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  1. Nostradamus

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    WOW, Worse monsters ??? like what. Can other kings tame one of these worse monsters and use them to destroy the Dragons ?

    And when these dragons grow up, can we assume that Princess will once again hold power over the world ???
     
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    I will respectfully disagree. Everything I read says it is the most expensive. Even if I am incorrect and there are more expensive shows, it is HUGELY expensive. It is not low budget by any stretch. I do agree that in order to tell a more complete story they need more resources and more episodes.
    http://www.celebritynetworth.com/ar...ve-american-tv-series/#!/game-of-thrones_322/
    http://www.yourtv.com.au/slideshow/179993/the-most-expensive-tv-series-ever-made.slideshow
    http://www.cnbc.com/id/100381004
    http://wire.arts.ubc.ca/featured/ubc-prof-on-the-popularity-of-game-of-thrones/
     
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    I think people have to be reasonable here. They work hard all year to get 10 episodes out. Each one is a thing of beauty and much closer to what movies have traditionally been than TV. They can only do so much.

    I too would like more episodes, but I think they are stuck on 10 for good reason.
     
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    Also don’t forget these children are going to grow up. So they need to film as much as they can to keep up with the ages from the book. That said in the books the principal players ie Daenerys (13) Rickon (was about three years old when mama abandon him and Bran), Robb was about fourteen.
     
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    I actually don't mind if HBO finishes the series before GRRM with his books. Book 4 and 5 are nowhere near the standards set forth by his first 3. Too many new characters showing up while the ones we have learned to care do nothing but traveling. At this point, I am less excited about book 6/7 and don't care to wait another ? years for him to finish the series.

    Maybe HBO can do a better job in wrapping it all up.
     
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  6. Bobby Jr

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    It seemed a lot like what you said > "The series is relatively low/limited budget and they a lot with what they get."

    They film in Ireland, Malta, Croatia, etc to keep costs down and it still cost that much. Some of those places they pay crew 1/10th what they do in the US. Filming offshore can reduce production costs by over 50% in some cases.
    It cost $14m for the pilot episode and then $4m per episode thereafter. That's less than GOT and included having to pay a stack of high paid actors (compared to GOT at least - Matthew Fox, Terry O'Quinn, Jorge Garcia etc in later seasons were on big $$)

    You talked about GOT in terms of keeping production costs down by not filming battles/outdoors etc and then cite a stack of shows, some of which cost tons purely because of the truly massive acting fees - Friends and Seinfeld especially. Which is it?

    Comparing it to Two and Half Men... though - less than half the episodes of any 2.5 Men season (other than the one where Sheen went awol) and no big actors to pay $1m an episode. It's not really a like for like comparison there.
     
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    I don't think anything else can defeat the 'whitewalkers' can they? It would have to be dragons or a big army. Daenerys rocks!
     
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    We'll have to wait and see, but the White Walkers appear to need to be burned to actually die sooooooo.
     
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    And they keep talking about winter coming and its going to be strong one. So maybe it ends up being Snow and a Horde of Walkers facing Dany and her fleet of Dragons.

    From what Ive read about GRRM he is writing 6 and 7 at the same time sort of. With so much story and people to cover he probably starts writing one persons arc and ends up with more material than expected. I say he dies before he finishes this thing.
     
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    I thought that the obsidian or dragon glass weapons had some effect on the WW.
     
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    You're right. I'm getting white walkers and wights mixed up! Wights need the burning!!
     
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    Yiks I forgot about them, are they the freshly dead?
     
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    Thanks for the explanation. So the WW are not the old dead, but a different race for lack of a better word than the wights? Now that guy (forgot his name) that sacrificed all his male children, was it to keep the WW away?
     
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    Thanks Gavna you're a fount of information. I did read all the books except the last one, but some of the details have been forgotten.

    Okay all these Wildlings who are they? It’s all jumbled in my memory but I thought it had to do with when the Targaryens conquered Westeros. Some of the people split up and moved north of the wall and now the WW are pushing them south again.
     
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    Tell that to Ygritte.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xFHX3oGXO4
     
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  16. Govnor

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    These 55 minutes go by so quickly. I couldn't believe it when the credits ran last night. Really enjoyed the Dani scene with the slave lord and the dragons. The Theon scene was just wrong.....
     
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    Have to say that the Ramsay Bolton / Theon Greyjoy storyline is just disturbing. Did they really have to string it out for so long?
     
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    I've only seen the vids on youtube and yes it is quite disturbing. The producers had really no choice but to play Theon's torture out in season 3 because if they waited to follow the books they'd have to wait till season 6. Not likely the actor will stick around waiting years to finally be used.
     
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    I think the answer is yes they did. I don't want to go in to spoilers as there could be non-book readers coming to this thread.
     
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    I don't understand why - it seems gratuitous and unpleasant to watch. You quickly get a sense of what's going with the first few scenes between them - why do you need even more. It's obvious Ramsay's a sadist.
     
