Geez Maria

saguar0

Rookie
The U.S. does not allow dual citizenship. To become an American citizen, you have to renounce all other nations' citizenships.

Are you sure Sharapova is an American citizen?
I believe she is not. Plus, I may not know Fed Cup rules to a detail, but I don't think she would be able to play for Russia if she'd have dual citizenship.
I was reading about Davydenko applying for a citizenship in Austria (in addition to his russian one) and they said he won't be able to play for Russia in Davis Cup after that.

Maria acts and speaks like an average american teenager. A lack of proper education shows too, - did she even had time to finish high school properly?
Her russian is all right for somebody who grew up outside of Russia and not reading russian literature or watching russian TV etc.

AS far as USA not allowing dual citizenships, it is true, but i think it is just formality. There is no procedure where you suppose to bring in all your foreign passports and hand them over to INS officer :)
A lot of new american citizens still keep their foreign passports - it makes it easier to travel etc. Plus, believe you or not, it costs money to officially give up russian citizenship through the consulate :-D
 

FiveO

Hall of Fame
she doesn't belong anywhere. a lot of americans don't like her and most russians hate her. she should play for japan. they love her there. but then again, they love paris hilton.
Yeah (she's not my cup of tea either) but...

Madison Avenue and these companies apparently "like her" well enough:

Honda - Following her Wimbledon victory in 2004, Sharapova signed a one-year deal with the automobile manufacturer, but the deal was only valid in Japan.

...but not just Japan:

Land Rover - In April 2006, Sharapova signed a three-year deal to endorse their vehicles. One source with knowledge of the deal said it was worth approximately U.S. $2 million per year. Sharapova gets a free Land Rover Range Rover Sport in Florida and a chauffeured Land Rover Discovery wherever she wants.

Motorola - a fee, plus a mobile phone and all her mobile phone bills paid, plus a share of the income of downloads from HelloMoto/Maria.

Gatorade - energy drink

Tropicana - orange juice

TAG Heuer - In December 2004, she signed a deal with Swiss sports watch TAG Heuer to become their latest "sport and glamour" ambassador.

Nike Inc. -

Prince Sports, Inc. - Sharapova has committed to a "lifetime" of sponsoring the only tennis racket brand she's used as a pro. The endorsement deal will last until the end of her playing career and beyond.

Canon Inc. - Sharapova promotes both their office and camera products.

Sharapova's endorsements have earned her considerably more than she has won in tournament play. In June 2005, Forbes magazine listed her as the highest-paid female athlete in the world, with annual earnings of U.S. $18 million. (CBS, the American television network, reported in August 2006 that the figure is over U.S. $20 million.)

She is laughing (in English or Russian, her choice) all the way to the bank.
 
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babySuri

Banned
Yeah (she's not my cup of tea either) but...

Madison Avenue and these companies apparently "like her" well enough:

Honda - Following her Wimbledon victory in 2004, Sharapova signed a one-year deal with the automobile manufacturer, but the deal was only valid in Japan.

...but not just Japan:

Land Rover - In April 2006, Sharapova signed a three-year deal to endorse their vehicles. One source with knowledge of the deal said it was worth approximately U.S. $2 million per year. Sharapova gets a free Land Rover Range Rover Sport in Florida and a chauffeured Land Rover Discovery wherever she wants.

Motorola - a fee, plus a mobile phone and all her mobile phone bills paid, plus a share of the income of downloads from HelloMoto/Maria.

Gatorade - energy drink

Tropicana - orange juice

TAG Heuer - In December 2004, she signed a deal with Swiss sports watch TAG Heuer to become their latest "sport and glamour" ambassador.

Nike Inc. -

Prince Sports, Inc. - Sharapova has committed to a "lifetime" of sponsoring the only tennis racket brand she's used as a pro. The endorsement deal will last until the end of her playing career and beyond.

Canon Inc. - Sharapova promotes both their office and camera products.

Sharapova's endorsements have earned her considerably more than she has won in tournament play. In June 2005, Forbes magazine listed her as the highest-paid female athlete in the world, with annual earnings of U.S. $18 million. (CBS, the American television network, reported in August 2006 that the figure is over U.S. $20 million.)

