Gasquet may have tested positive for cocaine

On another note, Jeremy Mayfield, an owner/driver in NASCAR, has failed a drug test and is suspended. Initial reports is that he may have taken too much Claritan D. Suspended until NASCAR decides he can come back.

Drug testing is here and it is not going away in the near future. If you want to play, you have to stay clean.

At my job which is a desk job, I can get tested randomly. Fail a drug test and I am automatically fired. Have an alcohol level of .02, fired. If you go out at lunch and have a beer or two, you might as well take the rest of the day off and go home rather than risk getting tested. I like the money I am paid more than taking any chances. My wife works at the same place and she has been tested 4 times in the last year and a half. I haven't been tested yet. Your name is picked at random. Your boss comes up to you and tells you to go to the nurse's office to give a sample, immediately. Statistically, you should get tested once every 2 years.

How is it tested? breath test is perfectly ok and have no probs with your
boss not wanting intoxicated workers etc..but blood testing would be
starting to get a bit much...it starts to get disturbing. they could
effectively be invading your privacy despite that your clean at work.
 
I agree with you in a certain sense. Gasquet most definitely knew (knows) that cocaine is a no-no according to ATP rules. If he wants to play, no cocaine. It can't get any simpler than that. His choice betrays immaturity and, hopefully, he will learn from this and come back to the tour.

Incidentally, nice to 'meet' another Libertarian.
He's certainly not a libertarian now. Libertarians don't believe that anyone can do whatever they want. They believe that people should be left to do as they choose as long as they don't harm anyone else.

You want to see cocaine illegal because some people may have to steal to obtain it, or others might drive a car while under its influence. Do you believe it should be against the law to stay up all night and not sleep? Because, after all, someone might do that and then drive a car while being really drowsy. And that's dangerous. And certainly no one should be able to drink alcohol. And we should do away with any expensive things, because those who can't afford them might steal to acquire them. Right? Let's just have the government decide every detail of our lives.
 
The reason that certain drugs are illegal is that they destroy lives and society can not cope with it. Society has had centuries to learn to live with alchohol (and its benefits of not having to drink tainted water). Cocaine and opiates used to be legal until everyone's grandmothers started becoming addicts. By using and buying/causing to be bought cocaine Gasqet would be contributing not only to his ill-being, but also to others in society. To those who would legalize drugs, think about this: what will society become when the full resouces of all the major drug companies are devoted to putting forth the most pleasurable and addicting drugs possible in the effort to grab as much money as possible from the almost 100% of the population who will become addicts.
Most people have no desire to become cocaine addicts, or even use cocaine. If it were legal, they still would feel the same. Society, by the way, has not learned to live with alcohol. It's a substance that has ruined many lives. But it's better that it be legal than illegal.
 
On another note, Jeremy Mayfield, an owner/driver in NASCAR, has failed a drug test and is suspended. Initial reports is that he may have taken too much Claritan D. Suspended until NASCAR decides he can come back.

Drug testing is here and it is not going away in the near future. If you want to play, you have to stay clean.

At my job which is a desk job, I can get tested randomly. Fail a drug test and I am automatically fired. Have an alcohol level of .02, fired. If you go out at lunch and have a beer or two, you might as well take the rest of the day off and go home rather than risk getting tested. I like the money I am paid more than taking any chances. My wife works at the same place and she has been tested 4 times in the last year and a half. I haven't been tested yet. Your name is picked at random. Your boss comes up to you and tells you to go to the nurse's office to give a sample, immediately. Statistically, you should get tested once every 2 years.

OMG. Are you serious? :shock: In which slave driving place you work and which company would waste money for something like this. I don't use drugs and don't drink during work hours, but this is ridiculous.
 
He's certainly not a libertarian now. Libertarians don't believe that anyone can do whatever they want. They believe that people should be left to do as they choose as long as they don't harm anyone else.

