G360+ Radical 2021

1HBHfanatic

Legend
Yep. Didn’t get a ton of time with it but it is a very solid and pretty demanding frame with a small sweet spot in my opinion. My favorite shot was the OHBH and then serves.
-ill have to try it myself
-all the MPs i have tried i had to play with syngut at mid/high 50s tension, and/or FB polys at high 40s due to low power feel
-ive tried lead all over the place, but a softer setup seems to work best IMO
-i was hoping the new 360+ tech. would help a bit for stability
-would this be more for a high/solid 3.5 or a 4.0 player in your opinion??
 

JOSHL

Hall of Fame
-ill have to try it myself
-all the MPs i have tried i had to play with syngut at mid/high 50s tension, and/or FB polys at high 40s due to low power feel
-ive tried lead all over the place, but a softer setup seems to work best IMO
-i was hoping the new 360+ tech. would help a bit for stability
-would this be more for a high/solid 3.5 or a 4.0 player in your opinion??
I would say so yes. It has plenty of stability and plow but I wouldn’t say it’s sluggish by any means. I think the swing weight was a bit too high for my liking.
 

Dansan

Rookie
My time with the Radical Pro has developed into a confusing love/hate relationship. Things started off a little rocky when I quickly realized it's much lower powered than some other frames I use, low launch angle. I dumped a lot into the net at first. Small sweet spot. It's a little stiffer with a little less plow than I would have imagined for it's weight. Once I adjusted to these changes, I swung out more and could put action and power on the ball.

2nd session out, added a little lead at 12 and some silicone in the very end of the handle. Luxilon element strings settled after last session (52ish lbs) and had more pop...with the extra SW I found more power/plow/stability. The sweet spot remains smaller than my other frames...hurts me on tough running double handers and occasionally serve. This frame rewards just going for it and hitting with confidence...for that reason I do love it. Has the type of control that lets you pull off some amazing shots. Volleys well. My mantra for using this frame is just let it rip. Now with the small amount of lead and silicone it has a bit more "dense/solid" feeling to it.

I'm going to cut the 16L element out after one more session and try something in the low 50s/high 40s nothing larger than 17g soft full poly. Up next I'm going to try a hybrid of either NG/poly or Velocity/poly.
 

Mischko

Rookie
@The Seeker @beltsman

Speed Pro is noticeably less "pro" than Radical Pro, and Speed Pro is easier to use and swing. It has a sort of plush but stable nice feel, if you're not hitting too hard. When you start bashing as fast as you can it has a very noticeable flutter/vibrations in the hoop, it lacks stability for me above my ~80% power so to speak. Michelle mentioned that flutter in the TW review, and an excellent French reviewer JP as well, on yt. But below that swing speed it is very nice, although it gives a flatter ball due to 18x20 string pattern. So when I'm just hitting with my ex-competitor friends, or with 14-15-16 yo juniors, I can give 100 balls literally at the same spot, with a super predictable trajectory, through the middle or hitting crosses or volleys or whatever. Until matchplay or points play, and then I start hitting harder, my competitors are moving the ball away from me so I'm not hitting nicely in the sweet spot, and then I lack stability, notice the flutter in the hoop, and I also lack the dip and bend that a 16x19 would give me. Placing serves works great, hitting them as fast as I can doesn't. Ideal racquet for coaches I'd say, and for players higher on the improving curve, very nice racquet all in all.

Radical Pro is more demanding, you have to prepare and execute your shots on time, with wide, fast and correct swings and technique. It works great for super hard hitting, and is probably one of the best racquets ever for serves. Stable like a rock for a 315g frame, feels a lot stiffer and sturdier than Speed Pro, is not plush at all. It is a frame for competitors, I can easily imagine it being used by a top ATP player, even without extra lead, and I wouldn't be surprised to see this Radical Pro used by pro players in the future, under various different paint jobs. But since it is a 315g racquet, so still light enough, I think that many intermediate players will also really enjoy it, it kind of forces you to improve and execute your shots properly, it's stable and just a nice frame. And everybody likes to swing out and try a winner shot, and with a frame made precisely for that.