She is laughing (in English or Russian, her choice) all the way to the bank.
i don't give a crap about all the money she's making. i still don't like the girl. she is annoying. i can't wait to see her lose 'on american soil' at the USO. her PR person must've taken the day off when she said that quote.

she should add proactiv to her endorsement list.
 

superstition

Hall of Fame
I don't think that's particularly true.

Say you speak both English and French. I don't think that makes it any easier to learn Japanese or Chinese than if you only spoke English.
It doesn't make it easier to learn the pattern recognition needed to read the Kanji, but it does make it easier to pick up another language's grammar and vocab. Prior to puberty, the brain is more "plastic" and neuron density depends on how the brain is being used. This is why people who play instruments and start before puberty have greater dexerity. Brain scans have shown a higher density of neurons in those people when compared to people who started playing the same instrument after puberty. The brain arranges itself according to use, prior to puberty.
 

tennishead93

Semi-Pro
Yeah (she's not my cup of tea either) but...

Madison Avenue and these companies apparently "like her" well enough:

Honda - Following her Wimbledon victory in 2004, Sharapova signed a one-year deal with the automobile manufacturer, but the deal was only valid in Japan.

...but not just Japan:

Land Rover - In April 2006, Sharapova signed a three-year deal to endorse their vehicles. One source with knowledge of the deal said it was worth approximately U.S. $2 million per year. Sharapova gets a free Land Rover Range Rover Sport in Florida and a chauffeured Land Rover Discovery wherever she wants.

Motorola - a fee, plus a mobile phone and all her mobile phone bills paid, plus a share of the income of downloads from HelloMoto/Maria.

Gatorade - energy drink

Tropicana - orange juice

TAG Heuer - In December 2004, she signed a deal with Swiss sports watch TAG Heuer to become their latest "sport and glamour" ambassador.

Nike Inc. -

Prince Sports, Inc. - Sharapova has committed to a "lifetime" of sponsoring the only tennis racket brand she's used as a pro. The endorsement deal will last until the end of her playing career and beyond.

Canon Inc. - Sharapova promotes both their office and camera products.

Sharapova's endorsements have earned her considerably more than she has won in tournament play. In June 2005, Forbes magazine listed her as the highest-paid female athlete in the world, with annual earnings of U.S. $18 million. (CBS, the American television network, reported in August 2006 that the figure is over U.S. $20 million.)

She is laughing (in English or Russian, her choice) all the way to the bank.
she is seriosly a peice of junk. she gets all these AMERICAN sponsorships and she still acts like that. shes a little girl. if she still acts the way she acts when shes 26 it will be like paris hilton: second coming
 

FiveO

Hall of Fame
i don't give a crap about all the money she's making. i still don't like the girl. she is annoying. i can't wait to see her lose 'on american soil' at the USO. her PR person must've taken the day off when she said that quote.

she should add proactiv to her endorsement list.
she is seriosly a peice of junk. she gets all these AMERICAN sponsorships and she still acts like that. shes a little girl. if she still acts the way she acts when shes 26 it will be like paris hilton: second coming
Like I said, I don't care for her, on several levels. However she has barely emerged from childhood and an extremely sheltered one at that. She won enough to put herself on the map and was "attractive enough" (I don't care for her looks either) that alot of corporate money was thrown in her direction. From the sheltering which appears to continue into adulthood, and the incredibly large dollars now at her disposal, do you think her view of the game, or the world and her place in it just may be distorted and more carefree than most young people with less money and celebrity? But in this case, what did she actually say?

The name calling being aimed at her is even more immature than I view her being. At least she has the excuse of being young.

As far as the perceived "flashpoint" of ire her comments have apparently raised:

1) she is Russian. Why, because that is, for whatever her personal reasons are, what she chooses to REMAIN. She didn't "defect" from the US to Russia, she was born Russian. Our country guarantees her right to make that choice.

Should Safin renounce his Russian citizenship and become a Spaniard, because he owes his successes to that country?

Our country allows foreign nationals to work, play, be educated and earn wages here. As others have already pointed out, our country does not allow dual citizenship. It also wraps everyone on its shores the freedom of personal choice. Got a gripe? Write your congressman.