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    I don't actually find Greyjoy a hateful character. He's just misguided and a boy pretending to me a man. His speech at Winterfell before his fathers troops turned on him and knocked him out, made me laugh! At least he was trying to be a leader even if he was failing miserably! Seems a shame that's getting treated so badly by Ramsay. I'm starting to think that Ramsay is more sadistic than Joffrey, or at least just as bad. At least you can explain the latter as a spoilt brat whose power has gone to his head.
     
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    I'm thinking they did need to go over the top more for the future, than for the past.
     
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    What do you think, Iwan Rheon (Ramsay the sadistic pig) and Rob Thomas (Matchbox 20) were separated at birth?
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  24. Govnor

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    pretty damn close!
     
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    Has the Dragons start to fight in battle or War yet ?
     
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    I'm feeling sorry for Theon already!
     
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  27. Govnor

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    I don't think it's all about Theon though either.
     
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    For a major house, the Greyjoys don't get much for scenes. Theon getting tortured is just a put-off, even though I can't stand him. When is Balon going to kick the bucket... all of his ideas have done wonders for his sons. Then again is he any worse at parenting than Ned Stark?

    I'm losing my faith in Robb Stark. At this point I wouldn't trust him to run a 7-eleven. Tywin hasn't had to do much to frustrate the 'King in the North.' His list of follies would make Gen. Santa Anna look like a genius.
     
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    So we have two episodes left, and now we will have to wait two weeks for the next one. What gives?
     
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  30. norbac

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    Memorial Day weekend ratings dip I'm guessing.
     
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    Thanks, I forgot all about MD.
     
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    Yeah, I think they decided to postpone for a week because of the dip they've seen the last two years. I think they want to make sure Episode 29 has everyone talking at work the next morning, considering episode 9 of the seasons has been the biggie, so far.
     
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    These last few episodes have been a bit slow and feel like they're 'treading' water too much, with nothing much going on between the different 'Houses'.

    The only interesting storyline with some semblence of action has been the Daenerys storyline. All the other storylines seem to be either people pointlessly running about in the snow or politiking at Kings Landing. Even the Ep9 preview doesn't look that thrilling (nothing seems to be able to top the Battle of Blackwater Bay episode!)

    Can't wait for the Stark wedding....but have read a plot spoiler unfortunately :-(
     
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    If you care about spoilers and watching this show, I would honestly just avoid anything about the show online, idiots will try their best to spoil it for everyone these days.
     
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    Was trying to catch up on the pre tv series background about Aegon etc by reading Wiki but came across the Rob Stark story arc by accident.... :-(
     
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    I think the safest thing to do is just stick to the HBO guides. Just too much out there waiting to be spoiled!
     
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    You have take your hat off for the effort. haha
     
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  39. Bobby Jr

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    The thing that's starting to get me about the TV series is how much they're diverging from the books.

    In the beginning the series seemed mostly to just omit stuff to make the story move quicker but now they're altering quite significant parts of the story which they'll have to keep changed so they match the book later on when some character's paths cross again.

    I can understand the difficulty in making such an epic into a TV series but think they could have paced it out a little more. There's plenty enough in the books to keep it interesting. I think also (like 'Lost') they'll get into a position where it's obvious they're onto such a winner they'll get asked by the studio to drag it out for an extra season or two.
     
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    Does anybody know if the finally next week is one or two hours? I think we were cheated out of about five minutes give or take tonight. I’ve read the books up to this point so not any surprises. And if you think things are going fast now just wait.
    I am so impressed with the actors who play the Stark kids. They make me want to reread the books.
     
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    They've all been one hour so far, so I would assume the same.

    Brutal episode, I guess they had to go all out though.
     
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    After tonight's episode.... Speechless....
     
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    This is the episode I'll be scouring the web to catch. I've read spoilers to get an idea what should happen, but I got to watch it anyway.
     
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    So this episode indeed is the one where stuff gets real. I can't stand the Lannisters, but the "Rains of Castamere" just sticks to my head at times.
     
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    When I got about halfway through the first book, I came to the conclusion that this author slices and dices with impunity. And try not to get too attached to animals or characters. But every time it happened I was not prepared for it.
     
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    SPOILERS******Glad the Robb Stark storyline is over. Will give more time to other, more interesting story arcs, in my opinion. Very well done tonight, though. Ominous mood all around during the wedding.******SPOILERS

    Really enjoying the Taergaryen storyline most of all.
     
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  47. soyizgood

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    ^^^^
    Some of us live on the West Coast. It's not 9PM PST here yet.

    That's okay. I already knew about GRRM hating on that noble family yet again. I'm guessing Joffrey's wedding happens in season 4.
     
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    Oops, sorry.
     
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    WHAT! I mean WHAT!?!?!
     
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    Season 3 covers parts of book 3 (both parts) as well as the tail end of book 2. However they wont get all of book 3 into this season. They've only covered about 60% of book 3's timeline so far.

    The TV series will likely get more out of sync with the books in future to make the TV flow better and to reconcile the changes they've made to the story.
     

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