Gamma X-2 - will new clamps like the Pro Stringer clamps be a big improvement?

[snr]

I've never liked the way the clamps seem to squeeze the strings together.. and I've always felt like it would mess up the tension (not sure if thats true at all or not).

At first I was looking at the Klippermate clamps but seems the ProStringer ones are higher rated? They do look well thought out. What are your thoughts?

Also based on a quick search here, I imagine if I'm OK with the 2 mount and a drop weight, the Pro stringer isn't worth it?

Thanks!

 

[fritzhimself]

I would rather invest in a “proper” stringing machine than stringing with such outdated equipment.

 

[Irvin]

Claws are a huge upgrade. They hold better, easier to clean, and don’t need as much cleaning. The X-2 DW is fine as long as you aren’t stringing too many rackets. As far as the 2 point mount I’ve never had an issue and find the frames deform less after stringing the mains only.

 

[Sardines]

Sounds to me you are tempted by the upgrade but need convincing? Plenty has been written about the Claws 2.0. However, the Klippermate clamps get the job done, and if you don't want to spend the extra $ on ease of use, stay with the cheaper clamps. Stringing is about finding a tension on the machine you use that works for the player. Time spent on things like gauge adjustment, clamping ease, cleaning etc is what the upgrade is about. Both get the job done, but the Claws make it easier in the long run.

I've never liked the way the clamps seem to squeeze the strings together.. and I've always felt like it would mess up the tension (not sure if thats true at all or not).

At first I was looking at the Klippermate clamps but seems the ProStringer ones are higher rated? They do look well thought out. What are your thoughts?

Also based on a quick search here, I imagine if I'm OK with the 2 mount and a drop weight, the Pro stringer isn't worth it?

Thanks!

 

[EggSalad]

I’ve got a X2 and just string my racquets and my wife’s racquets (with the occasional favor for a friend in need). I also got the v1 Pro Stringer clips and I really like them.

They don’t pinch the strings like the gamma clamps do which I believe results in more consistent jobs. They are much quicker to use as well and apply a lore even clamp with a lot less effort.

If you are planning to keep the X2, they are a worthwhile upgrade. If you’re not planning to keep it, you’d probably want to look at fixed clamp set ups.

 

[snr]

I would rather invest in a “proper” stringing machine than stringing with such outdated equipment.

I am curious, what do you consider not outdated equipment? As far as I know, drop weights are still being sold. I'm just curious, no other intent with that question.

Question aside, this is also a fair statement. I'd love to, and i'm tempted to. I can afford it but sometimes i think about what else i could do with the $ and if its worth it! In Canada, the next machine with fixed clamps is $1000 (Canadian dollars); and that is STILL a drop weight (hence my question about what was not outdated ) .

The used market actually isn't all that hot here, i saw someone selling a drop weight for almost the price of retail. I'm sure i could find at some point but I feel like someone else would beat me to it considering how cool it is.

Anything electric is thousands, and even a crank is $1500+ retail.

That's why I brought up the pro stringer.

Sounds to me you are tempted by the upgrade but need convincing? Plenty has been written about the Claws 2.0. However, the Klippermate clamps get the job done, and if you don't want to spend the extra $ on ease of use, stay with the cheaper clamps. Stringing is about finding a tension on the machine you use that works for the player. Time spent on things like gauge adjustment, clamping ease, cleaning etc is what the upgrade is about. Both get the job done, but the Claws make it easier in the long run.

Haha, I am tempted to make my cheap (and as mentioned by the other poster) quite dated machine, work as best as it can. I've gotten a bit faster and I'm just trying to weigh options of improving my experience and what they'd cost like. new clams on a 2 mount? get another drop weight but 4 mount? Anything more is almost unjustifiable unless i can find a used one which is rare.

I’ve got a X2 and just string my racquets and my wife’s racquets (with the occasional favor for a friend in need). I also got the v1 Pro Stringer clips and I really like them.