Speed Pro made my arm and shoulder tired and used after 2h+ of hard hitting, sometimes twice a day. Since I have a one handed backhand, and Speed Pro lacks mass and (swing)weight for hitting my backhand like that, and it has that flutter/vibrations, it made my muscles and tendons just sore and tired. I had to use a hard massage ball on the back of my shoulder and scapula, because those small tendons got all in very painful knots. I put lead on the hoop, first a little on 3 and 9 and 12 and then more, then almost all around. It didn't help with the flutter and tiredness of the arm, but it helped a bit with harder hitting, but not much. In the end I concluded that I need to return to a stiffer more stable racquet, like my RF97A. And then I tried Radical Pro, I still haven't really concluded if it suits me, but there is no tiredness or soreness in my arm or shoulder, and it is stable enough for hard hitting.

Although I like the look of Radical Pro, colour and design are just very pretty to my eyes, but it is not an artifact to be exposed and seen in a museum. In real life, it is just too bright. I feel that players from 6 surrounding courts are looking at me in protest, when I take it out of the bag, and I don't feel entirely comfortable with that. When mixed with different string colours, tennis shoes and clothes that also tend to be fluo etc, it is totally too much. Shame. It reminds me of the paint job of the initial RF97A, probably marketed toward the average club 70-year-olds, boring and ugly, a total fail in my eyes. Luckily Roger saved Wilson from themselves later with a black version. Well, this is same large fail, but on the opposite side of the spectrum. Sometimes I'm really curious what would the world be like without MBA's, "marketing managers" and the lot.
 

time_fly

Hall of Fame
What’s the consensus on Pro vs MP. Which one do people prefer more?
I tried them both and ended up going with the Pro. But there are people on both sides. I think it comes more down to preference for specs and feel. I tend to prefer a more classic spec racquet with weight in the handle and throat, which is what the Pro is. It is very maneuverable for a 315g but still has the smooth and solid feel of a heavier racquet. The MP performs very well and also feels solid and stable for a 300g frame. It is balanced and weighted more like a Blade, so the feel of swinging it is just a bit different.
 

TennisManiac

Hall of Fame
What’s the consensus on Pro vs MP. Which one do people prefer more?
The MP is much lighter and more head heavy which imo is designed more towards lower level players like 3.0 to 4.0 because at these levels the pace and heaviness of the ball just isn't there.

The Pro is heavier and a tad more head light which I believe is designed more towards advanced players like 4.5 and up because at these levels the pace and heaviness of the ball are significantly higher and you need more mass to absorb and deflect this type of ball. As well as produce your own weight of shot.

Of course you could always add a bunch of weight to the MP to bring it up to where it would need to be in order to use it at these higher levels. But what's the point? Just buy the Pro. And personally for me... the Pro still needs a tad bit more weight to compete at the higher levels. So imo the MP is not even an option worth trying.
 
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I'm playing the Pro and couldn't be happier. One of the most maneuverable 310+ racquets out there. Plenty of free power from the baseline. Every shot feels solid and predictable. Started off playing Head Hawk but settled on Alu Power at 55lbs. I feel very confident in this setup. I tried the MP but I just missed the solid, heavier feel of the Pro. They weren't THAT dissimilar though.
 

TennisManiac

Hall of Fame
I'm playing the Pro and couldn't be happier. One of the most maneuverable 310+ racquets out there. Plenty of free power from the baseline. Every shot feels solid and predictable. Started off playing Head Hawk but settled on Alu Power at 55lbs. I feel very confident in this setup. I tried the MP but I just missed the solid, heavier feel of the Pro. They weren't THAT dissimilar though.
Have you tried Alu Power at 48 yet? That's the sweet spot for that string in a 97 or 98 inch frame.
 
not yet but I'm going to try 52 next time around. I've always played my best tennis with poly at a little tighter tension. Alu power is not very forgiving outside the sweetspot so a little looser is worth a try. I just hate the sensation of the ball flying on me so I always err on the side of a little tight... Great pairing though with that string in that racquet
 

avocadoz

Professional
I got a chance to hit with the MP and it's a super solid racquet for its weight. I've never liked the Radical line but this new update is legit. I'm surprised it's not a bigger hit. Are people sleeping on it because of previous updates they didnt like or being turned off by the hideous orange pj? It came strung with the orange head lynx tour at 53lbs which I thought complimented the racquet well. It's like a better more comfortable Pure Drive IMO. Surprisingly stable for its weight (especially at net where the PD often fails), good power, and very good control. Although it doesn't hit a heavy serve due to its weight, it's easy to generate pace and placement. More importantly, no achy elbows like the PD after several hours of hitting. I've yet to try the pro but I'm excited to take the pro out for a spin once I get my hand on one. I'm currently playing with the Phantom 100X (305) and will probably make the switch to the radical pending the pro demo.
 