You want to see cocaine illegal because some people may have to steal to obtain it, or others might drive a car while under its influence. Do you believe it should be against the law to stay up all night and not sleep? Because, after all, someone might do that and then drive a car while being really drowsy. And that's dangerous. And certainly no one should be able to drink alcohol. And we should do away with any expensive things, because those who can't afford them might steal to acquire them. Right? Let's just have the government decide every detail of our lives.
^ I hope you're a college kid who still has the opportunity to grow up.
If you're older than that, you've my sympathy for seemingly being stuck with the thoughts you express.

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Uh, the average Joe/Jill would have their use (at least here in the States) uncovered by their company or the police. So they would either a) lose their job; b) be forced into some program - but their reputation at their company would be tarnished forever; c) if caught by the cops they would either do jail time or spend a lot of money on legal fees.

The only difference is the media attention.
^ It is interesting that you seem to be entirely unaware that the "media attention" is the vehicle by which children are influenced... and that is how the 'role model' context enters the equation.
 
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Your analogy makes no sense. If it were logical, sunbathing and marathon running would both be illegal. That's the whole point. Taking cocaine might be a bad idea, but it is none of our business or the ATP's business.

My whole point is that it is a bad idea. And if someone does something dumb, whether it is "my business" or not, I have the right to express my opinion about that person's stupidity.
 
OMG. Are you serious? :shock: In which slave driving place you work and which company would waste money for something like this. I don't use drugs and don't drink during work hours, but this is ridiculous.

i thought it was a little OTT as well,but i do think theemployer has a right
to at least make sure your not intoxicated at work...

Back to the main argument though...

my point is the debate should be focused on what power an employer has
to dictate what people do in private and:

b) is the ATP even seen as Gasquets employer.

to the point(mine)....The ATP is not his employer...who do they think they are..
dictating to a self employed person. It is upto the proper authorities
such as police etc to look after this matter and punishment etc.
 
PS - I will lose more respect for him if he throws out the 'my drink was spiked' or 'it was a poppyseed' excuse...

Exactly, I think that is so lame. A lot of people on here seem to be buying that line of thought though. I think if a person does not have any personal exposure to professional sports it is easy to have different views of this whole situation.
 
My whole point is that it is a bad idea. And if someone does something dumb, whether it is "my business" or not, I have the right to express my opinion about that person's stupidity.

Good for you...we all agree gasquet was dumb too...I'm certainly not
disagreeing with that point...or that you are entitlted to your opinion.

but BANNED is quite different to EXPRESSING OPINION.
 
i thought it was a little OTT as well,but i do think theemployer has a right
to at least make sure your not intoxicated at work...

Back to the main argument though...

my point is the debate should be focused on what power an employer has
to dictate what people do in private and:

b) is the ATP even seen as Gasquets employer.

to the point(mine)....The ATP is not his employer...who do they think they are..
dictating to a self employed person. It is upto the proper authorities
such as police etc to look after this matter and punishment etc.

I think it is the ITF in this case. I am not sure what the current doping program policy is (you can read it on their website though) but my assumption is that ITF adopted WADA rules which includes out of competition testing. How much people get away with does vary by sport, just take a look at the traps some guys are sporting in the playoffs. The thing is that a lot of this isnt necessarily logical or fair with respect to privacy but when people are in the public eye they get a lot of benefits - huge paychecks and access to a different world - but at the same time one slip and they can fall right back down. High return, but high risk. It is not only drugs but other activities as well (Michael Vick). Interestingly in my global travels I have met a lot of people who have told me that was always one of the things they admired about America - that if people did something wrong, they paid for it, while in other countries money could buy you out of trouble. I dont think America is that way anymore though considering the whole Iraq mess but that is another topic all together.
 
that if people did something wrong, they paid for it, while in other countries money could buy you out of trouble.

Is that true? I don't have more knowledge about this that what I get from the news and the movies, but I was under the impression that if you have the money to pay for the best lawyers you can very much get away with everything. You can win lawsuits in the US because the other party runs out of money to pay lawyers, for Rafa's sake! How's that justice?
 
