Gamewise which ATG in his Prime would be the hardest matchup for Alcaraz ?
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Vincent-C
Legend
Please tell me when you think AA was a good mover, by top standards.
Not my first rodeo..
Yeah, his entire career before 2003-05.
NeutralFan
G.O.A.T.
Nadal's baseline game is not as good as Carlos?dude give me the stuff you're smoking lol.
Vincent-C
Legend
NeutralFan
G.O.A.T.
One day Agassi will get the respect he deserves. In the 90s he was universally heralded as one of the best movers the game had ever seen by writers and commentators at the time.Hoo boy.. no further comment.
Vincent-C
Legend
I had previously had a higher estimation of that commenter's tennis acumen. Unfortunate..He's an Agassi fanboy
Vincent-C
Legend
Kidding, right? Agassi "one of the best movers the game had ever seen"?
When did you start playing tennis? I will spell it out for you again: Agassi was
a Bad Mover, by elite standards; his superb groundies allowed him to thrive
by dictating points from the *middle of the court*, where he was comfortable.
We probably don't have much to talk about, after all. Sad.
Even if we disagree on the movement, Agassi dealt with incredible servers, attackers and power baseliners like Sampras, Becker, Goran, Safin, and even peak Federer with his “bad movement”. I have zero fear that he’d be flummoxed by Carlos. Carlos hits hard sure but he doesn’t put more pressure on you defensively than Sampras or Becker. Agassi had to have lightning fast reactions to serves and serve+1s, without poly, on way quicker courts, and he redirects pace better than anyone in tennis history.
And given how much Tommy Paul can put Carlos on the defensive, I have little doubt that the vast majority of the match would be played on Andre’s terms anyways. His defensive movement would not be needed as often as his ballstriking was so gifted.
Mazz Retic
Hall of Fame
Out of those suggested my thought was Federer with his variety. I agree Sampras would be very tough (for anyone) however Alcaraz might adapt well to that style of play as he has excellent volley's.
NeutralFan
G.O.A.T.
AA was my favourite player in the 90s and I hated it whenever he would lose to Pete in Wimbledon and USO, he was an excellent returner and that too with non poly strings. That makes it even more special but he was never the one of the best mover the world has ever seen lol .
messiahrobins
G.O.A.T.
Vincent-C
Legend
another bad mover
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
If your fed couldn't figure out 1 trick pony like Nadal then don't have high hopes.
Vincent-C
Legend
tiny was afraid of Fred- rightly so.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
You mean he was afraid of the guy who was last at the top of his game in 2019? Alcaraz was 16 years old. He was more afraid of staying tiny.
Underdog
Professional
Well, tough call for Carlos. We’ve seen him play amazing tennis already, but probably never sustained unbelievable level tennis in clutch moments in Slams. We’ve seen peak big 3 do that countless times. I’d take any of them over Carlos as of now, but give Nadal the edge because of FO absurdity.
I don’t see Carlos dealing with USO ‘10, AO ‘09, RG ‘12/‘08, W ‘08/‘07 Nadal
I don’t see Carlos dealing with USO ‘10, AO ‘09, RG ‘12/‘08, W ‘08/‘07 Nadal
Aabye5
Talk Tennis Guru
He won't need to move. He will just keep passing Carlos, all day long.
Match_Point
Rookie
I think he would have it tough everywhere imo because like it or not, the big3 in their primes excelled everywhere outside their pet surface.
Having said that, wouldve been interesting to see how he would matchup vs Fed. People forget but Fed was not just the master of attacking tennis ie taking away every second of your time.. but he was also the master of junkballs (just hitting you with so much variety and not mindless ball bashing).
Wouldve been funny to see him get a taste of his own medicine with crazy volleys, half volleys and attacking tennis Fed brings that hes currently employing to the robotic baseline ball bashing gen allergic to the net.
Having said that, wouldve been interesting to see how he would matchup vs Fed. People forget but Fed was not just the master of attacking tennis ie taking away every second of your time.. but he was also the master of junkballs (just hitting you with so much variety and not mindless ball bashing).
Wouldve been funny to see him get a taste of his own medicine with crazy volleys, half volleys and attacking tennis Fed brings that hes currently employing to the robotic baseline ball bashing gen allergic to the net.
I think Carlos ROS is being severe underrated
Spencer Gore
Legend
Lew Hoad. Would have overpowered him.
NonP
Legend
Carlitos doesn't have a glaringly exploitable weakness so it's hard to pick. That said:
Speaking of which I'll link to this recent shout-out to your boy's almost-ATG '95 season:
tt.tennis-warehouse.com
Yeah what I was thinking, too. One of Carlos' biggest weapons would literally be neutralized against Pistol. Obviously he'd still get his share of wins, but if Pete is in boss mode on grass/hard... fuhgeddaboudit.
You're actually not wrong about Youngdre's movement but you're going a bit overboard, LOL. What they actually would say was that Dre was one of the quickest guys out there. They never said he was among the flat-out fastest (at least not to my knowledge). Nobody would've mistaken him for a Chang or Sampras even before his post-'95 USO slump.
Speaking of which I'll link to this recent shout-out to your boy's almost-ATG '95 season:
James Blake: "36-year-old Djokovic is better than 26-year-old Djokovic"
All these pros who dedicated their lives to this craft tell me one thing, but TTW trolls tell me another thing. Who do I believe? When Blake, Gilbert and their ilk are on TV they aren't speaking as fellow pro players but rather as paid pundits. Their very job is to hype up the game or, to be...
tt.tennis-warehouse.com
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