Gasquet vs. Blake, 4th Round
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lambielspins
Banned
I generally think Blake is overrated but I admit he is playing quite well this year. I do think he has a good chance to take this one. It is hard to tell with these two. They are completely different players but both streaky as heck and mentally not stable competitors either.
MEAC_ALLAMERICAN
Legend
He has explained this over and over again. If you missed it, then that's your problem. :evil:
If it is mindless, why do you bother to post?
This isn't the first time you have taken time out your busy schedule to point this out.
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MEAC_ALLAMERICAN
Legend
I pick Blake in 3 sets by the way.
ezdude1970
Semi-Pro
don't assume there is no difference in winning 1st set or blake winning 2-1, if you dont understand it. in gambling world which you should not be a part of due to your lack of basic understanding of anything, it could be a difference of $50 on the $100 bet, so keep your silly comments to yourself, or do a basic homework before you put somebody down.
tchocky knows what he is doing!
and i feel that out of 3000 posts that you manage on this board 2999 are idiotic like this one!!!
get out of your chair once or twice and get a life!
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M
Morrissey
Guest
Ouch! But for once I have to side with edmonds (cringing) on this one. This is not a betting site. It's a forum, you just need a poll to ask who's gonna win to be honest. If you wanna add 2 or 3 sets for either, I guess you can add that. But if you're gonna go with "over/unders" or who wins so and so amount of games or who wins the first set or etc. go to a gambling or fantasy tennis site. Some of us don't gamble and we just discuss tennis, who wins or loses. Which is better, 1 handed or 2 handed? Morrissey is a genius. You know, basic stuff that people talk about in here everyday.
gj011
Banned
This is not a betting forum. This is a tennis forum, hence polls like this make no sense. There are three polls merged into one here, with completely oposite options allowed. It is messy, it is stupid and simply makes no sense whatsoever.
And I will not stop pointing this out, since it ruins the perfectly fine and intelligent poll somebody else would post on the same subject.
Edit: Didn't see Morrissey's comment which makes the same argument as mine.
And I will not stop pointing this out, since it ruins the perfectly fine and intelligent poll somebody else would post on the same subject.
Edit: Didn't see Morrissey's comment which makes the same argument as mine.
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ezdude1970
Semi-Pro
Ouch! But for once I have to side with edmonds (cringing) on this one. This is not a betting site. It's a forum, you just need a poll to ask who's gonna win to be honest. If you wanna add 2 or 3 sets for either, I guess you can add that. But if you're gonna go with "over/unders" or who wins so and so amount of games or who wins the first set or etc. go to a gambling or fantasy tennis site. Some of us don't gamble and we just discuss tennis, who wins or loses. Which is better, 1 handed or 2 handed? Morrissey is a genius. You know, basic stuff that people talk about in here everyday.
and i dont have a problem with that, i have a problem with putting somebody down not understanding that someone might look at that differently. I dont see why we cant combine a little bit of both on this website to make it more interesting.
ezdude1970
Semi-Pro
and what you could have done is not participate in this particular poll, there got to be at least 1000 other posts that you would be interested in? or better yet create your own poll that would interest everybody, it is very easy to put somebody down.
thocky spent his time and effort to create a poll if U dont like it! dont freaking do it! it is that simple!
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ezdude1970
Semi-Pro
With all this fighting forgot to make my picks
gasqet in 2 sets
gasget to win 1 set
gasqet in 2 sets
gasget to win 1 set
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
haha, you even forgot to spell his name correctly both times.
As usual gj011 selects all options
Gasket in 3.
aceroberts13
Professional
I voted for Blake becuase he is favorite
; I hope I didn't jinx him.
; I hope I didn't jinx him.
yeah, i noticed it too. than i have seen gasquet plays like #1 for a few matches and then suddenly gets cold with no fighting spirit.
let's see how a pop singer Noah has been helping him psychologically...
GasquetGOAT
Hall of Fame
Gasquet is on a roll this week. It'd take a lot more than a Blake to stop him in this form.
Gasquetrules
Semi-Pro
A Blake win would be a real upset
Gasquet beat Blake 6-4, 6-3 two years ago on a fairly slow hardcourt at the Canadian Open and went on to the finals where he took the first set off Federer 6-3, thoroughly outrallying Fed from the baseline. Fed was able to pull the match out by abandoning the baseline and cominig to net at every opportunity. I think Indian Wells may be a similar court this year. If Tsonga takes down Nadal, Gasquet could go to the finals... but I don't see Gasquet beating Nadal if he is 100 percent healthy and moving well.
In their second meeting Gasquet beat Blake 6-4, 6-4 at least year's Paris Indoor Masters event. Gasquet knocked Blake out of contention for going to Shanghai with the win and earned his place by beating Andy Murray next round in three sets.
Gasquet just moves so much better than Blake, and I also think he plays the net better. He's had some very good success this year in doubles to prove this.
With this record in mind, and considering that Gasquet is seeded higher than Blake, I was amazed when I went to the ATPtennis website this evening and there was a picture of Blake with the caption, "On a collision course to meet Nadal," or something to that effect.
I agree with a previous post. Robin Soderling was the big problem looming early in this tournament for Gasquet... not James Blake. After getting past Soderling so decisively, I have to think this court suits Gasquet's game very well. Gasquet has a perfect record against Blake and Ljubicic, two similar players, and for similar reasons. Better movement and a more complete game... and a better one-handed backhand.
Blake could pull off the upset here, but only if Gasquet serves poorly and just has a bad day. I sure wouldn't bet against Richard in this match.
