French Open Final: [1] Rafa Nadal vs [7] Dominic Thiem

How’s it go?

  • Thieminator in 3

    Votes: 10 6.1%
  • Thiem’s time is now in 4

    Votes: 22 13.4%
  • Domi shows supreme mental strength in 5

    Votes: 12 7.3%
  • Bull rushes to victory in 3

    Votes: 60 36.6%
  • Rafa crushes puny ball basher in 4

    Votes: 41 25.0%
  • Rafa trolls Fed fans in 5

    Votes: 2 1.2%
  • Rain ruins another match

    Votes: 4 2.4%
  • Mury GOAT

    Votes: 1 0.6%
  • Just get this over with so we can get the grass season started!

    Votes: 6 3.7%
  • Anyone but Zverev

    Votes: 6 3.7%

  • Total voters
    164

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Oh,, the Deuce arrived,,, and AGAIN started making stupid mistakes and went for too much and Forehand long by 5 feet and backhand return long on match point.......................How Stupid is that ?????????
 

Antonio Puente

Hall of Fame
In tennis terms, possibly the most ridiculous thing ever said: Nadal has as many FOs as Borg has slams.

Updated tier 1 rankings:

Fed - 20
Nadal -17
Pete - 14
Djoker - 12
Borg - 11
RG Rafa - 11

By this time next year, there's a good chance Nadal will have as many FOs as Djoker has slams.
 
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cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
Even if thiem had pulled off that first set i think nadal pulls this off in 4 sets. I thought he served beautifully compared to his other matches before.
And Thiem all of a sudden couldn't buy a serve in the final and was a complete error machine.

You can't knock Nadal. It's not his fault. He must be laughing his arse off at these youngsters who at age 24(not even that young any longer) can't step up when it matters. I mean, Nadal won his first slam at age 19, Djokovic was 20. What is wrong with these youngsters? It's not normal.
 

tennis_pro

Bionic Poster
34 winners for Thiem compared to 26 to Nadal in a 6-4 6-3 6-2 Nadal win and I'm getting flak from people here for calling me a pusher?!

WTF!?

Let's see what "aggressive" Nadal does on faster surfaces now. Pavlasek is waiting...
 

Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru
My point is that I’m relieved. In 2016, it seemed very unlikely that Fed could add three slams.
You're not relieved about anything. All indications that I've seen tell me you're primarily a Nadal fan who posted a bait post that I was stupid enough to bite on, but I'm honestly wondering what your point was.

Ifs can go on forever. If Nadal had 0 RG titles he'd only have 6 slams. But he just so happens to be god like on clay.
 
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Deleted member 77403

Guest
For the 10,000,000th time: who in their right mind expected any other result? Thiem actually outperformed the predicted 6-2, 6-1, 6-1 scoreline. He was never going to win this match even had Nadal literally had a broken leg. He's mentally weak and a choker in big moments. He's the opposite of what 19 year old Sampras was at the USO, when he casually and with no nerves shot down Lendl, Mac and Agassi to win the title.

The only way to beat Nadal on RG is to rob him of time, stand in close to the baseline and take everything early. Also attack the net after serving him wide. Did Thiem do any of that? No, nor did any sane person expect him to.
Well, pretty much everyone who logically looked at this match knew Thiem wasn't going to win. I predicted straights, and that is just what we got. Calling Thiem Prince of Clay is actually a backhanded compliment to him IMO.
 

Ray Mercer

Hall of Fame
If Thiems supposedly the next clay great I dont see Nadal losing here for another 5-10 years. Where the hell is the next Coria or Kuerten?
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
Well i hope this pushes Fed at Wimbledon to win it. It feels like it’s been a year since i saw him play. Too much time off but it helps to recharge the batteries.
He must be laughing at these youngsters too. He's saying to himself, check. Another W incoming.
 

ScottleeSV

Professional
There are a lot of frailties in Thiem's game that he needs to improve on he's even going to aspire to winning a set next year against Nadal.

His feet get tangled up way too often for me. He seems to lose his balance a lot. Strange thing is, he's quick and spritely a lot of the time. I'm not sure what causes it.

Net play is awful. Volleys look terrible. Also, when he comes forward to put the ball away and it bounces first, he misses put-aways that should be bread and butter at this level.

First serve returns - misses too many.

Attitude; his head goes away a bit when he has bad luck. That line call in the first set almost cost him his serve but for Nadal missing by an inch. Then last game of the set the miss at the net prompted three more unforced. Stop looking at your box too. Really irritates me that.