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TennisManiac

Hall of Fame
I got a chance to hit with the MP and it's a super solid racquet for its weight. I've never liked the Radical line but this new update is legit. I'm surprised it's not a bigger hit. Are people sleeping on it because of previous updates they didnt like or being turned off by the hideous orange pj? It came strung with the orange head lynx tour at 53lbs which I thought complimented the racquet well. It's like a better more comfortable Pure Drive IMO. Surprisingly stable for its weight (especially at net where the PD often fails), good power, and very good control. Although it doesn't hit a heavy serve due to its weight, it's easy to generate pace and placement. More importantly, no achy elbows like the PD after several hours of hitting. I've yet to try the pro but I'm excited to take the pro out for a spin once I get my hand on one. I'm currently playing with the Phantom 100X (305) and will probably make the switch to the radical pending the pro demo.
If you liked the MP, you'll love the Pro.
 
So you rate the speed as being more powerful than the rad? How about forgiveness? I'm a 360+ Speed Pro user myself, the racquet I loved the most in quite a long time. While I love its forgiveness, control and reasonable power, I sometimes miss a bit more manoeuvrability, especially on serves and my one hander. If the rad is somewhat as forgiving and with similar power, but faster, I think I should give it a try. Could you compare them a little more?
Yes, the speed has a bit more raw pop, but the Radical isn't far behind. I felt like the Radical was really easy to swing despite its weight and sw due to the thin beam... it felt solid and had heft... but for some reason I could whip it around really easily. I like racquets like that because on balls that you have to catch up to, deep balls, quick adjustments, etc... you can crack the whip and create a lot of speed with little to no back swing and just flick it around, through or over the ball. The Speed Pro doesn't feel as whippy to me (ironic) and it's something I've adjusted to.

I think you can make up for the slight difference in power with the easier to generate rhs on the Rad Pro. I know people tend to struggle more with creating pace on the serve with the Speed Pro. The Rad Pro felt more surgical and fast through the ball on serve which to me makes it a little easier to serve with. I can hit the biggest serves with the Speed Pro, but it can get tricky sometimes on 2nd serve and is a little more difficult. On groundies the slice was also better and easier with the Rad Pro to really knife or float it deep than with the Speed. Also spin is easier to generate on the Rad Pro.

In short the Speed Pro is just a little more challenging in those areas since the Rad Pro is so easy to swing and has that thinner beam. But, for me the Speed Pro still wins out overall as I've been able to adjust to those things. Speed Pro is definitely more comfy... not that the Rad Pro isn't, but there is a definite firmness over the Speed that you can feel underneath that spiral fiber 360+ tech. I'm not so sure how happy my arm would be 6 months down the road compared to the Speed.
 

nov

Semi-Pro
If anybody had a chance to play with Head Radical MP and Head Gravity Tour. How does it compare in terms of control aspect and sweetspot. Do Gravity really have much bigger sweetspot?
 

Mischko

Rookie
both have a lot of control, but they are quite different. gravity tour is nice and soft, but stable, and has a control oriented 18x20 string pattern, flatter ball trajectory. radical mp is more for fast attacking game, not so soft, and with a 16x19 string pattern. that means more spin and a higher launch angle, loopier ball trajectory. gravity tour has a bigger head size and a large sweetspot, it is a noticeable difference. generally gravity tour will be more for holding the ball in play, and radical mp will be more for faster attacking play, but both can do everything well. narrower head size and a 16x19 string pattern in radical mp is usually better for one handed backhand.
 

1HBHfanatic

Legend
If anybody had a chance to play with Head Radical MP and Head Gravity Tour. How does it compare in terms of control aspect and sweetspot. Do Gravity really have much bigger sweetspot?
-yes,
-gravity has a ROUND head, and more open pattern, even though its 18/20
-radicals have more of a RECTANGULAR head, and slightly closed pattern, even though its only 16/19
-control is better on the closed pattern sticks!!
 

