Gasquet is the most overrated player of all time!
- Thread starter Cesc Fabregas
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"Naturally more talented than Federer", he'll need to have more than a backhand for that.
He's quite right, the man's a clown.
grafselesfan
Banned
Where did Gasquet end the year ranked? Another outstanding thread by Cesc it turned out.
dropshot winner
Hall of Fame
Mid 2009 Gasquet had already been playing crappy tennis for a year, and who was overrating (as in winning a slam) Gasquet anyway?
The guy has a nice looking backhand, some pretty volleys and nothing else.
If you had joined TW before August you would understand.
dropshot winner
Hall of Fame
What has Gasquet done since choking away a two set lead to Murray in Mid-2008?
He never was in any kind if good form, so predicting that he wouldn't do well was about as risky as predicting that Karlovic won't end 2010 in the top5.
jamesblakefan#1
G.O.A.T.
Even this year (when this thread was made) only the biggest Gasquet fanboys were still trumpeting him as the next big thing in tennis. No one really was still calling him "Baby Federer" and the like anymore. I don't think anyone was overrating him, particularly this season. Only to say his BH is one of the best in the game, which it is, but the rest of his game and particularly his game mentally was pretty weak. Was he overrated at a time? Yes. But at the time this thread was made, I didn't see him being so grossly overrated anymore. Particularly when this thread was made while he was still on drug suspension, which makes the thread and it's premise even more pointless.
Mostly true. I guess I was thinking years past he was always very overrated on this forum. It does seem this year people have clued in. It is strange though when matches are going on vs people like Verdasco and others who are hitting him off this court people talk about him being a mental midget or a waste of talent because he is losing to those guys, when it is really that his game isnt good enough or powerful enough for the improving field. How are you mentally folding when you are getting completely overpowered and outplayed. I could see blaming him for not working harder off the court for improving his actual game, and that given his talent he should be able to do that.
jazzyfunkybluesy
Banned
Agreed his backhand is excellent but is too much of a headcase to be a top contender.
Cesc Fabregas
Legend
Put a fork in Gasquet, he's done. I doubt he'll ever return to the top 20 again.
lambielspins
Banned
I remember years ago on this forum the Gasquet fanboys defending the Federer comparisions by saying constantly "well look what Federer had done at that age" or "just wait until Gasquet gets to that age Federer began his roll, he will be doing the same thing". Well here we are further along. Federer the year he turned 23 in August ended with 4 slam titles, and a year end #1 ranking, a year end #2 ranking, and a year end #6 ranking. Gasquet this year turned 23 in June and has ended with 0 Masters titles for his career, 1 slam semifinal, and 1 year end top 10 ranking.
dropshot winner
Hall of Fame
I disagree, if Gasquet plays a full season in the next 12 months he can easily reach the lower ends of the top20. In any case, I don't see him doing much better than that.
lambielspins
Banned
He wont have the results for that. Anyone in the top 50 is likely to beat him right now. Of course he could once in awhile beat guys in the top 50, but guys outside the top 50 can also beat him.
Since he has been back he has had fairly good results apart from the two weeks before his appeal hearing. I think he will easily get back into the top 30. He is only ranked 53 now and thats despite missing 2 slams and a ton of MS tournies. Whether he will do better than that largely depends on whether or not he is prepared to work hard and ditch his bad habits.
I don't think he is the GOAT or that he is going to be consistently top 10 but he can play well when he wants to and is a threat to anyone.
grafselesfan
Banned
Gasquet isnt even a threat to players like Verdasco right now, let alone the top 5.
Dr_Kaligari
Banned
oops, sorry, didn't happen
Dr_Kaligari
Banned
Didn't you hype him as the next No.1 recently? LOL!
this sums gasquet up for me. his serve is powerful but he doesn't have good directional control on it or a particularly good 2nd serve. his forehand is hit for position, and in today's baseline heavy game that's not enough. he can't defend.
perhaps the threat of having tennis taken away from him will have given him the kick up the backside he needed to put in the hard yards in this coming close season. there is a lot he could do to develop his game, which is encouraging since he's already a top 20 talent. but he has to want it.
Breaker
Legend
LOL at all the banned users in this thread, Cesc's threads seem to attract them :lol:
Even funnier, basically banning yourself by forgetting to switch accounts.