Backhand on the stretch is too soft. I don't like the loopy one he goes to on that side either.

He plays a lot of good flashy points but then follows it up with too many errors, making that earlier good play redundant.

The worst thing for him is, this was not remotely an improvement over the dynamic of last year's semi. Not one bit. Nadal played well but he also missed many more shots than he did against Del Potro, I thought. If this is Thiem's peak then it literally is a case of how many do you want Rafa before your legs go?
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
Probably managed to stay awake for that 2008 Wimbledon final he won against whazzhisname though.
hahahahaha yes, Depends of course who he plays.
Last year Wimbledon final I stopped watching when Cilic started to cry. This year AO I didnt watch the final at all. Just not my kind of tennis these days. But this can change. My taste normally doesnt stay the same for years and years. Still like Rafa though, I like so much bombarding FH and lots of strength on court.
 

li0scc0

Hall of Fame
For the 10,000,000th time: who in their right mind expected any other result? Thiem actually outperformed the predicted 6-2, 6-1, 6-1 scoreline. He was never going to win this match even had Nadal literally had a broken leg. He's mentally weak and a choker in big moments. He's the opposite of what 19 year old Sampras was at the USO, when he casually and with no nerves shot down Lendl, Mac and Agassi to win the title.

The only way to beat Nadal on RG is to rob him of time, stand in close to the baseline and take everything early. Also attack the net after serving him wide. Did Thiem do any of that? No, nor did any sane person expect him to.
Exactly my point. I predicted about eight games for Thiem so he roughly achieved that.
I'm simply baffled how people can attack 115 mile an hour first serves but they can't attack a Nadal 97 mile-an-hour first.
 

Tennisgods

Hall of Fame
Fedfans: where would we be now if Roger had not won the additional slams from 2017 onwards???
Indeed, Nadal would be leading slam count. Today’s result (and manner of the win) means that will likely happen eventually.
But Fed took advantage of the same poor field that Nadal has; it’s working out great for both!
 

Mike Sams

Legend
Magnificent, astonishing, epic... Got to really appreciate what this guy has done in his career, especially now when it's more and more likely that we have seen his last Slam.

Let's hear it again.

Vainqueur de Roland Garros

deux mille cinq
deux mille six
deux mille sept
deux mille huit
deux mille dix
deux mille onze
deux mille douze
deux mille treize
deux mille quatorze
deux mille dix-sept
deux mille dix-huit

l'Espagnol Rafael Nadal! :)
Nadal probably still has 5 more years left in him at Roland Garros. Especially if he keeps getting draws like this and if nobody else can rise up which is what it seems like. Likely the generation that comes after NextGen is what will send Fedal into retirement. So probably 5 years from now. LOL
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
34 winners for Thiem compared to 26 to Nadal in a 6-4 6-3 6-2 Nadal win and I'm getting flak from people here for calling me a pusher?!

WTF!?

Let's see what "aggressive" Nadal does on faster surfaces now. Pavlasek is waiting...
Nadal forced 37 errors from Thiem
Thiem forced 21 errors from Nadal

so overall Nadal had 63 winners+errors forced
Thiem had 55 winners+errors forced

So yeah, Nadal was nowhere near a pusher in this match.
 

Fedole

Semi-Pro
For the 10,000,000th time: who in their right mind expected any other result? Thiem actually outperformed the predicted 6-2, 6-1, 6-1 scoreline. He was never going to win this match even had Nadal literally had a broken leg. He's mentally weak and a choker in big moments. He's the opposite of what 19 year old Sampras was at the USO, when he casually and with no nerves shot down Lendl, Mac and Agassi to win the title.

The only way to beat Nadal on RG is to rob him of time, stand in close to the baseline and take everything early. Also attack the net after serving him wide. Did Thiem do any of that? No, nor did any sane person expect him to.
Taking everything early is not Thiem's game though, and you're stupid if you think he could magically adapt to that way of playing. Delusional, even.
 

Sudacafan

Talk Tennis Guru
You're not relieved about anything. All indications that I've seen tell me you're primarily a Nadal fan who posted a bait post that I was stupid enough to bite on, but I'm honestly wondering what your point was.

Ifs can go on forever. If Nadal had 0 RG titles he'd only have 6 slams. But he just so happens to be god like on clay.
I am a realistic and no nonsense Fed fan. Definitely not your class of Fed fan.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Seriously,,, what is up with that Dinky plate for the finalist ?? Can't they have little better looking trophy for the Finalist ?? he lost to RAFA ,, nothing to be shame of ...... it is big achievement to be in the final
 
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