Frugal drop weight'ers: Electronic machine is a REVELATION.

Arvin_C

New User
One of the first things I was taught when I was getting my medical training was, “Tools are great to have, but your technique will matter more.” This is something I believe the OP fails to grasp or needs to learn.

I was fortunate enough to work in the tennis industry while in college and post-grad school. I used every type of machine out there, including pneumatic (learned on a Prince P-200) and spring activated CP (Laserfibre...what an unique, excellent machine!) I even strung on one of the first production Wise Tennis Heads when we were evaluating it while I was stringing at H-bird. In all my experiences on every different type of machine, I never forgot that proper, well-developed techniques and practices were what really mattered.

If you know your equipment and know how to adjust for any factors related to the tools at hand, you can get the job done successfully. In fact, a point of pride as a “pro” stringer is being able to do the same racquet “job” on two different machines and get the same outcome. It’s not the tool...it’s how you use it. A universal cliche, yes...but one that has proven to be true more often than not.

Just my $0.02...stepping off soapbox now.

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jim e

Legend
Oooh! what color(s)? I'm so old, I remember these lol. Beautiful cars.. designed by Pininfarina.
Both are 1990 cars, one is a 1990.5 as there was a design change part way through the year. The 90.5 is a burgundy exterior and red interior. I bought that one in 93. The other is champagne color with neutral interior. I bought that one 7 years ago. Both have just over 40,000 miles. For a 2 seat convertible they ride line a Cadillac.They chasis was shipped by plane to Italy, Pininfarina made the body and interior, then was flown back to Michigan on special 747 to finish car in US. GM lost big time on those as sales were not very good. Only 21,000 made over 7 years.

 
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Ultra 2

Semi-Pro
Yeah, I remember the ambitious process with the sales being pretty poor. I also remember the release when it was on the cover of just about every car magazine around.. Yours are a pair of beautys!!
 

jim e

Legend
No, manual top. Well it has electronic pull down motor to help secure it down. One of the reasons it never sold well, was that it was a manual top. Goes up and down very quickly. Especially the 90.5 as they made a top change that year. Nice thing about the top it has a glass heated rear window.
 

Chadalina

Hall of Fame
Stringing machines are really basic.

1 - Holds the racket in place
2 - Pulls tension on the string
3 - Holds tension on the string

What else is there? Its best not to overcomplicate what they actually do.
 

1HBHfanatic

Hall of Fame
One of the first things I was taught when I was getting my medical training was, “Tools are great to have, but your technique will matter more.” This is something I believe the OP fails to grasp or needs to learn.

I was fortunate enough to work in the tennis industry while in college and post-grad school. I used every type of machine out there, including pneumatic (learned on a Prince P-200) and spring activated CP (Laserfibre...what an unique, excellent machine!) I even strung on one of the first production Wise Tennis Heads when we were evaluating it while I was stringing at H-bird. In all my experiences on every different type of machine, I never forgot that proper, well-developed techniques and practices were what really mattered.

If you know your equipment and know how to adjust for any factors related to the tools at hand, you can get the job done successfully. In fact, a point of pride as a “pro” stringer is being able to do the same racquet “job” on two different machines and get the same outcome. It’s not the tool...it’s how you use it. A universal cliche, yes...but one that has proven to be true more often than not.

Just my $0.02...stepping off soapbox now.

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jim e

Legend
39 minutes.
God this never gets old.
I LOVE THIS TECHNO MACHINE
How about an apology to all the experienced stringers here who posted there times in under 30 minutes and you called them all flat out liars.
An apology is due from you , but I'm sure that won't happen as you are not that type if person.
 

struggle

Legend
How about an apology to all the experienced stringers here who posted there times in under 30 minutes and you called them all flat out liars.
An apology is due from you , but I'm sure that won't happen as you are not that type if person.
Nah, man. He's headed to string week 2 of the Open.
 
How about an apology to all the experienced stringers here who posted there times in under 30 minutes and you called them all flat out liars.
An apology is due from you , but I'm sure that won't happen as you are not that type if person.
As usual, always misquoted.

Here is my original comment:

Strung again.
Took me EXACTLY the same amount of time.
1:42

It took me 7 mins. just to cut off the strings and remove them.
Anyone who strings in 20 mins. is a flat out liar.
People even claimed 12 minutes.
It takes that long just to unravel the string, mount the racket, remove old strings.
You can't string a racket in 12 minutes. Flat out liars.
And the implication was using a DW machine, as that was my reference marker.
 
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pvw_tf

Rookie
People even claimed 12 minutes.
It takes that long just to unravel the string, mount the racket, remove old strings.
You can't string a racket in 12 minutes. Flat out liars.
And the implication was using a DW machine, as that was my reference marker.
I think you statements are pretty off. The only question to ask if someone takes 12 minutes, will it be a good string job.

