Fritz the worse Slam finalist this Century?

Predictable: Sinner wins another major and his competition is used to belittle his achievement. Perhaps the competition would have been "better" if the oversized mouth attached to a man (aka Alcaraz) did not have his ass kicked out of the 1st week of the USO. Oh, well, he did not have the game to make it there, but Fritz did.
 
messiahrobins said:
Let's be honest, that final was woeful. No drama no excitement nothing because from the 1st point almost it was a foregone conclusion who would win. Sinner even looked bored at times.
Fritz was abysmal. He had zero belief and the amount of wild misses he made at key points was astonishing. Fritz is just not very good, totally one dimensional and how he is 12 in the world is a sad reflection on the men's game.
Sinner could have humiliated him and I got the feeling he was actually holding back precisely not to humiliate Fritz.
Cannot think of a more underwhelming slam final really.
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Does belittling a pro who made a grand slam final make you feel better about yourself? Sad.
 
Backspin1183 said:
Far from the worst finalist ever. He'd have made multiple finals in the current era, and maybe even win one.
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Maybe
Ruud at least have a good serve. Ferrer doesn't.

Surfaces are getting faster.

I would not put money on this at all. Ferrer is second rate player apart from clay.
 
Bill Lobsalot said:
Does belittling a pro who made a grand slam final make you feel better about yourself? Sad.
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As if Fritz., or any pro player is sad enough to be on here reading!! I have no idea what job you do, but after a hard day at the office would you then go on social media to read about your day job?!!
I assume tennis players are like the rest of us, in their downtime switch off from tennis.
 
messiahrobins said:
As if Fritz., or any pro player is sad enough to be on here reading!! I have no idea what job you do, but after a hard day at the office would you then go on social media to read about your day job?!!
I assume tennis players are like the rest of us, in their downtime switch off from tennis.
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Huh? Makes no sense.
 
grandefrankie said:
I sensed that too. It makes me wish Tiafoe had won their semi, and I generally like Fritz better than Tiafoe. I don't think Tiafoe would have won but he would have tried to rile the crowd and bring them into it, and tried more interesting tactics, and it would have been more entertaining.
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Ya I really became a bigger fan of Foe because of this.
 
Arnaud Clement, Rainer Schuettler and Martin Verkerk.

All scrubs and all went down in straights winning 8, 5 and 6 games respectively.

Clement reached 1 MS SF and won 4 MM titles.
Schuettler reached 1 other slam SF and one MS F. Won 4 MM titles.
Verkerk won 2 MM titles, and did nothing else of note.

Not a big Fritz fan, but he's better than all of them.
 
No_Kwan_Do said:
Arnaud Clement, Rainer Schuettler and Martin Verkerk.

All scrubs and all went down in straights winning 8, 5 and 6 games respectively.

Clement reached 1 MS SF and won 4 titles.
Schuettler reached 1 other slam SF and one MS F. Won 4 titles.
Verkerk won 2 titles, did nothing else of note.

Not a big Fritz fan, but he's better than all of them.
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Fritz was hitting his fh so well and serve. Everything came back for him.
 
Let's calm down a bit. We've had Malivai Washington in Wimbledon final back in the 90s. Fritz is the top American male, so I don't think that was a totally crazy thing to have a home favorite in the final. Let's hope Popyrin or DM makes it to AO final one day.
 
I put Fritz down sometimes, but he's not a terrible finalist. The guy has won titles in his career. We've seen players make GS finals in the past who barely won anything, some real flukes.
 
BGod said:
Ya I really became a bigger fan of Foe because of this.
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But there's a real question about how long Tiafoe could have lasted against Sinner. He was done after 3.5 sets against Fritz. Draper was upchucking on the baseline after two sets against Sinner. Put these two facts together and it looks bleak for Foe. And the dire diagnosis is confirmed by the Cincinnati final between Sinner and Tiafoe: first set tiebreak, second set runaway.
 
reaper said:
Then it must be Rainer Schuttler
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Verkerk looks the weakest on paper to me, but he did beat both Moya and Coria to get to the 2003 French Open final, before losing to Ferrero. Verkerk was ranked 46 in the world at the time. For a guy with a big serve at the 2003 French Open, it was odd how Verkerk only won 1 match at Wimbledon.

Schuettler was ranked at 36 in the world when he reached the 2003 Australian Open final (beating Nalbandian in the quarter final and Roddick in the semi final), and finished the year at number 6, playing in the YEC and beating Roddick again. Later on, Schuettler was in the 2004 Monte Carlo final, losing to Coria, which got Schuettler to his highest ranking of world number 5, and Schuettler was later in the 2008 Wimbledon semi final (while ranked 94 in the world) against a peak Nadal. That's stronger than Verkerk.
 
Mustard said:
Verkerk looks the weakest on paper to me, but he did beat both Moya and Coria to get to the 2003 French Open final, before losing to Ferrero. Verkerk was ranked 46 in the world at the time. For a guy with a big serve at the 2003 French Open, it was odd how Verkerk only won 1 match at Wimbledon.