2) While tennis is an "individual" sport, competitions like the Davis and Fed Cups are nation v. nation. Flag v. flag. Part of the original intent of these competitons, like the Olympics and other competitions was to bring nations together through competition, to show that different nations could do battle without going to war, where lives are lost. Believe it not, while no longer very true here, many nations look at these team competitions where the competitors represent their countries and countrymen and women as big important deals. Conquering nations become national heroes in the homeland on a scale non-Americans have trouble comprehending. Defeating a foe, especially what many view as an incredibly large and successful foe, at least historically, is viewed as a tremendous achievement in most other countries view. Remember our "Miracle" win of the USSR hockey team? Their's over us in basketball? Remember the hype going into each subsequent Olympics in those events? Doing it under circumstances amounting to "against the odds" i.e. on the opponent's home court, makes such an accomplishment an even more tremendous source of pride in any country.

3) The quote in and of itself is not a slight of anyone or any country. Believe it or not, many foreign nationals have as much pride in their birthplace as we do. So as proud as you or I may be for our country's successes in international sports I would submit that many other countries have a higher percentage of national interest and appreciation for those accomplishments. Americans, by and large, are at best indifferent if even aware of these competitons. They're a blip, if that, to mainstream America.

In this instance Sharapova didn't say anything inappropriate, ill-mannered or provocative. She spoke of her hopes for her national team, the one she plays for and represents. The only person who may have a legitimate gripe would be her Fed Cup coach, who may object to Sharapova providing the Americans some additional "bulletin board motivation".
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
It doesn't make it easier to learn the pattern recognition needed to read the Kanji, but it does make it easier to pick up another language's grammar and vocab. Prior to puberty, the brain is more "plastic" and neuron density depends on how the brain is being used. This is why people who play instruments and start before puberty have greater dexerity. Brain scans have shown a higher density of neurons in those people when compared to people who started playing the same instrument after puberty. The brain arranges itself according to use, prior to puberty.
Yes, I agree that it's easier to learn a language when you're young, but how about learning a third language when you're in your 20's. I don't think it really matters if you already speak only one or speak two languages, unless you're learning a language that's similar to one of the languages you already speak (e.g., Spanish-Italian, Japanese-Korean, etc.). I think learning one of the Asian languages later in life would be difficult whether or not you speak one or two European languages.
 

alwaysatnet

Semi-Pro
Like I said, I don't care for her, on several levels. However she has barely emerged from childhood and an extremely sheltered raised:
3) The quote in and of itself is not a slight of anyone or any country. Believe it or not, many foreign nationals have as much pride in their birthplace as we do. So as proud as you or I may be for our country's successes in international sports I would submit that many other countries have a higher percentage of national interest and appreciation for those accomplishments. Americans, by and large, are at best indifferent if even aware of these competitons. They're a blip, if that, to mainstream America.

In this instance Sharapova didn't say anything inappropriate, ill-mannered or provocative. She spoke of her hopes for her national team, the one she plays for and represents. The only person who may have a legitimate gripe would be her Fed Cup coach, who may object to Sharapova providing the Americans some additional "bulletin board motivation".
Be careful you don't twist your back trying to contort yourself into knots covering for Sharapova(why? I don't know). Better lie down. And while you are there, try to re read that quote. She said:
"Nothing would have pleased me more than to have beat the Americans on American soil." It seems pretty clear to me what she is saying.
She didn't say,for example, "I would have loved to have represented Russia in this competition." Or she might have said, "I am very disappointed I won't get a chance to do well for my country,though I love my adopted country too."

No,what she said was that her greatest joy would come in beating America.
Why? Because of the way America has treated her? Because she dislikes the U.S. so much? Because of the way it's held her back?
Someone should ask Sharapova to carify her remarks. Otherwise it will stand that she has declared her loathing for the nation that gave her so much opportunity. What else could give her this much self admitted joy?
Would she enjoy beating France or Sweden or Japan that much? Someone should find out.

And as far as her rights to dislike America(apparently)? It's a strawman arguement to pretend people are questioning her right to be an ingrate.
If she wants to bite the hand that has fed her, then that's her right.
Just like it's the right of Americans to be offended by her incredible lack of graciousness and tact.
 
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FiveO

Hall of Fame
Be careful you don't twist your back trying to contort yourself into knots covering for Sharapova(why? I don't know). Better lie down. And while you are there, try to re read that quote. She said:
"Nothing would have pleased me more than to have beat the Americans on American soil." It seems pretty clear to me what she is saying.
She didn't say,for example, "I would have loved to have represented Russia in this competition." Or she might have said, "I am very disappointed I won't get a chance to do well for my country,though I love my adopted country too."

