Full size racquet for 11 yr old girl

NMTennis

Rookie
Hello all. Thanks in advance for the help. My 10 year old (about to be 11) daughter (almost 5 ft 1, 93 lbs) has outgrown her 26 in Babolat pure drive 26 inch racquet (8.8 oz). She has been playing tournaments for 2.5 years - high level tournaments in our home state of NC - and about to move up to the 12s. She would be considered an aggressive baseliner (if you can call an 11 year old such as thing...)

Wanted to hear your thoughts of her first full size racquet....Here are several contenders:
Babolat Pure Drive Lite 10.1 oz
Wilson Ultra 100UL 9.6 oz
Wilson Ultra 100L 10.4 oz
Wilson Burn 100LS 10.5 oz
Wilson burn 100 ULS 9.8 oz
Head Graphene 360 Speed lite 9.9 oz
Head Graphene 360 Speed S 10.7 oz
Head Graphene Touch Radical S 10.4 oz
Head Graphene Touch Extreme lite 9.9 oz
Head Graphene Touch Instinct lite 10 oz
Head Graphene touch Instinct S 10.6 oz

What do you think?
 

OjoLOCO

New User
I would just go with a full adult stick. Light, stiff options will make arm problems appear. My daughter at that stage went with the Touch Speed MPs, and they cannot be pried from her hands. She crushes groundies with a hybrid poly /syn gut setup. It won't be long, and yours will be seeing heavy topspin and pace. She would be handicapped by most of the options on your list. TW demo program is a must if you have that opportunity.

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AMGF

Hall of Fame
Got a 10 and a 12yo and both have been using regular adult frames for a while now. One plays the Blade 98S and the other the Angell K7. Lightweight and stiff is not something I'd push on anyone, especially not my own kids.

The can of worm is now open, I know how there threads ends.
 

Notirouswithag

Professional
The ultra’s are a great option, but also she might even be good with the pro staff 97LS or blade 98L with a good soft multi hybrid or poly strung low at like 48#
 

esgee48

G.O.A.T.
Any of the frames > 10 oz on your list. The Burn and Instinct are used by a lot of the adult females in my client base.Your 12 YO is just a little shorter than most of these ladies. She probably moves better than the ladies. :)
 

NMTennis

Rookie
Thanks for the input guys. We went to the local tennis shop yesterday (which has a demo wall) and she hit a bit with several frames and liked the Wilson Ultra 100 L, the Instinct S, the Radical S, and the Pure Drive Lite (which she has hit with her mom's older version). Now time for some more extensive demoing! This could drag out awhile...
 

Notirouswithag

Professional
Thanks for the input guys. We went to the local tennis shop yesterday (which has a demo wall) and she hit a bit with several frames and liked the Wilson Ultra 100 L, the Instinct S, the Radical S, and the Pure Drive Lite (which she has hit with her mom's older version). Now time for some more extensive demoing! This could drag out awhile...


No need to rush it, good luck and let us know which one she ends up picking!
 

LOBALOT

Legend
It sounds to me like your daughter is a serious player. As such I would not go with Spin "S" Racquets as I am sure she is developing/has developed that already and will be targeting more control in her game as she progresses. If it were me I would look at the non-spin racquets you suggest and maybe add the Wilson Prostaff 97L if she can handle the swing weight.
 

NMTennis

Rookie
Yes - will likely avoid the 9oz racquets and she seemed to like to 10 oz racquets....Maybe use that for a year or two, then move up to the regular racquets!
 

Paul Y

Rookie
I suggest Yonex 285g Rackets as well. My 12 year old daughter is 5ft and swings with a blade 104 and my 9 year old swings a vcore 98 285.

Both use a poly/syn gut hybrid.
 
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Deleted member 54265

Guest
My son is a string breaker so I kind of had no choice.

Please read this:

Collaborative Effort By Bob Patterson:


When it comes to poly strings, we all need to make sure adult recreational players and juniors know the facts. I speak to many manufacturers, coaches, and racquet technicians, and the consensus is that recreational adult players and junior players are using the wrong type of string, tension—or both.


Stiff polyester strings are prevalent in the marketplace and dominate the pro tours, but are they suited for the average club or league player? Most in this industry don’t think so.


First, the very benefit of poly strings is their ability to bend and snap back faster than other materials. This snapback enhances spin on the ball. A pro can swing out and get more spin on the ball while generating a heavier shot. You might think that would be the same for your average junior or club player, but it is most definitely not the case. Most players can’t generate enough racquet-head speed to bend stiff poly strings in the first place. If the string doesn't bend, it can’t snap back, and there is little or no spin enhancement. Many recreational players who switch to a poly never adjust their tension.


I’m always amazed to hear of a 3.5 adult or junior using a full poly set-up at high tensions. This is a surefire way for a player to hurt his or her arm.


Second, monofilament poly strings lose their elasticity—or the ability to snap back—much faster than nylon or other string materials. Since poly strings have a fairly dead feeling, to begin with, their decline is less noticeable for recreational players, who tend to not restring as often as they should, which only makes the problem worse.