They don’t pinch the strings like the gamma clamps do which I believe results in more consistent jobs. They are much quicker to use as well and apply a lore even clamp with a lot less effort.

If you are planning to keep the X2, they are a worthwhile upgrade. If you’re not planning to keep it, you’d probably want to look at fixed clamp set ups.

Great to hear. As per my other responses, despite its age, i am tempted to keep the X2. i just can't justify the cost of these crazy machines costs. I get it, and I get i can try to import or get used but support would be nil on imports and used is a bit difficult to find so far.

X2 as bad as some folks say? I totally get it is old..
I'm glad to hear that the clamps seem like a good experience for you though! Tempting.
I think consistency is key, the Gamma clamps do seem to squeeze quite a bit, its something I've never liked lol.

 

[fritzhimself]

I am curious, what do you consider not outdated equipment? As far as I know, drop weights are still being sold. I'm just curious, no other intent with that question.

Question aside, this is also a fair statement. I'd love to, and i'm tempted to. I can afford it but sometimes i think about what else i could do with the $ and if its worth it! In Canada, the next machine with fixed clamps is $1000 (Canadian dollars); and that is STILL a drop weight (hence my question about what was not outdated ) .

The used market actually isn't all that hot here, i saw someone selling a drop weight for almost the price of retail. I'm sure i could find at some point but I feel like someone else would beat me to it considering how cool it is.

I don't consider drop weight machines with fixed clamps to be outdated.
A quick counter question: Would you buy an old-timer as a daily driver if there was something better on the market?

A 2-point machine with flying clamps shouldn't really be used any more.
The newer 6-point machines with fixed clamps (you don't have to buy the cheapest) have a better/more stable turn table and also good clamps, making it easier to produce a good stringing.

If you don't care how the stringing comes out of the machine, then of course you can buy the cheapest one on the market.
But then I don't need to ask anyone, especially not in a specialised forum ..............?

 

[snr]

I don't consider drop weight machines with fixed clamps to be outdated.
A quick counter question: Would you buy an old-timer as a daily driver if there was something better on the market?

A 2-point machine with flying clamps shouldn't really be used any more.
The newer 6-point machines with fixed clamps (you don't have to buy the cheapest) have a better/more stable turn table and also good clamps, making it easier to produce a good stringing.

If you don't care how the stringing comes out of the machine, then of course you can buy the cheapest one on the market.
But then I don't need to ask anyone, especially not in a specialised forum ..............?

Awesome, appreciate your response! They align with some of my thoughts. I was just curious and am glad you expanded on your original response, it helps!

 

[snr]

@fritzhimself , sorry I had forgotten to ask. Thoughts on a modern 6 point drop that you'd recommend? Not necessarily decided but will window shop a bit.

I realize I also did not answer your counter question - my answer would be no, but another question i'd have to ask myself is if string job reliability is as important as daily driver reliability . I get your point though.

 

[fritzhimself]

I have no idea if this retailer also ships to Canada.
The important thing for me is that you can lock the turn table.
The next thing is the clamps - they should be of good quality. There are clamps from cheap manufacturers that don't deserve the name.
In any case, you can also retrofit this machine with a motor - that would be a good option if you want to string more rackets.
The bearing of the turn table on this machine is also very good - on the cheap ones the table tilts to say good day.
I have seen so many scrap machines and would therefore invest in something more modern.
I have only used high-end machines for more than 20 years and would never switch to something from the old days.