Even funnier, basically banning yourself by forgetting to switch accounts.
jazzyfunkybluesy
Banned
8 ball Gasquet!
Rhino
Legend
I still think he did pretty well, and it's not over for him yet.
He not only beat Federer, he beat Djokovic 6-4, 6-2 on hardcourt, and beat Murray three times on hardcourt, plus that win over Roddick at Wimbledon.
He is talented and has some decent results. At the Canada Masters in '06 he took out Santoro - Blake - Verdasco - Berdych - and Murray, back to back, before being beaten by Federer in the final.
He probably got about as hyped as Donald Young, and if you want to talk about underachieving then take a look at his results.
He not only beat Federer, he beat Djokovic 6-4, 6-2 on hardcourt, and beat Murray three times on hardcourt, plus that win over Roddick at Wimbledon.
He is talented and has some decent results. At the Canada Masters in '06 he took out Santoro - Blake - Verdasco - Berdych - and Murray, back to back, before being beaten by Federer in the final.
He probably got about as hyped as Donald Young, and if you want to talk about underachieving then take a look at his results.
He managed to beat Federer once! Even the likes of Simon have beaten Federer. As for Wimbledon, he managed to beat a washed-up Roddick at the time - lets put Roddick this year at Wimbledon against Gasquet and see who wins. Djokovic was awful at the TMC and most of his wins have come from playing opponents who were playing ok at best.
I think he's 23 now. He's made 1 Slam semifinal and a few masters finals - which is indeed very good but there are guys younger than him who have already had a better career.
Gasquetrules
Semi-Pro
Injuries will tell the tale
Things have changed since Gasquet first burst upon the pro tour. The depth of talent has grown much deeper. It is now quite an accomplishment to get inside the top 20. Guys like Robredo and Ferrer who were both as high as #5 a few years ago are struggling to remain in the top 20. And what happened to Tursunov, who looked pretty solid a couple years ago? Safin is gone. Hewitt and Ferrero are aging out. Young, big heavy hitters like Del Potro and Celic are looking like the new model for tennis. So it will indeed be a challenge for Gasquet to work his way back into the top 20. But I think he can do it if his right shoulder holds up. That's his biggest problem. He played well early in 2009, and then his shoulder began to give problems again (he'd had probelms in the second half of two-thousand and eight (sorry I have to spell it out, but this software is a pain). And that accounts for most of his poor showings before his drug ban kicked in.
Despite that, Gasquet had wins over Tsonga, Simon and Monfils early in 2009, despite being ranked below all three. He quickly established himself with the best record against his countrymen, all who were ranked inside the top ten. If Gasquet can get results like this against such varied styles, it does indeed attest to his versatility and excellence on the court. But again, he was healthy and fit in early 2009.
Gasquet only had about two months of healthy play in 2009 before his legal problems began, and those issues weren't settled until just before Christmas. So if he is at all healthy in 2010, he can only move up in the rankings. I think he's far from finished, and his best results are still ahead of him. Win or lose, Gasquet is a lot of fun to watch on the court. His style of play is unique. It's a treat to watch him play, and we should wish him well and cheer him on and hope for the best. In many ways he reminds me of Marat Safin.
Things have changed since Gasquet first burst upon the pro tour. The depth of talent has grown much deeper. It is now quite an accomplishment to get inside the top 20. Guys like Robredo and Ferrer who were both as high as #5 a few years ago are struggling to remain in the top 20. And what happened to Tursunov, who looked pretty solid a couple years ago? Safin is gone. Hewitt and Ferrero are aging out. Young, big heavy hitters like Del Potro and Celic are looking like the new model for tennis. So it will indeed be a challenge for Gasquet to work his way back into the top 20. But I think he can do it if his right shoulder holds up. That's his biggest problem. He played well early in 2009, and then his shoulder began to give problems again (he'd had probelms in the second half of two-thousand and eight (sorry I have to spell it out, but this software is a pain). And that accounts for most of his poor showings before his drug ban kicked in.
Despite that, Gasquet had wins over Tsonga, Simon and Monfils early in 2009, despite being ranked below all three. He quickly established himself with the best record against his countrymen, all who were ranked inside the top ten. If Gasquet can get results like this against such varied styles, it does indeed attest to his versatility and excellence on the court. But again, he was healthy and fit in early 2009.