No,what she said was that her greatest joy would come in beating America.
Why? Because of the way America has treated her? Because she dislikes the U.S. so much? Because of the way it's held her back?
Someone should ask Sharapova to carify her remarks. Otherwise it will stand that she has declared her loathing for the nation that gave her so much opportunity. What else could give her this much self admitted joy?
Would she enjoy beating France or Sweden or Japan that much? Someone should find out.

And as far as her rights to dislike America(apparently)? It's a strawman arguement to pretend people are questioning her right to be an ingrate.
If she wants to bite the hand that has fed her, then that's her right.
Just like it's the right of Americans to be offended by her incredible lack of graciousness and tact.
You appear to be the one attempting the gymnastics here and its obvious that you should have warmed up before starting your routine as your dismount, in particular, ended in a face-plant, and a mandatory .9 deduction.

Where did Sharapova or more importantly I (as you seem to intimate in paraphrasing my post) indicate her "dislike" or "right to dislike" America?
Loathing? Your kidding? Right? There's interpretation of the written word and then there's apparently what you are doing. Geez. Are you alright? You had to have pulled something on that one.

She stated her goal, which was to beat the American team at the venue where it was being played, in America. Read and project into that what you will. Oh, that's right, you did and alot.

Any different than any athlete saying that to win in the other guys arena makes that win sweeter?

She's Russian, she was to play for the Russian Fed Cup Team against our US Fed Cup Team, in the USA, something her countryman were probably paying attention to and caring about, just like the 6 or 7 American Fed Cup fans here in the US and she was disappointing them by pulling out. She tried to put a band-aid on that for Russia, her team, her country.

From your performance in this post I take it that if our best player was withdrawing from a Fed Cup Match vs. Russia in Russia and made the same quote you wouldn't be upset because she wouldn't be biting "the hand that fed her". And you would hold her to the same standard of decorum and tact, right?

Or would you have expected Serena while waving matching miniature American and Russian flags, to say: "Regretably, I'm withdrawing due to <insert injury du jour> but I would have loved to represent the US of A to the best of my ability. I don't know who would have won this competition, even if I was able to contribute in my own small way as the Russians are a worthy and formidable team, but I leave having found Russia to be the best country on earth and the Russian people the fans on the planet." Yeah, okay.

It's hard to discern from your ramblings which pisses you off more:

1) the quote, or;
2) the fact that a citizen of a former communist block nation chose remain a citizen of that communist block nation, and/or;
3) she chose to play for the nation of her birth instead of defecting and playing for us.

Methinks you've been watching too many "UnderArmor" commercials. The "We must defend this house!" catch phrase must have hit a real chord with you huh? You need to get over it and resist allowing your emotions to effect your reading comprehension. Loathing? Again just a classic.

See the trainer, take a cold whirlpool, get a rub, hit the showers and again, remember to warm up and break a sweat before attempting these kinds of stretches let alone the gymnastics you attempted here.
 
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sondraj

Semi-Pro
You appear to be the one attempting the gymnastics here and its obvious that you should have warmed up before starting your routine as your dismount, in particular, ended in a face-plant, and a mandatory .9 deduction.

Where did Sharapova or more importantly I (as you seem to intimate in paraphrasing my post) indicate her "dislike" or "right to dislike" America?
Loathing? Your kidding? Right? There's interpretation of the written word and then there's apparently what you are doing. Geez. Are you alright? You had to have pulled something on that one.

She stated her goal, which was to beat the American team at the venue where it was being played, in America. Read and project into that what you will. Oh, that's right, you did and alot.

Any different than any athlete saying that to win in the other guys arena makes that win sweeter?

She's Russian, she was to play for the Russian Fed Cup Team against our US Fed Cup Team, in the USA, something her countryman were probably paying attention to and caring about, just like the 6 or 7 American Fed Cup fans here in the US and she was disappointing them by pulling out. She tried to put a band-aid on that for Russia, her team, her country.

From your performance in this post I take it that if our best player was withdrawing from a Fed Cup Match vs. Russia in Russia and made the same quote you wouldn't be upset because she wouldn't be biting "the hand that fed her". And you would hold her to the same standard of decorum and tact, right?