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[ichaseballs]

I have no idea if this retailer also ships to Canada.
The important thing for me is that you can lock the turn table.
The next thing is the clamps - they should be of good quality. There are clamps from cheap manufacturers that don't deserve the name.
In any case, you can also retrofit this machine with a motor - that would be a good option if you want to string more rackets.
The bearing of the turn table on this machine is also very good - on the cheap ones the table tilts to say good day.
I have seen so many scrap machines and would therefore invest in something more modern.
I have only used high-end machines for more than 20 years and would never switch to something from the old days.

stringing machine - TENNISMAN StringMaster 4000 | SM4000

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looks like a much nicer version of the tourna 175/150 dropweight
which seems to be what tourna does? take tennisman products and make a cheaper version to the US

 

[snr]

looks like a much nicer version of the tourna 175/150 dropweight
which seems to be what tourna does? take tennisman products and make a cheaper version to the US

Thoughts on if the Tourna would be any worse off than the tennisman in this case as you are right they look pretty similar!

 

[ichaseballs]

Thoughts on if the Tourna would be any worse off than the tennisman in this case as you are right they look pretty similar!

i'd go tennisman vs tourna
their clamps look a lot better, and they probably have a locking mechanism (vs having to hand tighten a screw)

 

[MaxSwing]

I dont have a huge amount of experience with other machines but the clamps on my Tennisman are amazing. Previously had a basic Pros Pros and then bought upgraded clamps from AliEx which were great but the diamond coating was maybe not the best.

 

[fritzhimself]

When I read Eagnas, Pros Pro or Siboasi, the hairs on the back of my neck stand up.

 

[Sardines]

Well the problem with coming to a forum to get opinions is how differing the opinions can be. The point of a stringing machine is to get a stringbed at the tension you want to play with. Our family has 3 competition players, and for practical purposes, we bought the Pro Stringer V2, based on feedback from the local D1 college coach and players, who I hit with on occasion, and also touring pros who use up to 15k in stringing costs a year on tour. Their cost benefit ratio on having a personal stringing machine blows away any recreational player's.
The 2 mount vs 4 or 6 mount debate, has always been about frame deformation, security and stress. As long as the design can secure the frame down so there is minimal deformation of the height of the hoop, a 2 point does the job, as modern high modulus carbon graphite is stronger than say 30 years ago, and it was fine back then too. I played most comps through high school with my own 2 pt stringer, restringing at comps only when needed. Also remember professional 4 or 6 pt string machines are also designed to string for different racquet sports, badminton and squash, where frame deformation was a bit more likely with 2 points because of the frame's more fragile design. The fear of material fatigue due to the deformation is also negated if you replace racquets every few years.
The biggest argument about fixed vs flying clamp is about drawback and how much of the string is locked on each pull. Fixed clamps are faster overall (depending on user), can mostly lock right up to the grommet of each string, and of course minimizes drawback (1-2mm vs 2-3mm on Claws). How much of that cannot be adjusted by tension change is subjective, since it really comes down to the player.
Flying clamps work as well as fixed clamps (tension adjusted), but take longer to use. All clamps have to be adjusted based on the string gauge and softness. Can't remember how the gamma clamps are adjusted now, but the Claws are simply on a dial, which is easy to adjust. The clamp action has feedback as to how hard it is clamping on the string. As mentioned, they also need a little less maintenance in terms of cleaning. I throw them disassembled into an ultrasonic cleaner every 2+ months or about 40-50 stringings, then dry lube the screws and moving parts.
Personally, if you are a recreational casual player, the X2 with good working condition mounts does the job. If you want a little more speed, the clamps are a great lower cost upgrade. Don't let peer pressure make you feel your equipment is inadequate, although I can totally understand upgrade fever! haha

I am curious, what do you consider not outdated equipment? As far as I know, drop weights are still being sold. I'm just curious, no other intent with that question.

Question aside, this is also a fair statement. I'd love to, and i'm tempted to. I can afford it but sometimes i think about what else i could do with the $ and if its worth it! In Canada, the next machine with fixed clamps is $1000 (Canadian dollars); and that is STILL a drop weight (hence my question about what was not outdated ) .

The used market actually isn't all that hot here, i saw someone selling a drop weight for almost the price of retail. I'm sure i could find at some point but I feel like someone else would beat me to it considering how cool it is.

