Gamma 5800 ELS calibration

[Irvin]

I know, that's what I just said
That's why I like the 4pt flat pads concept parallel to the ground. I assume more stable for a downward-pulling tension head

So I've got a general question for everyone.
(I'm not going to start my own thread since I hate when people do that and could just ask a question in an existing thread).
My machine is a 5800ELS and I'm going to be updating the turntable. On the mounting arms, where the racquet touches, there's the V-shaped pads. I've seen some arms on different brand machines where instead of a V, it's more of an L-shaped pad, the L part is parallel to the ground. Do you guys think the V or L shaped pads are better?

Sounds like you're getting a 2 point mounting system, therefore there are no arms. There are also no V shaped pads.

 

[chrisingrassia]

Sounds like you're getting a 2 point mounting system, therefore there are no arms. There are also no V shaped pads.

Going from a 6pt manual adjusting arm turntable to a 6pt self-centering turntable with single adjusting arm knob.
My question was in reference to these:

 

[Irvin]

Going from a 6pt manual adjusting arm turntable to a 6pt self-centering turntable with single adjusting arm knob.
My question was in reference to these:

And your upgrading? I have no idea why the upgrade would have the older style K side supports. Are you sure that's what you're gettin? If you are I'd take the old side supports off and upgrade the upgrade.

EDIT: By the way neither of those are considered 4 pt.

 

[chrisingrassia]

And your upgrading? I have no idea why the upgrade would have the older style K side supports. Are you sure that's what you're gettin? If you are I'd take the old side supports off and upgrade the upgrade.

EDIT: By the way neither of those are considered 4 pt.

Everything is an argument/debate huh
Yes, I'm upgrading from a non-SC turntable to a SC turntable, and upgrading turntable from 4 separate arm adjustment knobs to just one on each end.
I'm aware that my machine is 6pt mounting, I was referring to just the 4 points where the V/L/K pads are. I'm aware the old style is the L/K-shaped pads, and the newer are the V. I was inquiring why they don't make the L/K anymore, because that style makes logical sense to me considering the tension head pulls downward.

 

[Irvin]

I was inquiring why they don't make the L/K anymore, because that style makes logical sense considering the tension head pulls downward.

@jim e already told you. I'll see if I can make it a bit clearer. When you start to mount the racket there is a knob on either end used to center the racket on the 6 and 12 posts. Once you have the racket mounted on the 6 and 12 posts the side supports on the 4 armed are going to intersect the frame at a fixed points. If that lower fixed point happened be right on top of a grommet blocking it it is blocked on both sides. Then you go to the top and may encounter the same situation.

Babolat (as I was told by Brett the previous Gamma Tech) had a patent on the V or C support so other manufacturers could not duplicate them. Hence they came up with an inferior K type support. They don't make them any more because most stringers don't want them because they can be a pain in the butt.

EDIT: On the V or C support there is a cavity in the center where the string going into or out of the grommet always points to. Thus gives you more room to get the string in or out of the grommet. On K type supports they is always that top pad and how close that pad is to the grommet hole depends on how thick the frame it.

EDIT: Another advantage of the C support is the stringbed is always parallel to the turntable. This means the clamps are always clamping the strings at the same distance all the time no matter how thick or thin the racket is on either end.

 

[chrisingrassia]

@jim e already told you.

Yep, I know, and all I said after that was 'I've not used a K support before but I liked the concept given that the tension head always pulls down on the string. Made sense to have a flat pad at that spot.' I was just saying that physics-wise, the K support made sense to me.

Babolat (as I was told by Brett the previous Gamma Tech) had a patent on the V or C support so other manufacturers could not duplicate them. Hence they came up with an inferior K type support. They don't make them any more because most stringers don't want them because they can be a pain in the butt.

EDIT: On the V or C support there is a cavity in the center where the string going into or out of the grommet always points to. On K type supports they is always that top pad and how close that pad is to the grommet hole depends on how thick the frame it.

I hear ya. Blocked grommet holes are a nightmare.

I'm tinkering with my 5800ELS because I recently strung on an old Star 3 and a new Star 5 and noticed that the racquet literally did not budge one bit during stringing. My Gamma machine flexes and loosens like no tomorrow when I string a frame, particularly the arm supports. I usually have to re-adjust/tighten the mounting points throughout the string job. I really don't think the Gamma machines were designed around tennis tensions, they were engineered to work for badminton but still "accommodate" /"work" for tennis jobs.