MrAvocado232

New User
The MP is much lighter and more head heavy which imo is designed more towards lower level players like 3.0 to 4.0 because at these levels the pace and heaviness of the ball just isn't there.

The Pro is heavier and a tad more head light which I believe is designed more towards advanced players like 4.5 and up because at these levels the pace and heaviness of the ball are significantly higher and you need more mass to absorb and deflect this type of ball. As well as produce your own weight of shot.

Of course you could always add a bunch of weight to the MP to bring it up to where it would need to be in order to use it at these higher levels. But what's the point? Just buy the Pro. And personally for me... the Pro still needs a tad bit more weight to compete at the higher levels. So imo the MP is not even an option worth trying.
do you think mp is the best option for a young (on my twenties) 4.0 player? I am thinking of buying the new radical coming from a blade 18x20 cv but I am hesitant between the mp and the pro, the sw of the pro and the blade is practically the same according to tw but the pro is approx 8 grams more heavy than the blade, this is what really makes me think because i have read many comments that it is a fairly demanding racket. Also the blade has a balance of 4 HL which I like a lot, I feel that it helps to give power to the groundstrokes and to the services, and the radical mp has the same balance while the pro is 2 points more headlight
 

TennisManiac

Hall of Fame
I'm not sure what your build is. And what kind of strength you have. But the way I see things is basically like this. And I'm sure that there will be people who disagree with me. But I don't care, it's my opinion. The MP is for women and weak men who just can't handle the weight of the Pro. And the Pro is for people who can handle a decently weighted frame and has experience playing tennis. Another way look at it is like this. They're both practically going to feel the same because when strung the MP will be more head heavy. So it's not going to be any easier to swing. It'll just be a little easier to play with in the long term scheme of things because it will have a lighter static weight. But it won't necessarily be any easier to play with if that makes sense. I'd buy the Pro if I were you. The MP is the racket that belongs on the womens Tour. The Pro is the racket that belongs on the mens tour. ;)
 
I'm not sure what your build is. And what kind of strength you have. But the way I see things is basically like this. And I'm sure that there will be people who disagree with me. But I don't care, it's my opinion. The MP is for women and weak men who just can't handle the weight of the Pro. And the Pro is for people who can handle a decently weighted frame and has experience playing tennis. Another way look at it is like this. They're both practically going to feel the same because when strung the MP will be more head heavy. So it's not going to be any easier to swing. It'll just be a little easier to play with in the long term scheme of things because it will have a lighter static weight. But it won't necessarily be any easier to play with if that makes sense. I'd buy the Pro if I were you. The MP is the racket that belongs on the womens Tour. The Pro is the racket that belongs on the mens tour. ;)
Schwartzman still plays awesome tennis with a previous iteration of the MP. I guess he is not a "real man".

BTW, it is just a matter of preference. I think each frame would be for people looking for something different. "A little easier to play with" goes a long way on the amateur level, and the MP is the more customisable frame of the two for the amateur players.

:cool:
 

nov

Semi-Pro
I'm not sure what your build is. And what kind of strength you have. But the way I see things is basically like this. And I'm sure that there will be people who disagree with me. But I don't care, it's my opinion. The MP is for women and weak men who just can't handle the weight of the Pro. And the Pro is for people who can handle a decently weighted frame and has experience playing tennis. Another way look at it is like this. They're both practically going to feel the same because when strung the MP will be more head heavy. So it's not going to be any easier to swing. It'll just be a little easier to play with in the long term scheme of things because it will have a lighter static weight. But it won't necessarily be any easier to play with if that makes sense. I'd buy the Pro if I were you. The MP is the racket that belongs on the womens Tour. The Pro is the racket that belongs on the mens tour. ;)
I remember when other my level and lower level people looked at my racquet and said that is girly weight racquet. But when i saw them hitting, how much RHS they putting on the ball, i probably could play with 400gr racquet no problem with that kind of strokes :) Of course i moved to much heavier racquet and have no problems now, but i worked on my fitness hard, improved my footwork. I believe now that heavier racquet is better if you can handle it properly, but it depends a lot on strokes. I didnt played with Radical MP, but 326 SW, 65 RA, static with OG and dampener static should be ~326gr. Thats fine for most players, maybe for 5.0++ you better look at Pro version.
 