Anything electric is thousands, and even a crank is $1500+ retail.

That's why I brought up the pro stringer.



Haha, I am tempted to make my cheap (and as mentioned by the other poster) quite dated machine, work as best as it can. I've gotten a bit faster and I'm just trying to weigh options of improving my experience and what they'd cost like. new clams on a 2 mount? get another drop weight but 4 mount? Anything more is almost unjustifiable unless i can find a used one which is rare.


Great to hear. As per my other responses, despite its age, i am tempted to keep the X2. i just can't justify the cost of these crazy machines costs. I get it, and I get i can try to import or get used but support would be nil on imports and used is a bit difficult to find so far.

X2 as bad as some folks say? I totally get it is old..
I'm glad to hear that the clamps seem like a good experience for you though! Tempting.
I think consistency is key, the Gamma clamps do seem to squeeze quite a bit, its something I've never liked lol.

 

[fritzhimself]

It's anyone's business to string as they wish - you can certainly do it with a motor box - but if that's so good, why do the ATP stringers use high-end machines?
Because it's impractical and reminiscent of MacGyver and because it's annoying to have the weight of a brick hanging in the fresh string.
The work should also be fun and efficient, but with such a piece of crap it really can't be fun.
I wouldn't even accept such a thing as a gift.
That's my 2cents!
Thanks for reading.

 

[EggSalad]

Why would anyone fly a Cessna when you could be flying a F16. /s

 

[fritzhimself]

Why would anyone fly a Cessna when you could be flying a F16. /s

You're wrong - it's more like this:

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[snr]

family has 3 competition players, and for practical purposes, we bought the Pro Stringer V2, based on feedback from the local D1 college coach and players, who I hit with on occasion, and also touring pros who use up to 15k in stringing costs a year on tour. Their cost benefit ratio on having a personal stringing machine blows away any recreational player's.
The 2 mount vs 4 or 6 mount debate, has always been about frame deformation, security and stress. As long as the design can secure the frame down so there is minimal deformation of the height of the hoop, a 2 point does the job, as modern high modulus carbon graphite is stronger than say 30 years ago, and it was fine back then too. I played most comps through high school with my own 2 pt stringer, restringing at comps only when needed. Also remember professional 4 or 6 pt string machines are also designed to string for different racquet sports, badminton and squash, where frame deformation was a bit more likely with 2 points because of the frame's more fragile design. The fear of material fatigue due to the deformation is also negated if you replace racquets every few years.
The biggest argument about fixed vs flying clamp is about drawback and how much of the string is locked on each pull. Fixed clamps are faster overall (depending on user), can mostly lock right up to the grommet of each string, and of course minimizes drawback (1-2mm vs 2-3mm on Claws). How much of that cannot be adjusted by tension change is subjective, since it really comes down to the player.
Flying clamps work as well as fixed clamps (tension adjusted), but take longer to use. All clamps have to be adjusted based on the string gauge and softness. Can't remember how the gamma clamps are adjusted now, but the Claws are simply on a dial, which is easy to adjust. The clamp action has feedback as to how hard it is clamping on the string. As mentioned, they also need a little less maintenance in terms of cleaning. I throw them disassembled into an ultrasonic cleaner every 2+ months or about 40-50 stringings, then dry lube the screws and moving parts.
Personally, if you are a recreational casual player, the X2 with good working condition mounts does the job. If you want a little more speed, the clamps are a great lower cost upgrade. Don't let peer pressure make you feel your equipment is inadequate, although I can totally understand upgrade fever! haha

Appreciate the alternative view too!

@fritzhimself , i actually agree with all the benefits and most of what you said but you lost me at bringing up ATP stringers. Efficiency and accuracy are the reasons they use expensive equipment. How important that is to a recreational player is up to the player. You bring up a lot of good points, I will just stop short of the ones where things are so absolute and without nuance. Like you said, its your 2c, which is why its nice to have many opinions / 2c to evaluate from. With that said, appreciate your help and introducing tennisman to me, definitely some good looking equipment!

