Gamewise which ATG in his Prime would be the hardest matchup for Alcaraz ?

Historically which ATG would be the hardest matchup for Alcaraz ?

  • Prime Federer would perform the best vs Alcaraz

    Votes: 19 35.2%

  • Prime Nadal would perform the best vs Alcaraz

    Votes: 12 22.2%

  • Prime Djokovic would perform the best vs Alcaraz

    Votes: 8 14.8%

  • Prime Sampras would perform the best vs Alcaraz

    Votes: 15 27.8%

  • Someone else (Mention in Comments)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    54
StrongRule said:
He totally collapsed in DO after just 2 sets, gifting the 36 years old a slam which he struggled to win even during his absolute peak.
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Carlos beat Novak at Wimbledon, but you’re so stubborn and salty that you can’t even give him an ounce of credit for that. Sad!
 
Rosstour said:
You don't appear to be using much TBH

Saying "Djokovic is too tough for Alcaraz" after Alcaraz prevailed in the Final of Djok's best Slam is some really creative thinking
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He’s just stubborn. He was so convinced that Novak would beat Carlos at Wimbledon (or pretended to be) that he can’t give the kid credit.
 
Nadal probably can do better on clay against Alcaraz, but his baseline game is not as good as Alcaraz.
Alcaraz is like a younger version of current Djokovic, not as good a peak Djokovic yet.
On HC, Alcaraz probably does better in baseline game against Federer. But it's hard to play an imaginary game.
Against Djokovic, Alcaraz is still growing. 2011 2015 version of Djokovic beats current Alcaraz with no problem.
 
StrongRule said:
He totally collapsed in DO after just 2 sets, gifting the 36 years old a slam which he struggled to win even during his absolute peak.
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Nobody is at their absolute peak at 19-20

Absolute peak most of the times is 22-23, even Nadal was 22+ in 2008-09 period.
 
Rosstour said:
You don't appear to be using much TBH

Saying "Djokovic is too tough for Alcaraz" after Alcaraz prevailed in the Final of Djok's best Slam is some really creative thinking
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Best slam? His best slam always was AO. As for Wimbledon, he just massively overachieved there due to total lack of competition. During his prime he won 3 Wimbledon titles. So yeah, only by the standards of this era a 20 years old Alcaraz might be considered an ATG for barely beating a 36 years old Djokovic there.
 
alexio said:
maybe 24-25 more like no?
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Agreed, you can even be at your peak as late as 27 (remember Tyson Gay ran his fastest 100M time 40 days after his 27th birthday). So you can stretch your body to the extreme at 27 which explains why 2015 was a great year for Nole at 27-28.

However I am taking a conservative estimate for someone injury prone & speed dependent like Nadal, he was at his best at 22.5, so that should be the minimum benchmark.
 
I would say Nadal on clay has the best chances (and is probably a solid favorite), but taking every surface into account, I'd say Nadal and Djokovic are both in the conversation.

I think Federer would get cooked on every surface except indoor hard.
 
Alcaraz cannot be beaten physically alone, he also plays the psychology game as well. He would be the 2rd best at it, of all the active players. If he becomes the best at it, it's time for Djokovic to retire.

I agree Federer was never good at the psychology game, at least compared to other ATG's.
 
TheNachoMan said:
Carlos beat Novak at Wimbledon, but you’re so stubborn and salty that you can’t even give him an ounce of credit for that. Sad!
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Players like Nadal and Medvedev never get any credit here for beating Djokovic, so why suddenly Alcaraz deserves credit for barely beating a 36 yeard old Djokovic? Just because he is liked more here? As if Djokovic fans actually like him, LOL. The only thing you like is using him to bash the achievements of young Nadal. And also the fact that he gifted you a DO title on the plate.
 
StrongRule said:
Players like Nadal and Medvedev never get any credit here for beating Djokovic, so why suddenly Alcaraz deserves credit for barely beating a 36 yeard old Djokovic? Just because he is liked more here? As if Djokovic fans actually like him, LOL. The only thing you like is using him to bash the achievements of young Nadal. And also the fact that he gifted you a DO title on the plate.
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You are obsessed with the slam race. Let it go, bud.
 
I feel like Murray would give him a good run for his money, Murray has always had excellent reading ability and is just as quick around the court and would slow down the pace of Alcaraz's shots and Andy has always been excellent at chasing down drop-shots and coming to the net off the cuff. Really do feel like Murray would neutralize a lot of his game.
 
Nadal at his Parisian dirt farm is obviously the hardest matchup for anyone. Sampras or Rog on the lawn would be able to beat Carlos as they would anybody else, similar on a fast hard court — whoever's serve-return game is best on the day probably wins. And those guys' serves were significantly better than Carlos'. Prime Djokovic can of course win any match that is not a dirt fight with the aforementioned Parisian bull.

Let's not get it twisted, if Carlos came out against prime Federer, spraying errors and getting hurried as he is often wont to do, you might be shocked at how rapidly and ruthlessly he would be dispatched. But Carlos would probably win most matches with Roger that go down to the wire with a lot of highly pressured points/games. That's the most interesting match up of the lot to think about, to me. It could produce some of the greatest displays of shotmaking ever seen.
 
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Terenigma said:
I feel like Murray would give him a good run for his money, Murray has always had excellent reading ability and is just as quick around the court and would slow down the pace of Alcaraz's shots and Andy has always been excellent at chasing down drop-shots and coming to the net off the cuff. Really do feel like Murray would neutralize a lot of his game.
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Nice thinking.
 
NedStark said:
Add Tommy Paul next to Sinner then you are right there.
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Exactly. Andre would be licking his chops at those elongated strokes, and he’d bully Carlos’s serve all over the shop. I honestly feel like Andre on HC would be even better in this era than in his own.
 
Kralingen said:
Sampras, Agassi, then the Big 3. In that order.

If Carlos can get rushed by the likes of Sinner wait until he faces Andre. And Sampras doesn’t give you any time period.
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Agassi? I don't agree: a great hitter of the tennis ball, but very heavy feet (by elite standards).
Sampras? yes, for sure. Pete would eat this kid up.
 
Both Federer and Nadal would give Carlos a lot problems in their primes.
Federer fast, aggressive and varied game with his accurate serve and Nadal with his incredible stamina, defense and powerful topspin.
Carlos is not yet in his prime and would challenge them too but as right now the peak of Roger and Rafa is higher than current Carlos.
 
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