I think it is the ITF in this case. I am not sure what the current doping program policy is (you can read it on their website though) but my assumption is that ITF adopted WADA rules which includes out of competition testing. How much people get away with does vary by sport, just take a look at the traps some guys are sporting in the playoffs. The thing is that a lot of this isnt necessarily logical or fair with respect to privacy but when people are in the public eye they get a lot of benefits - huge paychecks and access to a different world - but at the same time one slip and they can fall right back down. High return, but high risk. It is not only drugs but other activities as well (Michael Vick). Interestingly in my global travels I have met a lot of people who have told me that was always one of the things they admired about America - that if people did something wrong, they paid for it, while in other countries money could buy you out of trouble. I dont think America is that way anymore though considering the whole Iraq mess but that is another topic all together.

Thanks for the tip..i will also look into how the ITF Hold athe ATP to accountability...for examplethe ATP testing it's own players over performing
enhancing drugs is suspicious as there is a conflict of interest...it's in their
interest allthe tests are negative.

As to your other point regards to sports stars...professional sport in many
cases came first...the media came later...so partly disagree on that take
but that's another great debate. For example...when Jack Kramer or
Pancho Gonzales played their pro tours...were their private lives
scrutinized as much?

TV is a trickey one because some people owe their success to being "liked"

here an interesting stroy about Tony Veitch in NZ if your interested:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Veitch

In this example for instance the power an employer has is warranted.
 
Hey you got rid of the George Best sig.

cheers, but I'm going to find a few more quotes like Bests,

about my point...I may be *wrong* to a certain extent about saying

ATP is not gasquets employer....it's more cloudy than that.

Basically the ATP organise a tour and the players "come onboard".

I prefer to see it as a contract between two parties.

I assume all the pro players like fed/rafa sign a contract that sets out
allthat stuff...and part of the contract says things like:

I agree to not take any illegal substances at ANY TIME and agree to take tests for themas well and will accept any punishment ATP hands out.

If thats the case (i assume it is)...that's the part of the contract I have
major issues with. i would prefer something like this:

I agree to not take any performing enhance substances at ANY TIME and agree to take tests for them and will accept any punishment ATP hands out.
 
Is that true? I don't have more knowledge about this that what I get from the news and the movies, but I was under the impression that if you have the money to pay for the best lawyers you can very much get away with everything. You can win lawsuits in the US because the other party runs out of money to pay lawyers, for Rafa's sake! How's that justice?

I agree with you but in some ways it is true...at least for a few minutes. I was kind of surprised when more than one person said this to me because I'd never really thought about America in those terms. But in general there are a lot of watchdog groups and people can lose their jobs for things like harrassment and making racial slurs. People tell me in some other countries, this is unheard of (that someone would lose their job for something like that). As an example Michael Vick and the dog fighting. His career was finished when that story came out. On the other hand, and this is where the few minutes comes in to play, he'll probably write a book about the whole experience at some point and make back all of the money he lost.
 
I agree with you but in some ways it is true...at least for a few minutes. I was kind of surprised when more than one person said this to me because I'd never really thought about America in those terms. But in general there are a lot of watchdog groups and people can lose their jobs for things like harrassment and making racial slurs. People tell me in some other countries, this is unheard of (that someone would lose their job for something like that). As an example Michael Vick and the dog fighting. His career was finished when that story came out. On the other hand, and this is where the few minutes comes in to play, he'll probably write a book about the whole experience at some point and make back all of the money he lost.

I have a question..if I have a blood test in the hospital to check for
something else...and the doctor finds traces of cocaine in my system..
can the doctor ring the police and can the police charge me then and there?

Or do i have to be "caught" with the substance itself to be charged.

If it's the former answer is NO...gasquet hasn't even done anything illegal.

gasquet was not even found anything on him...at least Andrew Johns they f
ound substances on him...link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Johns
 
I have a question..if I have a blood test in the hospital to check for
something else...and the doctor finds traces of cocaine in my system..
can the doctor ring the police and can the police charge me then and there?

Or do i have to be "caught" with the substance itself to be charged.

If it's the former answer is NO...gasquet hasn't even done anything illegal.

gasquet was not even found anything on him...at least Andrew Johns they f
ound substances on him...link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Johns

a difference with the Vik case is that the police did everything,i mean
how can you play football when in jail?
 
Testing for performance enhancing drugs among professional athletes makes sense for obvious reasons.