 

[MaxSwing]

Coming from a hobby stringer I have to say you need to start somewhere. I was bored of waiting for the return of my racquet so thought I might give it a go - however there was no way I was going to spend 1000's on a 'proper' machine (debatable even then at what price point they become proper). So getting a cheap basic dropweight was the most efficient thing I could do and then have this forum with all the infinite wisdom it contains along with good youtube information I think I have turned into a relatively good stringer - I upgraded recently more as a present to myself after a good bonus from work but also as I wanted to see what better machines feel like.

Is a better machine... better? Well duh obviously. Could I still string on the drop weight, yes. Do I want to go back... no way! The players at my club are very happy with my work, the only issues I had were when the gripper in the old machine was pinching too hard but I solved that easily enough. Otherwise no-one has had an issue and after 150+ string jobs I feel comfortable doing them.

People have to start somewhere, as with any hobby or interest. Things can always start cheap and they will never be as good as more expensive items.

 

[Irvin]

It's anyone's business to string as they wish - you can certainly do it with a motor box - but if that's so good, why do the ATP stringers use high-end machines?
Because it's impractical and reminiscent of MacGyver and because it's annoying to have the weight of a brick hanging in the fresh string.
The work should also be fun and efficient, but with such a piece of crap it really can't be fun.
I wouldn't even accept such a thing as a gift.
That's my 2cents!
Thanks for reading.

Wilson, Head, Babolat, Tecnifibre, and among others generally have exclusive concessions to string at an ATP tour event. That means other stringing teams or players can’t string rackets on the premises. There are other players and teams who use string rackets off the premises though. One that come to mind.

If it weren’t for exclusive concessions I think you would see as many different machines as you see tennis rackets on the ATP tour. Especially If you include the qualifying rounds.

 

[fritzhimself]

@snr Maybe I'm not the right person to tell you what you want to hear.
I string around 350 frames a year - I did a lot more before Covid.
I won't be giving any real tips for beginners.
But this is also a specialist forum, so I take the liberty of writing something about the old stuff from time to time.
The first nations don't saddle dead horses either, if they would use saddles - so let's leave it as it is.

 

[fritzhimself]

Wilson, Head, Babolat, Tecnifibre, and among others generally have exclusive concessions to string at an ATP tour event. That means other stringing teams or players can’t string rackets on the premises. There are other players and teams who use string rackets off the premises though. One that come to mind.
If it weren’t for exclusive concessions I think you would see as many different machines as you see tennis rackets on the ATP tour. Especially If you include the qualifying rounds.

@ Irvin
well my friend Sadanand from Chhindwara is also still on the tour.

 

[snr]

@fritzhimself don't get me wrong, definitely some helpful things too. I genuinely appreciate the perspective too. Obviously your use case and mine are way different. As you said, leave it as it is, cheers.

 

[Tennisman.de]

@ Irvin
well my friend Sadanand from Chhindwara is also still on the tour.

Haha, most shocking stringing video i have ever seen. So bad that it's funny again. BTW i´m also your opinion if you use old and bad stringing machines, for example with only 2 racket fixation points and flying clamps.

By the way, I also agree with you. Before you string with old and bad machines, which e.g. only have 2 racket holding points and use flying clamps, you should rather leave it alone.

You damage the racket and don't get proper stringing.

Ok, in very poor third countries it may look different, they are happy if there is some rope on the racket and you can play.

But in the western countries you should string properly, especially if you don't just string your own racket, but possibly also from friends.

 

[Sardines]

Why would anyone fly a Cessna when you could be flying a F16. /s

Haha that's an easy one. The 172 Skyhawk is an "accessible" machine, presently worth around $500k. I won't even hazard a guess on how much a F16 Falcon is worth now, but at least 100x more, but also restricted in sales to nations defense and not a civilian toy. Perhaps a more apt comparison is Toyota vs Lexus? Both do the job, but the more expensive one feels nicer and a little faster?

