 chance against both. And the semi-final (Murray Vs Djokovic) should be a five-setter, leaving the other player exhausted.
 
^Murray/Djokovic won't be a 5 setter on clay. Murray would do well to avoid a straight set loss. And Federer/Djokovic is not 50/50 anymore. Certainly not in a best of 5 on clay. And, at first look Fed would be probably be slightly favoured against Murray in a RG final, but if Murray did somehow beat Nadal or Djokovic that would have to be taken into consideration.

Djokovic-Nadal has a better chance of being a 5 setter.
 
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ThomasGB said:
Remember, Monfils' last two victories over Federer came with two exceptions: DC (Federer back pain), and Monte-Carlo (lack of match play).

/IF/ Federer serves well, comes to the net, uses drop shots, and avoids long rallies, the maestro should win.

And I expect Wawrinka to be upset early on; he crashed out of Rome (self-destructed), and he even lost the 250 in Geneva.

Really, really hope Federer makes the final. Opposite him will be Murray/Djokovic; either one is fine, because Fed has a 50/50 chance against both. And the semi-final (Murray Vs Djokovic) should be a five-setter, leaving the other player exhausted.
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Hope you are right.... saw both of those losses to Gael on clay and to me, Gael reads Rogers shots easliy on the dirt.
Monfils can beat Roger if Roger doesnt step it up a whole lot.
BUT wish for the GOAT to take a 2nd RG title.
Im in Paris and get to see the 1st week at least ,cant wait..
 
Ihatetennis said:
Federer has the easiest french open draw i think he's ever had.

he has 3 opponents in his half that could be worrysome, but none that should challenge him anymore than expected

monfils berdych and wawrinka


while the top half has dimitrov and ferer and murray and djokovic

thats gonna be tough for all, while federer will have the best chance to go for another french title
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No Nishi, no Nadal - but Dimi!!! and Ferrer (sorry, Ferer)???? :confused:
Ihatetennis said:
but thats whats so great about his draw, he wont have to use the same amount of energy to get to the final. and clay is much easier on your body

if he can play like he did in rome and really take charge early in his matches. i suspect he can make it to the finals having played only 7-9 hours
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I want what you're smoking.
 
MichaelNadal said:
I'll post a gif of me eating my hat if Federer wins Roland Garros.
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Now I really, really want Fed to win it. But it ain't happening.
Bad_Knee said:
Gotta disagree.

Federer vs Djoko on clay is a 60/40 match in Djoko's favor, they're 1-1 at RG, Djokovic not as good as he was in 2011...

As for Murray, that's 50/50, never met on clay, 12-11 H2H, even matchup.

So if he gets there and Nadal is not there, he has more than a fighting shot.
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Not 60-40 vs. Djoko imo. Did you see Rome? FO is best of 5 - it's more like a 75-25 match for Djoko unless he's too nervous.
Agree with Murray being close to 50-50.
 
Inanimate_object said:
Again, hindsight is a wonderful thing.
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It is, but you can't say that a top level ferrer could even be close to a top level cilic or kevin Anderson


Height+power at its highest level is unbeatable, but it's much harder for them to produce their highest level.

And cilic has the biggest game in the atp, if he's on...he's on.
 
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