Gage Brymer court action

Nice videos! I really want to see him live he likes really good.

Look at that footwork! mini mini steps :shock:
 
No doubt he's good, but his competition is hitting slow short balls right up the middle.
And talk about no serves coming at him.
For a player to look good, he needs more than average competition. Maybe his hitting partner is very good, but in this vid, he's hitting short, really short, and up the middle.
 
Which video is this? Playing him, he hits every shot with a low margin of error (foot over net), however he always seems to catch the baseline and those shots are very hard to get. Not to mention hes very solid off both sides and his placement is very good.

In these videos hes in the CIF individuals tournament. His only weakness is that serve(its not big enough) but his groundstrokes can make a top pro smile.
 
1st and 3rd vid, a weak girly serve is coming at him.
2nd vid, his hitting partner, who could be very good, or not, hits short medium speed balls only. Those shots land about 3' past the service line, and anyone can smack those.
I'm not saying the kid is not good. He's probably very talented and a true groundstroking baseline beast, but he still needs decent competition to show off any of his real skills. He has no competition in those vids..
 
Yes those people are not top ranked people. I guess Ill video him next friday playing some real competition such as Parker Glore, Trevor Dell, Stefan menichella.

Ill put it up after
 
Kinda the case when the Greek guy posted a vid of a top 10 Greek player. Yes, he was good. NO, his opponent only fetched back short weak, slow balls, making the Greek guy look like GOD. Only thing is, Greek guy is a Q guy, so not really "good" when compared to 500 guys ahead of him.
Of course, the Greek guy could beat most of us, but we don't claim to be a pro men's player.
 
Gotta admit, I'd hate going thru tennis life playing pusher after pusher, always creating pace and action, and everyone else just trying to hang around only.
Lucky for me, I get and got to play vs much bigger, stronger, faster guys than myself, so I was never in his position. And most of them harder hitting than me.
 
LeeD said:
1st and 3rd vid, a weak girly serve is coming at him.
2nd vid, his hitting partner, who could be very good, or not, hits short medium speed balls only. Those shots land about 3' past the service line, and anyone can smack those.
I'm not saying the kid is not good. He's probably very talented and a true groundstroking baseline beast, but he still needs decent competition to show off any of his real skills. He has no competition in those vids..
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Why not edit out girly and say weak instead? No offense, I have seen your video, most of the top girls in FL. serve much harder. And those are just the 12 year olds.
 
@tenniscoachFLA: yes, but i was just trying to get a vid of him even though he was playing someone bad. In Gage's own words: "well, hes a nice person. We were talking while playing."
the kid new he had no chance. lost 0-6 0-6

Gage got a easy draw for CIF. He got a bye into first round, and played a kid who was a joke to tennis(but the kid won his divison 5 league). Then he plays my friend Kevin Young from Marina who miraculously got 2 games off of Gage. However, he wanted 4.

Next Gage might be playing my other friend Parker Glore who is kinda like johnny wang. I just hope for good rallies to record. But overall for everyone the draw is messed up. Its a draw of 256 but Gage has to play Stefan for round of 16 if he beats parker.
 
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I won't argue my serves suck, but then, being 62 sucks also.
But notice, Gage is playing weaker players not only in hard hitting skill, but in overall tennis ability. Sometimes, he needs 6 points to win a game, but edited as is, usually 4 point and game.
Once again, we get back to Greek guy, Mr.Aphex vids. He shows guys of obvious Q ability playing opponent's one full level below. Sure, his vid guy looks great, but given the level of competition, that's a sure thing. Who can judge based on level of opponent?
Show a vid of RogerFederer toying with a 5.0, you can say Roger is top 3 in the world based on only that vid.
 
LeeD said:
I won't argue my serves suck, but then, being 62 sucks also.
But notice, Gage is playing weaker players not only in hard hitting skill, but in overall tennis ability. Sometimes, he needs 6 points to win a game, but edited as is, usually 4 point and game.
Once again, we get back to Greek guy, Mr.Aphex vids. He shows guys of obvious Q ability playing opponent's one full level below. Sure, his vid guy looks great, but given the level of competition, that's a sure thing. Who can judge based on level of opponent?
Show a vid of RogerFederer toying with a 5.0, you can say Roger is top 3 in the world based on only that vid.
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Thats why i put up the Ojai final:) against another top kid so you guys can see the real Gage
 
You're putting a lot of pressure on Gage to succeed in the ATP's when his Dad decides he's ready for Q's and Futures.
There, he faces adults who can hit real serves, who can go for first strike tennis, and who can hit as hard as he can....which is VERY hard.
I've played in 2 Q's. The competition varies from top high school (Gage would win bagels), to guys who went to the FINALS of the Main for the Q. Gage would lose.
 