TennisManiac

Hall of Fame
Schwartzman still plays awesome tennis with a previous iteration of the MP. I guess he is not a "real man".

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Schwartzman's TGT 260 weighs a whopping 355 grams strung. That's way heavier than a stock Radical Pro that weighs around 330 grams strung. So think about what you're saying before you say it. :rolleyes:
 
Schwartzman's TGT 260 weighs a whopping 355 grams strung. That's way heavier than a stock Radical Pro that weighs around 330 grams strung. So think about what you're saying before you say it. :rolleyes:
The frame is the same MP that anyone could have bought at the time, and modded to his specs. The fact that it is a great platform racquet is only a bonus to the point: the racquet is completely fine to be used by a male pro player, let alone from most recreational players, who will not reach that weight with ANY racquet (Pro or otherwise). Same goes for the new MP.

You went from "the heaviness of the Pro makes it a man's stick", to "people won't benefit from having a heftier racquet". It looks like your only argument here is that the Pro is the "perfect" weight in stock form, and everyone knows that there is no such a thing.

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TennisManiac

Hall of Fame
The frame is the same MP that anyone could have bought at the time, and modded to his specs. The fact that it is a great platform racquet is only a bonus to the point: the racquet is completely fine to be used by a male pro player, let alone from most recreational players, who will not reach that weight with ANY racquet (Pro or otherwise). Same goes for the new MP.

You went from "the heaviness of the Pro makes it a man's stick", to "people won't benefit from having a heftier racquet". It looks like your only argument here is that the Pro is the "perfect" weight in stock form, and everyone knows that there is no such a thing.

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I never insinuated that people wouldn't benefit from a heftier racket. Just the opposite. I believe that people "do" benefit from a heftier racket. Even lower level players. And for the record... as I've stated on theses forums before. I personally think that the Radical Pro needs some additional weight. For me anyhow. I added a 6 gram overgrip and 4 grams of lead to the tip making mine 340 grams and 5 pts. hl. That's perfection for me. Not stock form. So you could imagine how much lead I'd have to add to the MP to bring it into my spec range. Which is why I believe that in stock form the MP is for women and children.
 
I never insinuated that people wouldn't benefit from a heftier racket. Just the opposite.
You just said that Schwartzman's racquet is too heavy, so I urge you to once again read what I have written: I said that you claim that basically the Pro is the "perfect weight" and you seem to confirm it with your words below.


I believe that people "do" benefit from a heftier racket. Even lower level players. And for the record... as I've stated on theses forums before. I personally think that the Radical Pro needs some additional weight. For me anyhow. I added a 6 gram overgrip and 4 grams of lead to the tip making mine 340 grams and 5 pts. hl. That's perfection for me. Not stock form. So you could imagine how much lead I'd have to add to the MP to bring it into my spec range. Which is why I believe that in stock form the MP is for women and children.
Hundreds of thousands of male players play with stock form MPs with specs similar to the Rad MP. That is all that needs to be said about your claim, and you better be better at tennis than all of them, lest some girly stick beats some sense into your head.

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TennisManiac

Hall of Fame
You just said that Schwartzman's racquet is too heavy, so I urge you to once again read what I have written: I said that you claim that basically the Pro is the "perfect weight" and you seem to confirm it with your words below.




Hundreds of thousands of male players play with stock form MPs with specs similar to the Rad MP. That is all that needs to be said about your claim, and you better be better at tennis than all of them, lest some girly stick beats some sense into your head.

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You're one of these guys that never shut up and make no sense. You just keep rambling on and on and on. So I'll place you on my ignore list now and thank God that I'll never have to read another one of your senseless posts again. Bye bye
 

Dansan

Rookie
do you think mp is the best option for a young (on my twenties) 4.0 player? I am thinking of buying the new radical coming from a blade 18x20 cv but I am hesitant between the mp and the pro, the sw of the pro and the blade is practically the same according to tw but the pro is approx 8 grams more heavy than the blade, this is what really makes me think because i have read many comments that it is a fairly demanding racket. Also the blade has a balance of 4 HL which I like a lot, I feel that it helps to give power to the groundstrokes and to the services, and the radical mp has the same balance while the pro is 2 points more headlight