Schuettler was ranked at 36 in the world when he reached the 2003 Australian Open final (beating Roddick in the semi final), and finished the year at number 6, playing in the YEC and beating Roddick again. Later on, Schuettler was in the 2004 Monte Carlo final, losing to Coria, which got Schuettler to his highest ranking of world number 5, and Schuettler was later in the 2008 Wimbledon semi final (while ranked 94 in the world) against a peak Nadal. That's stronger than Verkerk.
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If I'd heard of Verkerk I'd have nominated him.
 
At 2001 AO, Agassi defeated Arnaud Clement, who was seeded 15th. The following year at AO, 16th seeded Thomas Johannsen defeated Safin. At 2003 AO, Agassi defeated 31st seeded Rainer Schuttler. At 2006 AO, Federer defeated unseeded Marco Baghdatis.

As bad as Fritz was, he was still better than Clement, Johannsen, Schuttler and Baghdatis. And that was only for AO. Agassi was a beneficiary of some lousy AO finals.
 
messiahrobins said:
Let's be honest, that final was woeful. No drama no excitement nothing because from the 1st point almost it was a foregone conclusion who would win. Sinner even looked bored at times.
Fritz was abysmal. He had zero belief and the amount of wild misses he made at key points was astonishing. Fritz is just not very good, totally one dimensional and how he is 12 in the world is a sad reflection on the men's game.
Sinner could have humiliated him and I got the feeling he was actually holding back precisely not to humiliate Fritz.
Cannot think of a more underwhelming slam final really.
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Since when you watch tennis?
 
SonnyT said:
At 2001 AO, Agassi defeated Arnaud Clement, who was seeded 15th. The following year at AO, 16th seeded Thomas Johannsen defeated Safin. At 2003 AO, Agassi defeated 31st seeded Rainer Schuttler. At 2006 AO, Federer defeated unseeded Marco Baghdatis.

As bad as Fritz was, he was still better than Clement, Johannsen, Schuttler and Baghdatis. And that was only for AO. Agassi was a beneficiary of some lousy AO finals.
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Yes
 
Sport said:
Kyrgios has a tier 1 serve, plus powerful forehand and decent baseline game (much better than the average servebot). Nicholas has beaten all BIg 3 members. Too talented to be "the worst" finalist, despite his lack of commitment to the sport, as well as his easily volatile focus.
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He is a terrible returner. Being a great returner is a minimum for success in the modern game. He was very lucky to make that final. Indeed if he had played the SF he wouldn’t have made it. He was just lucky enough to get a walkover in the SF.
 
Subway Tennis said:
He is a terrible returner. Being a great returner is a minimum for success in the modern game. He was very lucky to make that final. Indeed if he had played the SF he wouldn’t have made it. He was just lucky enough to get a walkover in the SF.
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I agree but grass does have these some times winning matches.
Roddick was not greatest returner even on grass.
 
Mustard said:
Verkerk looks the weakest on paper to me, but he did beat both Moya and Coria to get to the 2003 French Open final, before losing to Ferrero. Verkerk was ranked 46 in the world at the time. For a guy with a big serve at the 2003 French Open, it was odd how Verkerk only won 1 match at Wimbledon.

Schuettler was ranked at 36 in the world when he reached the 2003 Australian Open final (beating Nalbandian in the quarter final and Roddick in the semi final), and finished the year at number 6, playing in the YEC and beating Roddick again. Later on, Schuettler was in the 2004 Monte Carlo final, losing to Coria, which got Schuettler to his highest ranking of world number 5, and Schuettler was later in the 2008 Wimbledon semi final (while ranked 94 in the world) against a peak Nadal. That's stronger than Verkerk.
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You've sold me. Schuettler stuck around.
SonnyT said:
At 2001 AO, Agassi defeated Arnaud Clement, who was seeded 15th. The following year at AO, 16th seeded Thomas Johannsen defeated Safin. At 2003 AO, Agassi defeated 31st seeded Rainer Schuttler. At 2006 AO, Federer defeated unseeded Marco Baghdatis.

As bad as Fritz was, he was still better than Clement, Johannsen, Schuttler and Baghdatis. And that was only for AO. Agassi was a beneficiary of some lousy AO finals.
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Baghdatis really gets undeserved shade. Go watch that 2006 AO Final then get back to me about Fritz being better.

Beat Hewitt at Wimbledon that same year then basically injury problems. Lost to Nadal at 07 Paris Semis, beat Nadal at 2010 Shanghai way past it.

He was also a spastic but fun to watch. Talent wise in top form absolutely better than Fritz.
 
BauerAlmeida said:
Puerta is a weak finalist too but pushed Nadal and had a couple of set points to take it to 5 vs Nadal at Roland Garros. And Schuettler at least had some decent runs here and there, he was ranked 4 or 5 in 2004 when the points from the final were already gone and made Wimbledon semis.
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Puerta in 2005 played about as good as Fed did in the semi, so actually pretty good.

Of course, he was juiced, but that was Young Claydal in front of him.
 
Third Serve said:
Kyrgios wasn’t that bad. He served very very well, perhaps the best we’ve seen in a Wimbledon final since 2009.
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He had a minor breakdown when he realized that Djokovic was, in fact, a better tennis player, but played as well as one should realistically expect him to.
 
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