Or would you have expected Serena while waving matching miniature American and Russian flags, to say: "Regretably, I'm withdrawing due to <insert injury du jour> but I would have loved to represent the US of A to the best of my ability. I don't know who would have won this competition, even if I was able to contribute in my own small way as the Russians are a worthy and formidable team, but I leave having found Russia to be the best country on earth and the Russian people the fans on the planet." Yeah, okay.

It's hard to discern from your ramblings which pisses you off more:

1) the quote, or;
2) the fact that a citizen of a former communist block nation chose remain a citizen of that communist block nation, and/or;
3) she chose to play for the nation of her birth instead of defecting and playing for us.

Methinks you've been watching too many "UnderArmor" commercials. The "We must defend this house!" catch phrase must have hit a real chord with you huh? You need to get over it and resist allowing your emotions to effect your reading comprehension. Loathing? Again just a classic.

See the trainer, take a cold whirlpool, get a rub, hit the showers and again, remember to warm up and break a sweat before attempting these kinds of stretches let alone the gymnastics you attempted here.
Look that's B.S you don't come to a country that has offered you everything you owe your success to then turn around and disrespect it. Now if you feel she wasn't being disrespectful then that's you, but if you do feel she was being disrespectful and saying oh well that's the way the cookie crumbles then I say to every foreigner living on amercia soil eating american bread to survive appreciate it, because we didn't have to let your a** in this country in the fist so that you would have the opportunity to bite the hand that feed you.
 

FiveO

Hall of Fame
Look that's B.S you don't come to a country that has offered you everything you owe your success to then turn around and disrespect it. Now if you feel she wasn't being disrespectful then that's you, but if you do feel she was being disrespectful and saying oh well that's the way the cookie crumbles then I say to every foreigner living on amercia soil eating american bread to survive appreciate it, because we didn't have to let your a** in this country in the fist so that you would have the opportunity to bite the hand that feed you.
I'll say it again, I don't particularly care for Sharapova. However she strikes me as the not atypical young, shallow, overpaid, overhyped on several levels, young athlete, no more no less.

Someone please point out where she describes her dislike for our country or evidence that she is not appreciative of the opportunities gleaned from her time in our country. Were those topics even addressed in the quoted statement?

Do you watch the NHL or MLB at all? Who do those league's imports play for in international competition? In their press conferences, do they describe how grateful they are for the opportunities granted them by the US? In every interview? Every time? Do they all become US citizens?

Just FYI, I am on the flag waving, more conservative than not, patriotic side of the left to right political spectrum and I obviously don't read in the disputed quote what some others have. These reactions to what actually isn't there seem like a parody of some delayed effects of the McCarthy Communist witch hunts. "She said she wanted to beat us. Better dead than red. She's a witch, burn, er...I mean a commie, deport her."

as far as you "say(ing) to every foreigner living on amercia soil eating american bread to survive appreciate it, because we didn't have to let your a** in this country in the fist so that you would have the opportunity to bite the hand that feed you."

a- yes we have to let "them" in if the INS says we do-if you don't like it write the legislature.
b- Lighten up Francis.
 

alwaysatnet

Semi-Pro
You appear to be the one attempting the gymnastics here and its obvious that you should have warmed up before starting your routine as your dismount, in particular, ended in a face-plant, and a mandatory .9 deduction.

Where did Sharapova or more importantly I (as you seem to intimate in paraphrasing my post) indicate her "dislike" or "right to dislike" America?
Loathing? Your kidding? Right? There's interpretation of the written word and then there's apparently what you are doing. Geez. Are you alright? You had to have pulled something on that one.

She stated her goal, which was to beat the American team at the venue where it was being played, in America. Read and project into that what you will. Oh, that's right, you did and alot.
All your "clever" gymnastics references aside, where they should be, when playing in an international competition,country vs. country, emotions can run high.
A statement like,"nothing would please me more than to beat the Americans"
carries a special emotional charge with it. Maybe not to you, but certainly to most people. You don't have to interpret her words or guess at their possible meaning. She comes out and says it.

Pay special attention to the key words "nothing would please me more".
That's slightly different then saying,"I just want to win" which is the spin you want to give her statement. I was careful to leave the door open and perhaps she didn't mean to indicate beating the nation that took her in would give her exceptional pleasure...but that's sure not what she said.
There is little projection in my analysis of her wording.
She said beating America would please her more than anything else. Why is that, I wonder?