I'm 153lbs, 5'10", 35 years old. The pro is not demanding for me personally.. I swapped the steel trap door weight for some silicone in the butt end handle and a tiny bit of lead at 12, still at around 6-7pts head light strung with OG, dampener....It weighs about 336-340grams and for me it swings fast and easy. If you like head heavy blade type setups, you may wanna stick with the MP. Really should demo both to see what you prefer. The pro has a tight patterned 16x19 which is high on control, and it's a bit string sensitive and tension sensitive. Once dialed in, it stands out for me amongst a lot of great frames. If I am playing a match, I go for the radical pro currently.

But then again, if you want a lower maintenance racquet which is probably the all around easier to use choice and less finicky, straight out of the box easier to deal with - the MP may be for you. Just depends on which one grooves with your strokes and style of play. Go demo them!
 

Return_Ace

Hall of Fame
Made a list of rackets better than the current Radical Pro, guess I can stop following this thread :sneaky::-D:

I'm not sure what your build is. And what kind of strength you have. But the way I see things is basically like this. And I'm sure that there will be people who disagree with me. But I don't care, it's my opinion. The Radical Pro is for women and weak men who just can't handle the weight of the RDS002Tour/PureStrike3rdGenTour/C10Pro. And the RDS002Tour/PureStrike3rdGenTour/C10Pro is for people who can handle a decently weighted frame and has experience playing tennis. Another way look at it is like this. They're both practically going to feel the same because when strung the Radical Pro will be more head heavy. So it's not going to be any easier to swing. It'll just be a little easier to play with in the long term scheme of things because it will have a lighter static weight. But it won't necessarily be any easier to play with if that makes sense. I'd buy the RDS002Tour/PureStrike3rdGenTour/C10Pro if I were you. The Radical Pro is the racket that belongs on the womens Tour. The RDS002Tour/PureStrike3rdGenTour/C10Pro is the racket that belongs on the mens tour. ;)


Note: Please don't take me seriously 8-B
 
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Mischko

Rookie
@MrAvocado232

I suggest that you don't look at specs too much. Two different racquets can have similar or even identical specs, and one can be made for lower swing speeds, and other one can be totally pro. If you don't already know that you need the Radical Pro, I am almost sure that you should go for the MP. Let me explain why. You mention that you play with Blade 18x20 CV, which is comparable to the Radicals. If you regularly feel that your opponents are pushing you back with heavy powerful shots, and that your shots couldn't do the same to them even if you're totally hitting the ball on time and in front of you with all your power, then Blade 18x20 CV is a bit light and you might need Radical Pro. They both require high speed full swings - like on TV - otherwise you'll be pushed into a more defensive style of play, because you're late on the shots or you aren't anticipating them on time. But if your opponents aren't pushing you back with heavy shots, and you can push them back with your Blade 18x20 CV when you hit the ball nicely - go for the Radical MP.
 

time_fly

Hall of Fame
The Radical Pro is very easy to swing and maneuver given its static weight. If you are used to a 305g racquet with more weight in the head like a Blade, the Rad Pro will feel different but not any more demanding. The way a racquet swings has to do with how the weight is distributed and measurements like the static weight, twist weight, and swing weight will give hints but you never know until you try. On paper the Rad Pro isn't much different than the EZONE 98 Tour but in reality, having tried both, the Yonex feels like a total brick compared to the Radical. Even the Dunlop SX 300 Tour, at 310g static, feels far more sluggish. The Radical Pro is more in the vein of a classic thin-beamed, head-light frame like a Phantom 93P that feels surprisingly fast given the measurements.
 