But somehow, along with that, they threw in testing for all forms of illegal substances used by all kinds of people for what is called "recreational" purposes, along with an absolutely intrusive way of testing that goes well beyond the purpose of preventing the use of performance enhancing drugs.

The first thing that can be said is that this sets an unjustifiably double standard with the rest of society. Those who argue this is justified because tennis players are public figures and must act as role models, should answer simple questions like:

Why aren't the famous stars of the music and movie industries tested for all possible drugs also? Why do they have the right to do whatever they want during their parties, without fear of being tested? Aren't they public figures also? Don’t common people look up to them? Shouldn’t they be forced to be good “role models”? How about politicians? How about CEOs? Should we have squads of testers going randomly into Hollywood night parties, or in the homes of the rich in Pacific Heights, to see if they find any Impurities running through their blood? Why not? Shouldn't they be role models?

Why not institute mandatory random testing for the whole of society?

The fact is, if the drugs are already illegal, whoever does them should run the same risk. If they happen to get caught with them, they face whatever charges apply like everyone else.

Those who say the current practice is a good idea because it protects the health of the players against their own potentially destructive habits, should then explain: If Gasquet had simply gotten drunk out of his mind to the point where he had to be carried to his bed, wouldn’t that be more detrimental to his health than having some coke or smoking some pot at a party? Why not test him and punish him also for alcohol, in order to protect his health?

There needs to be a clear distinction between performance enhancing drugs and this kind of thing. Using performance-enhancing drugs does indeed constitute a kind of cheating, and if it were allowed, it would certainly give rise to dangerous levels of abuse just to stay in the competition, and therefore is a matter that cannot be left to the discretion of the athletes.

But this is no such case. Gasquet has no more obligation to stay away from a recreational drug during a party than the hottest movie star of the day, or a Senator, or a Bishop, or a Judge, or a TV evangelist, or you, or me. As far as I know, none of those people are subject to random testing for those things, and neither should he.

Of course, if I had to give him advise, I'd say, be wise and stay away from those things. But if he occasionally is unwise, as so meny people occasionaly are, why should he be singled out for special punishment? Just because he is a tennis player? It does not make any sense.
 
Safin comment on Gasquet's susension...

On Richard Gasquet's suspension for testing positive for cocaine, Marat Safin made the following comment:

"Everyone makes mistakes," the Russian said at the Madrid Open. "I feel sorry for Gasquet. When you're at a party, at a huge table full of people having fun, it's absurd to have to watch what glass you're drinking from.

Ummm...what? :confused:

I dunno about the rest of you, but when I am at a party, I like to keep track of what glass I am drinking from...and I actually prefer that others not drink from it.

But hey, that's just me.

The link to the article is below. Very unfortunate for such a young talent.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/tennis/05/11/gasquet.french.ap/index.html?eref=T1
 
Below are the quotes from a writer saying it will actually be good for him to be banned for 2 years. i think being banned for 2 years will destroy his career. and make him do even more coke....


http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/blog/te...t=Ag38KIVar3zyKiMDI8J5x104v7YF?urn=ten,162660

"His attitude has despaired French Davis Cup captain Guy Forget, who has learned that Gasquet can not be relied on in pressure situations. Gasquet has protested his innocence on the cocaine charge and has vowed to fight to remain on tour. However, a long ban and a chance to re-evaluate his career path might turn out to be the best thing for him."
 
I agree with Safin. Everyone makes mistakes and Gasquet should be given a 2nd chance. 2 year Ban is absurd and INSANE. It will end his career and he will do even more coke and turn into big Lebowski.
 
I think Safin's comment would have made more sense to me if he had said...

"it's absurd to have to watch THE glass you're drinking from."

instead of...

"it's absurd to have to watch WHAT glass you're drinking from."

Either way, I found Safin's comment amusing but the situation is indeed sad.
 