Gasquet beat Blake 6-4, 6-3 two years ago on a fairly slow hardcourt at the Canadian Open and went on to the finals where he took the first set off Federer 6-3, thoroughly outrallying Fed from the baseline. Fed was able to pull the match out by abandoning the baseline and cominig to net at every opportunity. I think Indian Wells may be a similar court this year. If Tsonga takes down Nadal, Gasquet could go to the finals... but I don't see Gasquet beating Nadal if he is 100 percent healthy and moving well.
In their second meeting Gasquet beat Blake 6-4, 6-4 at least year's Paris Indoor Masters event. Gasquet knocked Blake out of contention for going to Shanghai with the win and earned his place by beating Andy Murray next round in three sets.
Gasquet just moves so much better than Blake, and I also think he plays the net better. He's had some very good success this year in doubles to prove this.
With this record in mind, and considering that Gasquet is seeded higher than Blake, I was amazed when I went to the ATPtennis website this evening and there was a picture of Blake with the caption, "On a collision course to meet Nadal," or something to that effect.
I agree with a previous post. Robin Soderling was the big problem looming early in this tournament for Gasquet... not James Blake. After getting past Soderling so decisively, I have to think this court suits Gasquet's game very well. Gasquet has a perfect record against Blake and Ljubicic, two similar players, and for similar reasons. Better movement and a more complete game... and a better one-handed backhand.
Blake could pull off the upset here, but only if Gasquet serves poorly and just has a bad day. I sure wouldn't bet against Richard in this match.
anointedone
Banned
The only thing Gasquet does better then Blake is hit a backhand. If Blake can play his game and keep his head on straight he should win, their head to head be damned. Gasquet is quite overrated, his whole game is basically a great backhand. Mediocre serve, average forehand, good volleys but not a big part of his game, good but not great movement and defence, mediocre return of serve. Blake hits a way bigger forehand, bigger serve, is much quickier, and returns alot better. I dont see why he cant overpower Gasquet on a good day.
I think you just described top 200 player.... oh wait, Richard is in top 10! why is that if he is so bad as you claim?
Forehand: Blake (although it can also be liability if he starts pressing like he does against Richard)
Backhand: Gasquet (more consistent, bigger weapon)
Serve: Gasquet (more consistent, higher % usually, better placement)
Movement: Blake (he is explosive)
Volley: Gasquet (nice touch and anticipation and he is not afraid of it, finishes most of the points up there)
Return of serve: Even (James is far more aggressive on it, but will give free points, where RIchard is solid and will make James play most of the time on second serves)
Defense: About even
Touch, variety, change of tactics : Gasquet
just imo
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Ripster
Hall of Fame
Yep I saw that on the atp site as well "on collision course to meet Nadal" as if Blake's victory over Gasquet is certain....I hardly think so. This sentence also assumes Nadal is going to roll over Tsonga, and I think that match is a toss-up.
superman1
Legend
Wrong. Fanboy, etc.
Blake's returns pretty much suck. He has the ability, his go for broke mentality, especially on his backhand prevents him from being a good returner.
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
That's why you should stop criticizing Chocky's polls
el sergento
Hall of Fame
Whaaaa??? Blake's return is amongst the best in the game, along with Ferrer. IMO he returns better than he serves.
Blakes's defeat of Moya is far more impressive than beating Chela. Blake in 2. Dickie Gascquet will self destruct.
ezdude1970
Semi-Pro
i am amazed that with Gasquet game, he is not a #2 in the world, he should really smoke Blake out all the way to the Nevada border in this match, but with Gasquet you never know which guy will show up. Suggestion never bet a house on Gasquet!
took him for 2 units!
took him for 2 units!
el sergento
Hall of Fame
Without a forehand Gasquet will never reach above #5 and will certainly never be #2. He stands way too far back of the court to be able to hit through the big guys and his serve is much too shaky. The biggest problem though is his forehand, man that thing is ugly. I'm actually amazed a top 10 player can have such a mediocre shot.
Pretty BH though.
ezdude1970
Semi-Pro
very good observation, should be interesting to see if there is a room to improve, i say he will be top 3 by the end of the year. every player has some flaws here and there, i look at him on the good day, and for me the dude is just head and sholders above the rest of the group, excluding Federer obviously!
el sergento
Hall of Fame
Well, he's only 21 and extremely gifted so there is room for improvement. The problem though is that his forehand is fundamentally a poor shot and would require major changes as opposed to just some minor adjustments.
As for the year end #3, he's gonna have to make at least a final at a major to get there (best chance is Wimbledon) and would have to count on either of the current top 3 to have a bad year at the majors.
I think there's a better chance of Murray finishing top 3 then Gasquet honestly.
James is going to have to hit high backhands all day long if he is going to win. Couple times they played before, Richard outplayed him in all departments. He can avoid forehand exchanges by going up the line a lot and James will have to endure bh cross court shots and in that department, Richard has edge.
If I had to guess, I think James starts to press and will be overplaying some of his big shots and will make some errors.
lambielspins
Banned
I nearly fell out of my chair laughing at that one.
GRANITECHIEF
Hall of Fame
Not sure i totally agree with you on that one. I was at the Blake Moya match and on match point, Blake hit a perfectly struck clean backhand winner off a first serve. He actuallly hit quite a few nice returns with the backhand. Of course, he's no Agassi on the return (or Fish, after i saw him blast BH return winners on Davydenko), but he definitely doesn't suck with that shot.
leonidas1982
Hall of Fame
Yes, adapting a more all-around game. Good to see.
leonidas1982
Hall of Fame
agreed .
leonidas1982
Hall of Fame
Taking care of serves, Blake.
Tempest344
Professional
man gasquet needs to return better
weird backhand error there..very rare
weird backhand error there..very rare