LeeD said:
You're putting a lot of pressure on Gage to succeed in the ATP's when his Dad decides he's ready for Q's and Futures.
There, he faces adults who can hit real serves, who can go for first strike tennis, and who can hit as hard as he can....which is VERY hard.
I've played in 2 Q's. The competition varies from top high school (Gage would win bagels), to guys who went to the FINALS of the Main for the Q. Gage would lose.
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no he won't likely be going pro, not with that serve but if he fixes that he might have a chance. Im very skeptical about kids going pro but he can get to Marcos Giron status since Gage is only 15. However, he can be a teaching pro since hes going to be playing in the junior davis cup.
 
Did I knock Gage, or did I question how good he really is if he was not playing a pusher.
Some guys react positively against soft, highball pushers.
Some guys react negatively and lose interest.
Gage reacts positively against pushers.
Pushers tend to clear the net lots, swing slow, hit soft, have weak serves, and need to rely on speed and court coverage to do well.
Gage punishes pushers.
 
You have no idea who your talking about here. Look at Gage's results, he has wins over every type of player out there. And Johnny has quite a few big wins as well, you think he wins by just getting the ball back?? Johnny places the ball well and works the angles to win points. Gage and Johnny are both great players but Gage really is on another level, Johnny couldnt work his shots in Ojai because Gage was firing shots into the corners. If Gage keeps moving his level of play up there is no reason he couldnt go pro if he wanted, for sure he has AT LEAST a very bright future at the D1 level.
 
TennisCoachFLA said:
Why not edit out girly and say weak instead? No offense, I have seen your video, most of the top girls in FL. serve much harder. And those are just the 12 year olds.
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Haha, I love the "no offense" before the "you serve like a 12 year old girl."

I get your point, though. A lot of those top girls, even the young ones, have surprisingly wicked serves.
 
This kid is incredible. I see no reason why he can't go pro, he just needs to fix his serve. He'll dominate in a Div.1 college, and he could get a good training program and coach at the college to make him beef up and work that serve. Johnny Wang is no loser, that Gage is just really good. Look at his TRN page. He's 15, but winning 18's tournaments.
 
TOURNAMENTS
- 2011 Easter Bowl Boys 16s Singles Champion
- 2011 Easter Bowl Boys 16s Sportsmanship Award Recipient
-2011 66th Annual Fullerton Jr. Tournament Singles and Doubles Champion 16's
-2011 Palm Desert Regional Singles Champion 18's
-2010 Irvine National Opens Singles and Doubles Champion 16's
-2010 Dunlop Jr. Singles Championship 16's
- 2010 108th Annual Southern California Jr. Sectionals
Championships Singles Champion 16's
- 2010 Quicksilver Junior Championships Singles Champion 16's
- 2010 USTA National Opens Singles 3rd Place 16's
- 2009 Boys 14's #1 Ranked Player (Final Rankings)
- 2009 Boys 14's USTA National Winter Championships Singles Champion
- 2009 Boys 14's USTA National Opens presented by City of Irvine Singles and Doubles Champion
- 2009 Boys 14's Dunlop Junior Championships Singles Champion
- 2009 Boys 14's USTA National Opens Singles Finalist, Doubles Champion
 
HIGH SCHOOL
- 2011 Pacific Coast League Singles Champion
- 2011 Ojai CIF (Boys 18s) Singles Champion
- 2011 All American High School Team Champions
- 2011 Chosen to the High School All American Team
- 2011 All American High School Tournament MVP
- 2010 Southern California CIF Champions (23-0)
- 2010 Pacific Coast League Singles Champion
- 2010 National Highschool Tennis All-American Tournament Individually Undefeated (8-0) Singles (8-0) Doubles
- Selected 2010 National Highschool All-Amercian Team
- Selected 2010 First Team All County
- Selected 2010 All City Team
 
Yeah hes the reason the colleges aren't giving that much scholarships. They're saving for him. If he goes to UCLA then they'll have Marcos Giron and him.
 