Haha, most shocking stringing video i have ever seen. So bad that it's funny again. BTW i´m also your opinion if you use old and bad stringing machines, for example with only 2 racket fixation points and flying clamps.

By the way, I also agree with you. Before you string with old and bad machines, which e.g. only have 2 racket holding points and use flying clamps, you should rather leave it alone.

You damage the racket and don't get proper stringing.

Ok, in very poor third countries it may look different, they are happy if there is some rope on the racket and you can play.

But in the western countries you should string properly, especially if you don't just string your own racket, but possibly also from friends.

Wow, I'm hoping your somewhat demeaning tone is because English isn't your first language and you aren't being intentionally obtuse to the budgetary concerns of others, wherever they are from? To say anyone using what you consider to be dated, as a representative of the industry according to your username, is bordering on obtuse. Being born in DE or US does not mean they "must" buy 6 mount points, because of per capita income is so much higher, and just "leave it" if they can't or won't pay for it. That's preposterous and shows a lack of empathy/respect for others. If you have a good product, sell it on the merits of your product, and don't demean those who don't want to buy it. There is absolutely no proof that the Gamma X2 mount causes racquet hoops to collapse. So unless you have Xrays of the carbon showing definitively that 2 point systems causing more damage than 4 or 6 point systems for tennis racquets after stringing, it's best not to make statements like "you damage the racket and don't get proper stringing."
I'm choosing to ignore that "very poor...." line, because it's just...too much!
Crazily, somehow there's an industry that still sells these "dated" 2 mount machines, some of which come out of the same factories in China and Taiwan, as the rebranded 6 mount machines in the EU. There would be an epidemic of cracked frames if 2 point were that unsafe, and those brands would've gone bust decades ago... yet...

 

[struggle]

^^^^ buncha snob fluff above. Mostly.

Yes, the clamps will be a nice upgrade. You're machine is fine.
I also own a much nicer machine....nothing like some of these guys,
but BITD i had a Kmate with the vise grip floating clamps and i did
fine.

Don't let the snobbery get in the way of the craft.

Most of these guys couldn't even change their own oil, much less a tyre.
I'd love to see them use a hammer and chisel....

 

[fritzhimself]

Haha that's an easy one. The 172 Skyhawk is an "accessible" machine, presently worth around $500k. I won't even hazard a guess on how much a F16 Falcon is worth now, but at least 100x more, but also restricted in sales to nations defense and not a civilian toy. Perhaps a more apt comparison is Toyota vs Lexus? Both do the job, but the more expensive one feels nicer and a little faster?

Wow, I'm hoping your somewhat demeaning tone is because English isn't your first language and you aren't being intentionally obtuse to the budgetary concerns of others, wherever they are from? To say anyone using what you consider to be dated, as a representative of the industry according to your username, is bordering on obtuse. Being born in DE or US does not mean they "must" buy 6 mount points, because of per capita income is so much higher, and just "leave it" if they can't or won't pay for it. That's preposterous and shows a lack of empathy/respect for others. If you have a good product, sell it on the merits of your product, and don't demean those who don't want to buy it. There is absolutely no proof that the Gamma X2 mount causes racquet hoops to collapse. So unless you have Xrays of the carbon showing definitively that 2 point systems causing more damage than 4 or 6 point systems for tennis racquets after stringing, it's best not to make statements like "you damage the racket and don't get proper stringing."
I'm choosing to ignore that "very poor...." line, because it's just...too much!
Crazily, somehow there's an industry that still sells these "dated" 2 mount machines, some of which come out of the same factories in China and Taiwan, as the rebranded 6 mount machines in the EU. There would be an epidemic of cracked frames if 2 point were that unsafe, and those brands would've gone bust decades ago... yet...