I always have to be careful of what is put up my nose. You never know when your at a party and snorting lines that one of them could actually be cocaine.
:)
 
Back to the main argument though...

my point is the debate should be focused on what power an employer has
to dictate what people do in private and:
But this isn't "the main argument." The topic addresses a player who got caught violating the standards set by (either, or both) the ATP and the ITF. He knew the rules. He violated them. He'll suffer the consequences.

b) is the ATP even seen as Gasquets employer.
No. The ATP is a Union. Unions frequently set the standards for another person to be part of their group. If they choose not to be part of it, they don't get the benefits.

It is upto the proper authorities
such as police etc to look after this matter and punishment etc.
Not so. He signed a contract to be a Professional Tennis Player. It's a contractual issue; not a legal one.





The first thing that can be said is that this sets an unjustifiably double standard with the rest of society.
Except that's not the position of the "authority" in this case.

Those who argue this is justified because tennis players are public figures and must act as role models, should answer simple questions like:

Why aren't the famous stars of the music and movie industries tested for all possible drugs also? Why do they have the right to do whatever they want during their parties, without fear of being tested? Aren't they public figures also? Don’t common people look up to them? Shouldn’t they be forced to be good “role models”? How about politicians? How about CEOs? Should we have squads of testers going randomly into Hollywood night parties, or in the homes of the rich in Pacific Heights, to see if they find any Impurities running through their blood? Why not? Shouldn't they be role models?

Why not institute mandatory random testing for the whole of society?
The Role Model argument is silly.
a) If Hollywood instituted testing like this, the whole place would be shut down.
b) Politicians? Washington DC and at least a third of the State Capitals in the USA would be operating on a Skeleton Crew. (And the argument that Pelosi, Kennedy, Barney Frank, Nixon, Newt or Larry Craig are "role models????" C'mon!)
c) CEO's? That would be up to the Boards of Directors.
d) The whole of society? I suspect you are using argumentum ad absurdum. Or are you promoting a Police State?

The fact is, if the drugs are already illegal, whoever does them should run the same risk. If they happen to get caught with them, they face whatever charges apply like everyone else.
It's not a "legal" issue. It's a contractual issue.

Those who say the current practice is a good idea because it protects the health of the players against their own potentially destructive habits ...
Another misdirected point of debate. It's a contractual issue.

There needs to be a clear distinction between performance enhancing drugs and this kind of thing.
It's curious to me that you have spent so many keystrokes addressing the weaker arguments ... and pretending the stronger argument doesn't exist. A few TT-ers have pointed-out cocaine *does* give the user a sense of well-being and euphoria, which certainly can produce better performance. (Oops!)

BUT ... the issue is contractual; not "whether or not cocaine meets the definition of a performance enhancing drug."

Gasquet has no more obligation to stay away from a recreational drug during a party than the hottest movie star of the day, or a Senator, or a Bishop, or a Judge, or a TV evangelist, or you, or me. As far as I know, none of those people are subject to random testing for those things, and neither should he.
How you manage to keep ducking the contractual obligation is a testament to your stubbornness. The difference you keep pretending doesn't exist is, Gasquet signed a contract promising to abide by the rules set forth by the Professional Organization. (Oops!)

Of course, if I had to give him advise, I'd say, be wise and stay away from those things.
A (brief) moment of clarity in your post.

But if he occasionally is unwise, as so meny people occasionaly are, why should he be singled out for special punishment? Just because he is a tennis player? It does not make any sense.
Contracts make no sense? Then he shouldn't have signed it. He'd probably make a great Waiter in a nice restaurant. (Nobody "owes" him a Professional Tennis career.)

- KK
 
Gasquet was not singled out. Every single tennis player is tested as part of their membership on the ATP tour. He failed the test, he will thus lose his membership for a while. I think since he wasn't playing at the time, he should get a few months ban and not two years. But he is wrong for breaking the rules of the professional organization he belongs to and for that matter breaking the law. Read the ATP rulebook, they are not concise at all and cover all this.
 
Kaptain Karl explained it, he violated the contract so the ATP can now punish him for it. A professional tennis player career is a privilege, not a right.
 
Testing for performance enhancing drugs among professional athletes makes sense for obvious reasons.

But somehow, along with that, they threw in testing for all forms of illegal substances used by all kinds of people for what is called "recreational" purposes, along with an absolutely intrusive way of testing that goes well beyond the purpose of preventing the use of performance enhancing drugs.