She's Russian, she was to play for the Russian Fed Cup Team against our US Fed Cup Team, in the USA, something her countryman were probably paying attention to and caring about, just like the 6 or 7 American Fed Cup fans here in the US and she was disappointing them by pulling out. She tried to put a band-aid on that for Russia, her team, her country.
No disagreement there. She isn't very well liked by her country women and several of them threatened boycotts should she play. I wonder why?

From your performance in this post I take it that if our best player was withdrawing from a Fed Cup Match vs. Russia in Russia and made the same quote you wouldn't be upset because she wouldn't be biting "the hand that fed her". And you would hold her to the same standard of decorum and tact, right?

Or would you have expected Serena while waving matching miniature American and Russian flags, to say: "Regretably, I'm withdrawing due to <insert injury du jour> but I would have loved to represent the US of A to the best of my ability. I don't know who would have won this competition, even if I was able to contribute in my own small way as the Russians are a worthy and formidable team, but I leave having found Russia to be the best country on earth and the Russian people the fans on the planet." Yeah, okay.
My "performance"?
You don't deal with very well with people that disagree with you,do you? I gave two alternate sentences Maria could've given that wouldn't have been nearly so offensive.
Try reading them sometime. It would be time better spent then on your attempts at parody.
But then, it isn't my job to put words in her mouth and I have to assume her own words were an honest expression of her feelings. That's what makes her an ingrate. Why she would derive special unsurpassed pleasure from beathing the Americans, I don't know. I can't think of a reason. Everyone wants to win. There's no crime there. But wanting to rub someone's face in the dirt and deriving special pleasure from it? How do you defend that?
Weakly, I suppose, given your attempts to do so.

It's hard to discern from your ramblings which pisses you off more:

1) the quote, or;
2) the fact that a citizen of a former communist block nation chose remain a citizen of that communist block nation, and/or;
3) she chose to play for the nation of her birth instead of defecting and playing for us.

Methinks you've been watching too many "UnderArmor" commercials. The "We must defend this house!" catch phrase must have hit a real chord with you huh? You need to get over it and resist allowing your emotions to effect your reading comprehension. Loathing? Again just a classic.

See the trainer, take a cold whirlpool, get a rub, hit the showers and again, remember to warm up and break a sweat before attempting these kinds of stretches let alone the gymnastics you attempted here.
Since it's hard for you tell why I find her words so offensive,even though I've already posted why, let me tell you so you don't have to guess.
It shows a needlessly hostile reaction to the nation that gave her the opportunities she has gotten in life. What is so difficult to figure out?
Yeah, she wants to win, but why does beating this nation give her special satisfaction? For psychological reasons only you would know about you fail to see the signifigance of the words she chooses to say. Other posters don't seem to have that mental block. Good luck with your issues.

If you feed a stray and it bites you there is double injury there.
The bite itself and the insult of the ingratitude. I didn't make this issue up and I have never posted on Maria Sharapova, in any context, in my life.
I couldn't care less who she plays for. Russia, the U.S., Gambia, Cuba. I don't care really. But when I see such a glaring example of ingratitude from someone who really has no reason to kick about the hand that life has dealt her, I can't help but throw in my two cents worth.
 
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pow

Hall of Fame
Maria sucks. I'm glad she lost at the AO final so badly and I don't even like Serena that much!
 

CyBorg

Legend
A statement like,"nothing would please me more than to beat the Americans"
carries a special emotional charge with it. Maybe not to you, but certainly to most people. You don't have to interpret her words or guess at their possible meaning. She comes out and says it.
It's a bloody chiche. Sharapova speaks in clichees. Saying that she has said something especially heinous is like some kind of strange compliment as to her mental abilities to express dislike.

It's a standard cliche. Pick any sport in the world and there is always a guy who says: "boy, I would sure love to beat this team on their home soil."
 

Golden Retriever

Hall of Fame
English is easy if you don't want to be a doctor or biologist. I find it ridiculous that in English there is a different Latin or Greek word for every bone in your body. A backbone would be a vertebral column for example. A human is a homosapien. They sound cool but you have to remember tens of thousands of them in order to become a doctor.
 

sondraj

Semi-Pro
I'll say it again, I don't particularly care for Sharapova. However she strikes me as the not atypical young, shallow, overpaid, overhyped on several levels, young athlete, no more no less.