Really interesting videos. Always wondered how Wang aka Mr Consistency would match up against a top junior. Brymer really does hit a great ball.

Thanks for posting the videos.
 
Limpinhitter said:
That's solid 6.0 level tennis
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I don't think you can really introduce adult NTRP ratings into this. Yes, he has the technical strokes but an adult 6.0 competition grade player is a very different animal to a 16 old junior, not least because of the physical advantage.

Don't get me wrong, I really like the way this kid hits and he obviously has a ton of talent as well as potential, but he's also still pretty young, and nowhere near fully developed physically, so not's as if he can't be outhit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACqDcuAK1iM

The real barometer is going to be what he's like in two or three years time.
 
USERNAME said:
LOL! Doubt it. J.Wang is a verrry good player, the guy is a machine and rarely misses. Gage had to play well and at very high level to beat him, yet you still knock him.
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Sorry, by a few videos I looked at... Johnny Wang is quite a bit worse than Gage Brymer. In fact, Wang is a pusher by the looks of a few videos. He is a borderline retriever but has no real weapons.

Brymer on the other hand is at a complete level above. Unbelievable aggression and weapons. Better serve, to boot.

That video of the match between Wang and Brymer looked like a slaughter to me. Unless this was edited as only a Brymer highlight film... and left all of Wang's amazing points out.
 
mightyrick said:
Sorry, by a few videos I looked at... Johnny Wang is quite a bit worse than Gage Brymer. In fact, Wang is a pusher by the looks of a few videos. He is a borderline retriever but has no real weapons.

Brymer on the other hand is at a complete level above. Unbelievable aggression and weapons. Better serve, to boot.

That video of the match between Wang and Brymer looked like a slaughter to me. Unless this was edited as only a Brymer highlight film... and left all of Wang's amazing points out.
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SEVERELY EDITED. The final score I think was 6-2, 7-5.
 
mightyrick said:
Sorry, by a few videos I looked at... Johnny Wang is quite a bit worse than Gage Brymer. In fact, Wang is a pusher by the looks of a few videos. He is a borderline retriever but has no real weapons.

Brymer on the other hand is at a complete level above. Unbelievable aggression and weapons. Better serve, to boot.

That video of the match between Wang and Brymer looked like a slaughter to me. Unless this was edited as only a Brymer highlight film... and left all of Wang's amazing points out.
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It was a highlight film. The score was 6-2 7-5.
 
mightyrick said:
Sorry, by a few videos I looked at... Johnny Wang is quite a bit worse than Gage Brymer. In fact, Wang is a pusher by the looks of a few videos. He is a borderline retriever but has no real weapons.

Brymer on the other hand is at a complete level above. Unbelievable aggression and weapons. Better serve, to boot.

That video of the match between Wang and Brymer looked like a slaughter to me. Unless this was edited as only a Brymer highlight film... and left all of Wang's amazing points out.
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Ever seen him play in person? Ever had him as a hitting partner? He isnt a pusher, he moves the ball around very well and can hit winners if he SEES an opening. That vid was a highlight for the champ, Gage, so its not really fair to base judgement on that. I do believe that as Gage gets older he will easily pass up Johnny but for now he is still growing and showing TONS of potential.
 
USERNAME said:
Ever seen him play in person? Ever had him as a hitting partner? He isnt a pusher, he moves the ball around very well and can hit winners if he SEES an opening. That vid was a highlight for the champ, Gage, so its not really fair to base judgement on that. I do believe that as Gage gets older he will easily pass up Johnny but for now he is still growing and showing TONS of potential.
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Read my last post. I recanted my position. I didn't realize the posted videos were Gage Brymer highlight reels.

Nobody can draw any conclusions about anything from a highlight reel... except to say that the person they highlight is supposed to be shown in a very favorable light and the opponent is shown in a very unfavorable light.
 
Very good 18 and under tennis. I wasn't thinking that Gage was all that special until they said he was a Sophmore. If he can keep improving and make his serve a big weapon, he could be great by 18.
 
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