The first thing that can be said is that this sets an unjustifiably double standard with the rest of society. Those who argue this is justified because tennis players are public figures and must act as role models, should answer simple questions like:

Why aren't the famous stars of the music and movie industries tested for all possible drugs also? Why do they have the right to do whatever they want during their parties, without fear of being tested? Aren't they public figures also? Don’t common people look up to them? Shouldn’t they be forced to be good “role models”? How about politicians? How about CEOs? Should we have squads of testers going randomly into Hollywood night parties, or in the homes of the rich in Pacific Heights, to see if they find any Impurities running through their blood? Why not? Shouldn't they be role models?

Why not institute mandatory random testing for the whole of society?

The fact is, if the drugs are already illegal, whoever does them should run the same risk. If they happen to get caught with them, they face whatever charges apply like everyone else.

Those who say the current practice is a good idea because it protects the health of the players against their own potentially destructive habits, should then explain: If Gasquet had simply gotten drunk out of his mind to the point where he had to be carried to his bed, wouldn’t that be more detrimental to his health than having some coke or smoking some pot at a party? Why not test him and punish him also for alcohol, in order to protect his health?

There needs to be a clear distinction between performance enhancing drugs and this kind of thing. Using performance-enhancing drugs does indeed constitute a kind of cheating, and if it were allowed, it would certainly give rise to dangerous levels of abuse just to stay in the competition, and therefore is a matter that cannot be left to the discretion of the athletes.

But this is no such case. Gasquet has no more obligation to stay away from a recreational drug during a party than the hottest movie star of the day, or a Senator, or a Bishop, or a Judge, or a TV evangelist, or you, or me. As far as I know, none of those people are subject to random testing for those things, and neither should he.

Of course, if I had to give him advise, I'd say, be wise and stay away from those things. But if he occasionally is unwise, as so meny people occasionaly are, why should he be singled out for special punishment? Just because he is a tennis player? It does not make any sense.

I agree with you 100%.
 
Contract argument reminds me of the exploitative employment "contracts" of yesteryear which had to be knocked down in courts, one by one. When there were no other job options, employees signed off on whatever they were offered. Some contracts said they could be discriminated and harassed, but would not be able to have their day in court. Eventually, such clauses were declared illegal and void.

A professional tennis player really does not have any other option to play tennis other than joining the ATP. It is not like he can be an independent contracter and apply for participation. The contracts are also made with players who have barely reached the age of majority.

While in no way agreeing with Gasquet's drug abuse (if it is eventually upheld after due process), I think focusing on narrow contractual issues is not the issue here.
 
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Again, is the rule reasonable and fair? If so, why then isn't it extended to all celebrities and hot shots and pillars of society? Why can they party to their heart's content, but not Richard Gasquet?

The real reason (and it is a valid one) is to maintain the "integrity of the sport." While a Hollywood actor/singer or a high-flying politician may be doing drugs, they will only ruin their own health in the long run. Hey, the actor/singer may even get some intellectual stimulation and produce great art (Jim Morrison and the Doors) in the process.

But performance enhancing drugs have a direct effect on sports. Once the public things the players are doping, the interest in the sport can start to wane. Along with these kind of drugs, stuff like coke has also been included, that is all.
 
Yes I agree with this too. Even if B sample tested positive, he is not a cheater, since cocaine is not performance enhancing drug. Stupid yes, but cheater no, and 2 years suspension would be too harsh IMO. OTOH, Hingis got 2 years for the same offense.
Quoting Mayor Adam West:

"Silly? Yes. Idiotic? Yes."
 
I don't understand the comparison to "Hollywood stars". The ATP is an independent organization which obviously has chosen to test for "recreational" drugs. I don't necessarily agree with it (mainly, as others have stated, becasue it doesn't really provide a competitive edge), but the reason I don't agree has nothing to do with "Hollywood stars."

If the Actor's Guild wanted to institute a similar policy, that would be its perogative.

Aruging that Gasquet should not be treated harshly because Hollywood starts are not treated harshly, is basically saying that separate organizations, institutions, or workplaces shouldn't have discretion to institute their own policies and procedures.