Someone please point out where she describes her dislike for our country or evidence that she is not appreciative of the opportunities gleaned from her time in our country. Were those topics even addressed in the quoted statement?

Do you watch the NHL or MLB at all? Who do those league's imports play for in international competition? In their press conferences, do they describe how grateful they are for the opportunities granted them by the US? In every interview? Every time? Do they all become US citizens?

Just FYI, I am on the flag waving, more conservative than not, patriotic side of the left to right political spectrum and I obviously don't read in the disputed quote what some others have. These reactions to what actually isn't there seem like a parody of some delayed effects of the McCarthy Communist witch hunts. "She said she wanted to beat us. Better dead than red. She's a witch, burn, er...I mean a commie, deport her."

as far as you "say(ing) to every foreigner living on amercia soil eating american bread to survive appreciate it, because we didn't have to let your a** in this country in the fist so that you would have the opportunity to bite the hand that feed you."

a- yes we have to let "them" in if the INS says we do-if you don't like it write the legislature.
b- Lighten up Francis.
Then be appreciative, I think she was disrespectful. If you don't that's your prerogative. Nope don't watch NHL but MLB don't hear to many players talk about how much they would love to beat some one from the country that has afforded them their success. And no this country doesn't have to let any one in our borders, we do. But we don't have to

And no, she isn't a witch, she's unappreciative. That's all, so maybe you should lighten up

oh and FYI I am Maria fan
 
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FiveO

Hall of Fame
All your "clever" gymnastics references aside, where they should be, when playing in an international competition,country vs. country, emotions can run high.
A statement like,"nothing would please me more than to beat the Americans"
carries a special emotional charge with it. Maybe not to you, but certainly to most people. You don't have to interpret her words or guess at their possible meaning. She comes out and says it.

Pay special attention to the key words "nothing would please me more".
That's slightly different then saying,"I just want to win" which is the spin you want to give her statement. I was careful to leave the door open and perhaps she didn't mean to indicate beating the nation that took her in would give her exceptional pleasure...but that's sure not what she said.
There is little projection in my analysis of her wording.
She said beating America would please her more than anything else. Why is that, I wonder?


No disagreement there. She isn't very well liked by her country women and several of them threatened boycotts should she play. I wonder why?

My "performance"?
You don't deal with very well with people that disagree with you,do you? I gave two alternate sentences Maria could've given that wouldn't have been nearly so offensive.
Try reading them sometime. It would be time better spent then on your attempts at parody.
But then, it isn't my job to put words in her mouth and I have to assume her own words were an honest expression of her feelings. That's what makes her an ingrate. Why she would derive special unsurpassed pleasure from beathing the Americans, I don't know. I can't think of a reason. Everyone wants to win. There's no crime there. But wanting to rub someone's face in the dirt and deriving special pleasure from it? How do you defend that?
Weakly, I suppose, given your attempts to do so.

Since it's hard for you tell why I find her words so offensive,even though I've already posted why, let me tell you so you don't have to guess.
It shows a needlessly hostile reaction to the nation that gave her the opportunities she has gotten in life. What is so difficult to figure out?
Yeah, she wants to win, but why does beating this nation give her special satisfaction? For psychological reasons only you would know about you fail to see the signifigance of the words she chooses to say. Other posters don't seem to have that mental block. Good luck with your issues.

If you feed a stray and it bites you there is double injury there.
The bite itself and the insult of the ingratitude. I didn't make this issue up and I have never posted on Maria Sharapova, in any context, in my life.
I couldn't care less who she plays for. Russia, the U.S., Gambia, Cuba. I don't care really. But when I see such a glaring example of ingratitude from someone who really has no reason to kick about the hand that life has dealt her, I can't help but throw in my two cents worth.
Here's the quote, that you're trying to characterize as her "loathing" this country and "hostile" in slightly better context. She is talking about a current event, the next round of Fed Cup which at the time of the announcement (July 10) of her withdrawal was 4 days away (July 14).:

"I know this withdrawal is very frustrating for all my Russian fans, but I promise you it is way more frustrating for me," Sharapova said. "Nothing would (have) made me happier than beating the Americans on American soil."
She chose the word "happier" not "nothing would please me more" not "special unsurpassed pleasure", no, not even "an orgasmic release"

...yet you can't help but mis-quote it over and over again. No, you chose not to paraphrase you chose to wrap it in quotation marks, projecting your own emotions onto what she said to what was clearly a targeted audience, her countrymen and women: "all my Russian fans". She didn't address this statement to all her American fans.

