Full poly user feeling slight elbow problems. Suggestions?

#1
I use a hybrid of solinco tour bite and tourna big hitter silver. I string at 48/45. Lately, I’m starting to feel some golfer’s elbow. It’s weird; I’ve never had it before and I’m actually hitting less lately.

At any rate, I’m wondering if I should change it up a little. I used a synth gut in the crosses recently and it felt pretty good for about 2 hours then it became uncontrollable.

Now I’m considerjng using cream in the crosses to get some softness but still maintain poly spin and control.

Any other options or ideas you would suggest?
 
#2
Test out Signum Pro X-Perience in the mains. Even a full bed feels very easy on the arm. I'm using the 17g version at 46/44 in a 98" Pure Strike 16x19. I emailed TW twice asking about when reels are coming but never got a reply.
 
#4
If you're playing outdoors in the colder conditions we catch at this time of year, your full poly bed could be turning sharply more firm on you in the cold. This happened a couple years ago to one of the sluggers on the boys' hs team I coach. We decided to switch his string layout from full RPM Blast into a full bed of 15L ga. Prince Premier Control. The heavier gauge would hold up for a little more than a week and the softer string layout cooled out his elbow after only about two weeks.

He was playing with Pure Drives at the time (go figure!) and after finishing that spring season, he decided that he needed a heavier alternative that could do a little more work for him. His switch was to the Wilson Six.One 95 and he played that with a poly hybrid with no issues through his senior year.

If you try Cream in the crosses, you've still got a full poly bed going there. Consider dropping tension maybe another 8 lbs. if you try that layout.

If you try some other hybrids and the elbow gremlins linger, I'd say make a more drastic change and dump the poly completely until you can get to where you're feeling okay. By going to this hybrid or that, I think you're only making subtle adjustments. If you want to keep playing on a limited schedule, you're probably doing more of what got your elbow into trouble in the first place, so I think you'll be stacking the odds more in your favor if you move to a substantially softer string.

One thing that can be rough on that region of the elbow is hitting a lot of hard serves. If you've been practicing a little bit lately or going for the big bombs when you play points, try to go easy there and keep your arm as loose as you can when you do any serving.
 
#5
Those are fairly stiff polys as well. I am not as in the know about softer ones these days, but I never had any issues with Tourna Big Hitter Blue. It was softer and more lively than Silver, but still had great bite. Maybe even better bite.
 
#6
Try Head Hawk Touch 17 poly in the crosses. Soft and still easy sliding for the mains. I use it as a cross in my setups, gut/poly mainly now with some poly/poly.
Better yet, try as a full bed. You'll be surprised. It's the only poly I dare play full bed now.
 
#12
I use a hybrid of solinco tour bite and tourna big hitter silver. I string at 48/45. Lately, I’m starting to feel some golfer’s elbow. It’s weird; I’ve never had it before and I’m actually hitting less lately.

At any rate, I’m wondering if I should change it up a little. I used a synth gut in the crosses recently and it felt pretty good for about 2 hours then it became uncontrollable.

Now I’m considerjng using cream in the crosses to get some softness but still maintain poly spin and control.

Any other options or ideas you would suggest?
Hybrid with babolat Excel and solinco tour bite. Your elbow pain will disappear than you will add 15 mph to your serve.
 
#15
Soft poly mains like Isospeed Baseline and Prince Synthetic Gut Duraflex crosses worked for me after TE. Went to a more flexible frame as well and 55/55 with RPM to 48/50 with the ISO/ PSGD.
(Head Speed Pro to Head Radical Pro)
 
#17
Ditch the poly!

Your long-term elbow health > little bit of extra spin.
I would agree, but this is the first time I've experienced anything in almost 10 years, and it's very mild. It doesn't bother me when not playing and even then it's not bad enough I have to stop. I just want to prevent it from getting worse, so I'm thinking some type of hybrid should work.
 
#18
I use a hybrid of solinco tour bite and tourna big hitter silver. I string at 48/45. Lately, I’m starting to feel some golfer’s elbow. It’s weird; I’ve never had it before and I’m actually hitting less lately.

At any rate, I’m wondering if I should change it up a little. I used a synth gut in the crosses recently and it felt pretty good for about 2 hours then it became uncontrollable.

Now I’m considerjng using cream in the crosses to get some softness but still maintain poly spin and control.