If the argument were that under the law in the same jurisdiction tennis players and Hollywood stars were being treated differently (Gasquet was fined and locked up for two years for possession, while Lindsey Lohan got off with a slap on the wrist), then I could see the relevance of the comparison. But, we're talking about punishment within the context of independent professional organizations.
 
A professional tennis player really does not have any other option to play tennis other than joining the ATP. It is not like he can be an independent contracter and apply for participation.
Are you joking? a) of course he is an independent contractor - the players aren't hired and fired and aren't employed by the ATP - they fill out an entry form every week - depending on their ranking they may or may not get into an event; b) of course he has 'other options' - he could be a club pro. Or he could go start a rival tennis tour with no drug rules.
 
It is interesting that you seem to be entirely unaware that the "media attention" is the vehicle by which children are influenced... and that is how the 'role model' context enters the equation.
You need to work on your reading comprehension. You completely whiffed and got it completely backwards. I fully understand and appreciate the difference between being an anonymous citizen and a celebrity. I was making a point to the other poster that in some work environments the penalties would be more severe - we would just never hear about it. I've been at a few companies where strong job candidates came in - we were told they were going to get a job - only found out later that they'd failed the p** test!
 
http://www.lepoint.fr/actualites-so...asquet-a-pu-etre-dope-a-son-insu/920/0/342779

according to this the concentration of cocaine is a lot less than first thought.

That is interesting. Under US doping law, Gasquet would be considered negative, it appears. Gasquet's test results turns out ot be 10 times less than initially announced.

WADA threshold 50 nanogram, Gasquet got 151 nano, US drug test cuts at 300 nano.

Considering that, this surely is going to the direction of accidental contamination....

Here is Google translate of the last paragraph

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"Cocaine is also highly volatile"

"The quantity measured in Gasquet is particularly low, which can move in the direction of an accidental contamination," explains Dr. point.fr Pascal Kintz, who heads the laboratory ChemTox in Alsace and chairs the Society of Hair Testing, bringing together the best specialists in hair testing.

So Gasquet infected without his knowledge? According to Dr. Kintz, there are several modes of transmission of accidental cocaine. "If you put a tiny dose of cocaine in a glass, the person will be positive for 24 or 48 hours (with a urine test, Ed). This may include coca tea (mate de coca), a tea widely used in Bolivia that can be found online or in specialty stores and contain 5 milligrams of cocaine. "

There is another way of accidental contamination, is the expert. "Cocaine is also highly volatile. One can find traces on banknotes, tables ... And that's enough for someone to be contaminated. It is possible hypotheses."
 
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And its comments like that which lead Safin into getting into fights at bars in Moscow prior to the Australian Open because he is drunk out of his mind.
 
WADA threshold 50 nanogram, Gasquet got 151 nano, US drug test cuts at 300 nano.

And Hingis only had 42 nanograms. Its very unlikely that Gasquet is going to get out of a 2 year ban, whatever his 'defense' is.

And he's not a big enough name for the ATP to revise their policies(only 2 names are big enough for that...)
 
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^^this is very good news. where did the original quantity came anyway? was it just fabricated by the media? I hope Gasquet clears his name and comes back with a vengeance. we need that pretty backhand of yours, gasquet.

....Interesting about contamination through bank notes and tables - I know Gasquet frequently bites his nails and maybe he accidentally touches on something (with coke) before biting his nails :)
 
I agree with Safin. Everyone makes mistakes and Gasquet should be given a 2nd chance. 2 year Ban is absurd and INSANE. It will end his career and he will do even more coke and turn into big Lebowski.

He's not the first tennis player to face a 2-year ban and he won't be the last.

Rules are rules.
 
And Hingis only had 42 nanograms. Its very unlikely that Gasquet is going to get out of a 2 year ban, whatever his 'defense' is.

And he's not a big enough name for the ATP to revise their policies(only 2 names are big enough for that...)

Then who was last player to be banned by WADA cocaine positive of 50 nanogram per milliliter ?

Was Hingis going to be banned 2 years with 42 nanogram ?
 
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