Are you the world champion or the avenger of the 2 point faction - no offense meant - what's the point?
Nobody wrote anything nasty so that it was insulting or derogatory. You seem to be a real mimosa - is that derogatory or are you that thin-skinned?
This is a specialist forum where people exchange ideas - not just about machines, but also strings and rackets and much more.
I don't think any of you play like the ATP top 100 and everyone wants to know about the strings of the stars.
There's a lot of nonsense being talked and everyone who doesn't know anything about it believes it and writes their comments underneath.
Everyone is allowed to make comments - but if you write your opinion on an antique 2 point machine, you get your ass kicked.
You seem to be a funny fellow.

 

[Stringway Official]

Hi Fritz,

Sometimes you are very good in giving me an assist for a new message thanks for that:

I have only used high-end machines for more than 20 years and would never switch to something from the old days.

This sounds very logic but it is not:
The “speciality” of pulling tension on a string is that it is a mechanical process.

A drop weight machine can deliver a very accurate job because it is a very logic mechanical solution for a mechanical process.
With a little trick a high accuracy can be "built in" the system.

Our very expensive drop weight system (developed in 1984) stills sells so good because many stringers understand this.

To achieve the same accuracy with an electronic machine is very complicated and therefore expensive.
(We developed different electronic systems so we should know)

Our spring driven system may be the summum of “cheap accuracy”: The springs are much cheaper than the weights of the drop weight and the system beats every cheap electronic system easily.

The contra compared with the drop weight is that the calibration needs to be checked but many users forget that.

So my advise to SNR is: Do not worry about your old fashioned machine, some good clamps will certainly be an improvement.

 

[fritzhimself]

@Stringway Official
Dear Fred - you are a master at picking a single sentence out of a context and turning it into a backwards story.
Many thanks to you for that!

 

[LOBALOT]

I am not sure why anyone would invest in upgrading the X-2 vs. using that money in an improved machine.

 

[Irvin]

Would be nice to see opinions related to the original post. With a Gamma X-2 would Pro Stringer Claws be a big improvement over the composite clamps?

 

[LOBALOT]

I've never liked the way the clamps seem to squeeze the strings together.. and I've always felt like it would mess up the tension (not sure if thats true at all or not).

At first I was looking at the Klippermate clamps but seems the ProStringer ones are higher rated? They do look well thought out. What are your thoughts?

Also based on a quick search here, I imagine if I'm OK with the 2 mount and a drop weight, the Pro stringer isn't worth it?

Thanks!

Would be nice to see opinions related to the original post. With a Gamma X-2 would Pro Stringer Claws be a big improvement over the composite clamps?

 

[struggle]

Would be nice to see opinions related to the original post. With a Gamma X-2 would Pro Stringer Claws be a big improvement over the composite clamps?

This is EPIC!!!

 

[struggle]

I am not sure why anyone would invest in upgrading the X-2 vs. using that money in an improved machine.

Might be all the machine he needs, just wants better clamps.

A serious machine upgrade would cost ALOT more.

 

[Radicalized]

I've been on here since 2010 with the same machine before starting to post. Does the job successfully for me--and also why I don't talk about other machines in terms of recommendations.

Regarding the Claws, I've been going to pick some up just to have around, but haven't gotten to it yet. One benefit of the Claws using the X-2 specifically is what the manufacturer calls the biangular design that should allow easier clamping of the top string (head) on some racquets where the bulky Gamma clamps really don't fit because of the mounts. Also, the Claws accommodate string openings of different patterns with less distortion.

 

[Pctopcool]

I upgraded my X2 with two Stringway tripple flying clamps. They grip the string much better, and hold the tension better too. I did need to re-dial the tension, since the stringway clamps result in ~3 lbs higher tension than the stock gamma clamps.

With this upgrade, I don't see any reason to upgrade as a recreational player.

 

[fritzhimself]

Yes, exactly - everyone believes you.

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