MrAvocado232

New User
@MrAvocado232

I suggest that you don't look at specs too much. Two different racquets can have similar or even identical specs, and one can be made for lower swing speeds, and other one can be totally pro. If you don't already know that you need the Radical Pro, I am almost sure that you should go for the MP. Let me explain why. You mention that you play with Blade 18x20 CV, which is comparable to the Radicals. If you regularly feel that your opponents are pushing you back with heavy powerful shots, and that your shots couldn't do the same to them even if you're totally hitting the ball on time and in front of you with all your power, then Blade 18x20 CV is a bit light and you might need Radical Pro. They both require high speed full swings - like on TV - otherwise you'll be pushed into a more defensive style of play, because you're late on the shots or you aren't anticipating them on time. But if your opponents aren't pushing you back with heavy shots, and you can push them back with your Blade 18x20 CV when you hit the ball nicely - go for the Radical MP.
That is a very good point which I had not taken into account, in fact I have felt on some occasions that I cannot answer correctly some balls that come very heavy despite anticipating and hitting them with a correct swing. Another important aspect that i dont mention is that in my backhand I am a bit short of power since I had a fracture in my left arm (im righthanded), and when i hit my 2HDBH I feel some pain due to the vibrations with my blade, so now Im also considering the gravity pro, since it is a very arm friendly racket and with good control and power, in addition to having a closed pattern like my blade which is convenient for me since I like to hit flatter shots. Have you had the chance to test this gravity? It has a very similar SW to the blade so I imagine I will not have difficulties to maneuver it also being more headlight, and on the other hand I imagine it is much more stable as it is heavier, being similar to the case of the radical pro but helping me more with the pain in my arm when hitting a backhand shot.
 

Mischko

Rookie
Gravity Pro is even more "pro" and demanding than Radical Pro, but it is softer. You should try them all to form an idea. Gravity Pro has a wide head, a lot of weight in the tip of the frame, so it can be difficult to maneuver, and is fantastic when you want to destroy the ball. It has a huge sweet spot, and solid spin, more spin than Blade 18x20 for sure. But Blade 18x20 is definitely easier to swing. Gravity Pro also not only entices you to swing as fast as you can, but actually requires you to. Excellent racquet, and great for double handers, less so for single handers like me. I think that Head made it for Zverev, but now Rublev plays with it, so that gives you an idea.

You should also consider Gravity Tour, I tried that one too. Excellent racquet, just like Gravity Pro but gives slightly more power on a slower swing, and is easier to swing. Just as soft, also large sweet spot.
 

GermanBeast

New User
Today, I tried the 360+ radical pro. It was strung with lynx tour.

It is a really nice racquet, but you have to be on a high level to get most out of it. For me, it is very demanding and low powered, but it felt very light. The stringed was really tight. It reminds me of youtek IG prestige pro.
My groundstrokes felt nice, but I noticed that I had to swing fast and be focussed all the time to not going too short. So, you have to have a good technique, footwork and a high fitness level to hit with good pace and power for long matches and rallies. It could be really tough on clay if you're playing against an opponent, who only pushes the ball. My hitting partner played 5 shots and no one was longer than the T-line. He puts it away immediately.

All in all it is a racquet which has phenomenal control. The feel is also very nice. It is crisp but not too harsh. For me it is definitely the wrong racquet. I demoed it against Wilson blade 98 v7 and with this I could get much more easy access to spin and power by enough control.

The result was a bit disappointing. I hoped, I could replace my youtek IG radical pro with the 360+ radical pro, but for me the youtek IG is the winner by far.
It has better power, better access to spin, feel is way better and much more comfortable. Control is better with 360+, but that was it.

The blade 98 v7 was a positive surprise. I like it a lot. Maybe, I will switching to it.
 

Dansan

Rookie
Today, I tried the 360+ radical pro. It was strung with lynx tour.

It is a really nice racquet, but you have to be on a high level to get most out of it. For me, it is very demanding and low powered, but it felt very light. The stringed was really tight. It reminds me of youtek IG prestige pro.
My groundstrokes felt nice, but I noticed that I had to swing fast and be focussed all the time to not going too short. So, you have to have a good technique, footwork and a high fitness level to hit with good pace and power for long matches and rallies. It could be really tough on clay if you're playing against an opponent, who only pushes the ball. My hitting partner played 5 shots and no one was longer than the T-line. He puts it away immediately.

All in all it is a racquet which has phenomenal control. The feel is also very nice. It is crisp but not too harsh. For me it is definitely the wrong racquet. I demoed it against Wilson blade 98 v7 and with this I could get much more easy access to spin and power by enough control.

The result was a bit disappointing. I hoped, I could replace my youtek IG radical pro with the 360+ radical pro, but for me the youtek IG is the winner by far.
It has better power, better access to spin, feel is way better and much more comfortable. Control is better with 360+, but that was it.