Gasquet only had about two months of healthy play in 2009 before his legal problems began, and those issues weren't settled until just before Christmas. So if he is at all healthy in 2010, he can only move up in the rankings. I think he's far from finished, and his best results are still ahead of him. Win or lose, Gasquet is a lot of fun to watch on the court. His style of play is unique. It's a treat to watch him play, and we should wish him well and cheer him on and hope for the best. In many ways he reminds me of Marat Safin.
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prosealster
Professional
abmk
Bionic Poster
he beat fed in his prime year in 2005, when fed was playing very well unlike simon who beat ******** twice
washed up roddick ? :shock:
he had reached the AO semis that year in 2007, playing very well , had won queens IIRC , hadn't lost a tie-break that year or had lost only one tie-break uptill then that year ... was playing well at wimby ... give gasquet some credit ! ( though can't disagree that he was helped by roddick's stupid approaches to the net )
agreed
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
He did not even win a 500 series title. I think there would be 50 more players who won 500 series title post 2006 MC. Not Gasquet though.
RSJfan
Hall of Fame
Overrated in 2009 perhaps. Not overrated in 2025.
Reported to @Sudacafan for extreme thread bumping.
Reported to @Sudacafan for extreme thread bumping.
Rovesciarete
Hall of Fame
Gasquet plays surprisingly similar to the ideal many Italian clay-courters aspired too decades ago. Hard to find a more devastating judgement.
Trying to play some sort of grass tennis on clay without a proper serve and reliable groundstrokes.
Candide
Hall of Fame
Wow, bumped a 16-year-old thread to have a crack at a solid and entertaining pro who reached number 7 in the world and won 16 titles over the course of a fantastic career that coincided perfectly with the 3 most dominating players in history. Amazing stuff. I get the feeling that a lot of people don't really understand or enjoy tennis at all just looking at their stats or comparing random players to one of the immortals, saying, "He's not as good as X players I like - therefore mug" and thinking that ranks as an insight. How tedious.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
16 250 titles a lot of them in France and nicknamed baby fed.Wow, bumped a 16-year-old thread to have a crack at a solid and entertaining pro who reached number 7 in the world and won 16 titles over the course of a fantastic career that coincided perfectly with the 3 most dominating players in history. Amazing stuff. I get the feeling that a lot of people don't really understand or enjoy tennis at all just looking at their stats or comparing random players to one of the immortals, saying, "He's not as good as X players I like - therefore mug" and thinking that ranks as an insight. How tedious.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Copied from another thread:
I will say this about Gasquet. OK, his achievements did not match early expectations but he is still an entertaining player to watch, even now on the verge of retirement. It's not always just about the results. Some players are just fun to watch and I personally will miss him when he's gone!
I will say this about Gasquet. OK, his achievements did not match early expectations but he is still an entertaining player to watch, even now on the verge of retirement. It's not always just about the results. Some players are just fun to watch and I personally will miss him when he's gone!
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Most in France but a good spread elsewhere:
France 5
UK 2 (maiden 2 titles)
Switzerland 1
India 1
Thailand 1
Qatar 1
Russia 1
Portugal 1
Belgium 1
Netherlands 1
New Zealand 1
Covered all surfaces:
Hard 9
Clay 3
Grass 3
Carpet 1
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Crazy how he's never even won a 500, while we have guys like Norrie and Sock as masters winners.
1HBHfanatic
Legend
-which one is making it to the "tennis hall of fame" first: the "butt cap" and/or the player?! hahahahaha
Shaolin
Talk Tennis Guru
He used to be interesting back when he was younger and aggressive. Last few years he has just been going through the motions it feels like.
mental midget
Hall of Fame
at the end of the day...traveled around the world, made millions, had some moments in the sun (16 titles, got into top 10 for a bit), enough flair and distinction to his game that he'll be remembered for a while at least. wore some sweet gucci bomber jackets...definitely kind of just 'seeing what happens' lately for sure. pretty cool career in my book, i'm sure he's well-recognized in france and tennis-friendly cities around the world, if that matters.
another way to look at it, basically better than almost anyone in history to pick up a racket, many pros included. he distinguished himself.
if you can sustain it, a long career in the top 20 or so makes for a pretty easygoing 2nd chapter of life. good next egg, teach some ball in monte carlo...whatever.
Shaolin
Talk Tennis Guru
Yes he has certainly had a long and successful career. I saw him play in person in 2006 and 2013. Always had that great backhand.
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