Not only is poly string wrong for most recreational and junior players, it can be harmful. The stiffer string coupled with stiffer, lighter racquet creates much more shock to the player when the ball impacts the stringbed. In recent years, we’ve seen arm and wrist injuries sideline many top pros, and these athletes train and take every precaution to prevent injury. If we all know it is a problem, how do we fix it?


It starts with education: inform players about why they should alter their string set-up. It is better for their health and for their game. Manufacturers need to step up, too. It is easy to market a string their top sponsored player is using, but companies need to make rec players aware that string may not be best for everyone. Then they need to offer a softer, better-suited string.


The bottom line is that we all need to address this issue. Injured players play less, and may stop playing altogether.


And that’s not good for anyone. •


Bob Patterson:

Executive Director of

the U.S. Racquet Stringers Association.

Tennis Industry: Nov/Dec 2017
 

Big Bagel

Professional
My son is a string breaker so I kind of had no choice.
What gauge were you using?
How often was he breaking them?
How often are you restringing now?

I would highly recommend looking at other ways to get the strings to last longer if that is an issue.
 
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Deleted member 54265

Guest
What gauge were you using?
How often was he breaking them?
How often are you restringing now?

I would highly recommend looking at other ways to get the strings to last longer if that is an issue.

Velocity is quite durable, so is Rip control.

Black Velocity looks poly like if this is an issue.

Paul, dont fall into the poly trap, I have been there and have had my share of arm injuries. Yes you can loose some spin, but most spin is produced by technique anyway.
 
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Paul Y

Rookie
Currently my son uses 16L poly tour pro with a syn gut. He restrung roughly every 10 days depending how often he plays roughly 3 - 4 hours daily. He can tell when the poly is dying which helps.

Multifiliments we have tried and how long they last.
Bi Phase - 1 hour and snap
NXT - 1 hour
RIP Control - 2 days
Yonex Super Pro Tour - 2 days
Sensation - 1 day
 

Big Bagel

Professional
What gauges were you using with those strings though?

Also, if he's getting 30-40 hours of use from a poly, he doesn't know when it is dying; they die much earlier than that. You are lucky if you can get 12-15 hours out of a poly. Playing 3-4 hours daily, he should be restringing (if using poly) every 2-4 days.

If he was getting 2 days out of RIP Control and Pro Tour, then going with a thicker gauge should fix the problem. If a 15 gauge multi doesn't do it for you, go with a synthetic gut that should live a little longer than a multi. Poly is not the best answer.
 
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Deleted member 54265

Guest
I suggest Yonex 285g Rackets as well. My 12 year old daughter is 5ft and swings with a blade 104 and my 9 year old swings a vcore 98 285.

Both use a poly/syn gut hybrid.

Is your son 9 years old ?
 

Paul Y

Rookie
What gauges were you using with those strings though?

Also, if he's getting 30-40 hours of use from a poly, he doesn't know when it is dying; they die much earlier than that. You are lucky if you can get 12-15 hours out of a poly. Playing 3-4 hours daily, he should be restringing (if using poly) every 2-4 days.

If he was getting 2 days out of RIP Control and Pro Tour, then going with a thicker gauge should fix the problem. If a 15 gauge multi doesn't do it for you, go with a synthetic gut that should live a little longer than a multi. Poly is not the best answer.

All the Multifiliments were at 16 gauge. We can't get 15 locally. When we went full poly it would last roughly 3 days but since the hybrid we have been able to stretch it out more.

Yes Toby he's 9.
 

Big Bagel

Professional
Where do you live? There are very few places in the world that make it difficult to buy non-local products. They exist, but they aren't common these days.

Also, try synthetic guts instead of poly - they will last longer than multifillaments and be softer than poly. Something with a solid core and an outer wrap or multiple wraps.

Even if you CAN hit with poly for 10 days/30-40 hours, that doesn't mean you SHOULD. It is very bad for him (and for your daughter, not sure how long she's using it for). The only exception I can possibly see would be if you have natural gut mains with poly crosses, and that is because roughly 70% of the feel of a string setup comes from the mains, and gut holds tension better than anything else.
 
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Deleted member 54265

Guest
Yes Toby he's 9.

That is truly amazing, what a hard hitter. Please be carefull of his arm when hitting this well and hard at age 9. Safety and arm friendly setuo above all. I would suggest looking at 18x20 string patterns as this will reduce string breaking by a big margin. Try out Velocity, Technifibre HDX tour is another good and string option.

Good luck with your sons development, it will be interesting to follow, I hope you will post his progress on TT

Cheers, Toby
 

Paul Y

Rookie
My only thing with syn gut is it does snap as well when he uses it. When his hybrid manages to get to 10 days it's great but I'll manage this better and have it cut out at 5 days. He has broken the syn gut in the crosses before so that is why I'm hesitant moving him to full syn gut.

We live in Oregon and our local shop gives us a discount for stringing as we are there every week to string. My daughter restrings at 5 days but she doesn't play as much as my son.
 
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