The blade 98 v7 was a positive surprise. I like it a lot. Maybe, I will switching to it.
What tension was the radical pro ?

I had a similar experience with the pro ...until I tried different strings and tension. It was like a different racquet
 

nov

Semi-Pro
Today, I tried the 360+ radical pro. It was strung with lynx tour.

It is a really nice racquet, but you have to be on a high level to get most out of it. For me, it is very demanding and low powered, but it felt very light. The stringed was really tight. It reminds me of youtek IG prestige pro.
My groundstrokes felt nice, but I noticed that I had to swing fast and be focussed all the time to not going too short. So, you have to have a good technique, footwork and a high fitness level to hit with good pace and power for long matches and rallies. It could be really tough on clay if you're playing against an opponent, who only pushes the ball. My hitting partner played 5 shots and no one was longer than the T-line. He puts it away immediately.

All in all it is a racquet which has phenomenal control. The feel is also very nice. It is crisp but not too harsh. For me it is definitely the wrong racquet. I demoed it against Wilson blade 98 v7 and with this I could get much more easy access to spin and power by enough control.

The result was a bit disappointing. I hoped, I could replace my youtek IG radical pro with the 360+ radical pro, but for me the youtek IG is the winner by far.
It has better power, better access to spin, feel is way better and much more comfortable. Control is better with 360+, but that was it.

The blade 98 v7 was a positive surprise. I like it a lot. Maybe, I will switching to it.
Did you tried Gravity Tour/Pro?
 

jhick

Hall of Fame
If you liked the MP, you'll love the Pro.
4.5 here and I prefer the MP over the Pro. Then again head light racquets generally don't appeal to me as I find them hard to maneuver especially at the net, and since I mostly play an attacking game and generally play more doubles. But each to their own. The biggest adjustment I've had over my old liquidmetal radical OS is that the sweet spot is smaller, so off center hits and directional angled hitting is more challenging. But the added power and pinpoint control kind of makes up for that.
 

GermanBeast

New User
Radical Pro have lower launch angle compared to GTour?
yes, the launch angle from GTour was a little bit higher, but not much. Also it offers more free power than the rad pro.
Overall the GTour is much easier to play with, but if you have a good technique, the rad pro will be the better racquet.
 

TennisManiac

Hall of Fame
Honestly the difference between the two racquets is not all that big so you need to stop with your sexist insulting of those who prefer the MP over the Pro.
I was just being a smart as s. The MP is a nice racket as well. I keep hearing a lot of positive feedback about it. Some people prefer it over the Pro. And vice versa. To each their own.
 

MrAvocado232

New User
Gravity Pro is even more "pro" and demanding than Radical Pro, but it is softer. You should try them all to form an idea. Gravity Pro has a wide head, a lot of weight in the tip of the frame, so it can be difficult to maneuver, and is fantastic when you want to destroy the ball. It has a huge sweet spot, and solid spin, more spin than Blade 18x20 for sure. But Blade 18x20 is definitely easier to swing. Gravity Pro also not only entices you to swing as fast as you can, but actually requires you to. Excellent racquet, and great for double handers, less so for single handers like me. I think that Head made it for Zverev, but now Rublev plays with it, so that gives you an idea.

You should also consider Gravity Tour, I tried that one too. Excellent racquet, just like Gravity Pro but gives slightly more power on a slower swing, and is easier to swing. Just as soft, also large sweet spot.
Since I do not have the possibility to test rackets before buying them, I experimented by adding weight to my blade in its throat using a couple of coins, I took it from 328g to 345g (with dampener and overgrip), the balance practically did not change, I would say that It increased very slightly towards being a little little more headlight, no idea how much the swingweight change since I have no way to know it. Surprisingly after a good hitting session I realized that I had no problems with the weight, I was able to handle the racket without problems, obviously it felt heavier but i did not feel at all overstressed, what's more, it felt much more solid in the hits, more stable so to speak, especially on my backhand. Given this I think I would not have problems with the gravity pro, since this racket is approximately 10 grams lighter than my modified blade, although, the quality control of this gravity model scares me a bit, since I have seen some people commenting that they get different swingweights and balances than those indicated in the specifications (the tour I have not considered since it is not for sale here, there is only the mp and the pro).
 
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