But 12 minutes with a drop-weight can be done.

Peter
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
As usual, always misquoted.

Here is my original comment:



People even claimed 12 minutes.
It takes that long just to unravel the string, mount the racket, remove old strings.
You can't string a racket in 12 minutes. Flat out liars.
And the implication was using a DW machine, as that was my reference marker.
In your old quote, you called anyone who claims to complete a string job in 20 mins or less a liar. Professional stringers can definitely do it in under 20 mins. Now you change it to 12 mins. Lol. Wouldn’t it be so much easier to admit you were wrong and issue an apology rather than constantly making yourself look like a complete fool? I can tell you people would respect you a lot more if you admitted you were mistaken.
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
I suspect with some people when they quote stringing times for themselves, they're not necessarily including all that "other stuff" - besides the actual stringing of the racquet.

Regardless, just because you can't do it, doesn't mean it can't be done.
Earth, no, the entire universe, no, make it the entire Milky Way revolves around TTPS. If he can’t do something, no one else could possibly be able to do it either.

TTPS can’t speak Tagalog? Ok, no one else can possibly know how to speak it either.

And I thought it wasn’t possible for someone to have a bigger ego than Prez Trump...
 
I suspect with some people when they quote stringing times for themselves, they're not necessarily including all that "other stuff" - besides the actual stringing of the racquet.

Regardless, just because you can't do it, doesn't mean it can't be done.
Like I said, not one person has given video proof
If someone posts a video of all those steps in 20 mins. or less
then I will retract. Until then, FLAT. OUT. LIARS.
 

am1899

Hall of Fame
I think the pro stringers string in 20min. From the moment they are handed the racket.

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I’m aware of pro stringers who can string at a pace of 4 racquets per hour. Doesn’t mean that they can (or try) to keep that’s pace up for extended periods. But if they need to fly - as in “on court” situations - they can.
 

jim e

Legend
Remove strings.
Mount racket.
Open strings.
String racket.
Drop weight
20 minutes
Liar
Your post on other thread was about stringing time.
There was no assumption that everyone uses a dw.
You said anyone stringing a racquet in under 20 min is a flat out liar.Now you want to add dw to the mix.
Cutting out strings you said takes you 7 minutes. In reality cutting out strings is not stringing, as you are removing not stringing. Many times I get a new racquet or a racquet without strings. Time is for stringing. Many pro stringers have another non stringer remove strings if needed. BTW, if you have proper string bed cutters it is fast to remove strings anyways.
Many machines make mounting fast and simple, so mounting is no issue and very little time.
If you were a member of the IART they had a video of a contest few years back ar their stringing symposium of fast stringing, all were under 20 min.Most likely all under 15 min. but it has been a while since I have watched that video.But there is a video out there of that speed stringing contest.
There are many other things that should be done besides stringing like inspection of racquet for cracks, inspection of grommets, record job in log book with racquet ,string used tensiion player ,date of job , looking up an unfamiliar pattern, etc.
This was just talking about stringing, = mount, string, dismount, period.
Bottom line you now add dw and add removing strings as you are attempting to cover your inaccurate comment and cannot admit you were wrong. Sad.
You know tpps there is another stringers forum you can go to that maybe they would believe your comments for a while until you post a few comments.
 
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Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
I’m aware of pro stringers who can string at a pace of 4 racquets per hour. Doesn’t mean that they can (or try) to keep that’s pace up for extended periods. But if they need to fly - as in “on court” situations - they can.
Pro stringers do not remove strings, check and clean rackets, etc. they string rackets (mount, string, and dismount.) 20 minutes should not be uncommon unless you string in one of Brad G’s shops then you must be much faster. LOL
 

am1899

Hall of Fame
Pro stringers do not remove strings, check and clean rackets, etc. they string rackets (mount, string, and dismount.) 20 minutes should not be uncommon unless you string in one of Brad G’s shops then you must be much faster. LOL
Correct.

As far as Brad G’s shops...12 min or automatic red card.
 

jim e

Legend
Reality check
Notice @TimeToPlaySets , machines used are not electronical as you call a Revelation, but a crank machine. The videos that the IART had for the world's fastest stringers contest were Wilson Biardo machines. The hands and technique of stringer are most important.I rather have a knowledgeable stringer use any machine he felt good about using string my racquet than an idiot using a high end one.
But here is your proof of fast stringing.
@TimeToPlaySets is it now time to retract your statement, or I assume you cannot do that, as that is not in your character to do that?
You did say you would retract your statement with video proof.
 
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