Any other options or ideas you would suggest?
Seems like your issues begsn when the poly notched and began locking. You had to straighten your strings.

Syngut multi and gut crosses will just lock on you.

So i have 3 recs.

1. Keep the tour bite but switch crosses to monogut zx. Its not a poly but behaves like it. Its super soft but extremely durable. It will extend the time it takes to lock the stringbed up and because its soft as nat gut it should help with the ge. But stretch the crap out of it because it will lose a ton of tension if you dont

2. Get the softest poly you can find. Look at the ratings and put that as a cross because its clear you dont like a locked stringbed.

3. Go with either rec 1 or 2 but up the mains 10lbs and lower the crosses by 10 lbs. it will lower the friction and allow the mains to slide easier which will put less stress on your elbow. So even though the mains are at higher tension the stringbed will feel softer. This ime is the best option but only really available if you string yourself. Its a rare stringer who is enlightened enough to give you option number 3.
 
#19
Soft poly mains like Isospeed Baseline and Prince Synthetic Gut Duraflex crosses worked for me after TE. Went to a more flexible frame as well and 55/55 with RPM to 48/50 with the ISO/ PSGD.
(Head Speed Pro to Head Radical Pro)
Look at post 11. This guy doesnt play well with locked stringbeds. What unlocked bed would you recommend for him?
 
#20
Seems like your issues begsn when the poly notched and began locking. You had to straighten your strings.

Syngut multi and gut crosses will just lock on you.

So i have 3 recs.

1. Keep the tour bite but switch crosses to monogut zx. Its not a poly but behaves like it. Its super soft but extremely durable. It will extend the time it takes to lock the stringbed up and because its soft as nat gut it should help with the ge. But stretch the crap out of it because it will lose a ton of tension if you dont

2. Get the softest poly you can find. Look at the ratings and put that as a cross because its clear you dont like a locked stringbed.

3. Go with either rec 1 or 2 but up the mains 10lbs and lower the crosses by 10 lbs. it will lower the friction and allow the mains to slide easier which will put less stress on your elbow. So even though the mains are at higher tension the stringbed will feel softer. This ime is the best option but only really available if you string yourself. Its a rare stringer who is enlightened enough to give you option number 3.
Great suggestions! I'm thinking about going with option 1. I have used zx some in the past and thought it worked well. I ultimately stopped because I kept breaking it when tying the knots, but I can just be very careful with it.
 
#21
Look at post 11. This guy doesnt play well with locked stringbeds. What unlocked bed would you recommend for him?
This set up doesn’t lock up and it’s like butter on the arm at low tensions. Before it breaks the string will start moving quite a bit. Works fantastic and also plays with the characteristics of a poly set up which someone who is used to using full poly will need. Just his arm needs a break. This is why you see a great number of pros who have had wrist/elbow problems playing full poly go to poly/gut. They like the poly feel.
Sure if one was consumed with unlocked stringbeds and snapback for spin you could put this guy on a Gut/poly set up with a differential but being a full poly player that is huge change just as it is for a number of other set ups you could give him.
Little side note. Won 9.5 Combo playing with ISO/PSGD at 48/50. String cost was around $3 dollars a frame and played well and kept me competing. Softer strings at lower tensions works when their is some minor pain creeping in. Just one opinion with a great deal of application behind it.
 
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#22
Great suggestions! I'm thinking about going with option 1. I have used zx some in the past and thought it worked well. I ultimately stopped because I kept breaking it when tying the knots, but I can just be very careful with it.
Great. Give it a try. Did you see the zx stringing vid and how to string it? It talks about the best practices. In addition i stopped using starting clamps and starting knots on the crosses because of zx. Its easier that way anyhow.

And do try #3. If you are worried just start with a few lbs and work up.
 
#25
Tourbite/OGSM @ 48/52 is also easy on the arm and plays well for 8-10hrs. Used it for a year or so. Not as easy on the arm as putting a softer poly in the mains and a softer syn gut or multi in the cross.
Let us know how the Zx holds up on the Tourbite.
 
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#27
Which synthetic gut? There are differences. OGSM is the best that I tried so for in the crosses.

Also, using a round poly in the mains would increase the lifetime of a poly/syn.gut hybrid.
Agreed, solid core synthetic gut works the best. Using Tourbite/OGSM the strings don’t get stuck. Plays well for the duration until the strings start to move too much then it’s time to cut out. Never broke a string playing with this set up.
 
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