Your analysis starts with mis-quotes and progresses to characterizations beyond dislike, LOATHING and now you've added HOSTILE. Your conclusion:

Someone should ask Sharapova to carify her remarks. Otherwise it will stand that she has declared her loathing for the nation that gave her so much opportunity.
Is that the either/or. If she doesn't clarify the statement, the straight line deduction is that she loaths America? In what alternate universe does that work.

What else could give her this much self admitted joy?
Would she enjoy beating France or Sweden or Japan that much? Someone should find out..
Hard to say as she wasn't due to play France, Sweden or Japan in four days.

How about this for a reach: damage control with her Russian fan base? No?

Maybe it was motivated by these comments, made by the coach and prospective teammate, Dementieva of the Russian Fed Cup Team slated to play the USA upon learning of Sharapova's second withdrawal from Fed Cup competition this year:

Sharapova Criticised for Fed Cup Withdrawal

By Vicki Hodges
Last Updated: 2:48pm BST 10/07/2007



Maria Sharapova has been accused of putting her own interests ahead of her country after pulling out of this weekend's Fed Cup.


Sharapova is yet to appear in the Fed Cup
The world No 2 had agreed to make her Fed Cup debut in Russia's semi-final against America but has since been forced to withdraw through injury.

Her call off has been criticised by Russia's head coach Vladimir Kamelzon and former national champion Anna Dmitrieva who both believe Sharapova, 20, never intended to take part.

"Just forgot about all these promises," Kamelzon said. "Her closest advisers are Americans and they would never allow her to play for Russia."

Dmitrieva added: "She never intended to play in the first place.

"All she wanted was to be included in the Fed Cup team so she would be eligible to play at the 2008 Beijing Olympics."


Sharapova had been struggling with a persistent shoulder injury heading into the Wimbledon champions but was able to reach the fourth round before being defeated by eventual champion Venus Williams.

It is not the first time Sharapova has intended to make her long-awaited Fed Cup debut.

Back in April she was meant to face Spain in Moscow but pulled out on the eve of the first-round tie with a similar injury.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2007/07/10/utsharapova110.xml

Yet you see your characterization of Sharapova's quote as the more reasonable?

And to answer a question of yours, I couldn't care that someone disagrees with an opinion of mine, especially you. I'm actually relieved that we don't think alike.

Oh and BTW if you can find the post where I described Sharapova's comments as gracious or tactful, please, point it out.
 
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arosen

Hall of Fame
She is probably considering becoming a US citizen. Why the heck not, she grew up in US. She owes nothing to Russians. Russian cap Tarpishev knows it, too, so he has always been respectful to her, he knows they would be lucky to ever get her to play for them.
 

Rodditha

Banned
As an American, i would not support that ***** becoming a US citizen. She can become an Ukranian,Polonian.....these countries are closer culturally to Russia.
 

Zverev

Professional
As an American, i would not support that ***** becoming a US citizen. She can become an Ukranian,Polonian.....these countries are closer culturally to Russia.
Man, looking at the comments you have posted here, it's hard to say where you are culturally close to, without offending the other party.
 

Rodditha

Banned
If you can't read i'm culturally close to America as i said.
Mostly all American would be disgusted if Sharapova becomes a US citizen.I didn't mean to offend y'all Europeans.
 

alwaysatnet

Semi-Pro
No, you chose not to paraphrase you chose to wrap it in quotation marks, projecting your own emotions onto what she said to what was clearly a targeted audience, her countrymen and women: "all my Russian fans". She didn't address this statement to all her American fans.
I did indeed paraphrase her quote. If the words happy and pleased aren't just about the same then that's news to me,and the dictionary. And it isn't surprising she was speaking to a Russian audience. She isn't that stupid. Just an ingrate. I see that she is cynically saying one thing to one part of her fan base, and another to the Americans.

And since this one blip on the radar screen won't chase away the big money from corporate sponsorships, she will go on with her privileged lifestyle. But something like this will stick in the craw of tennis fans that merely found her annoying or way too ubiquitous before. A few more slips like this could begin to draw attention to the carefully crafted "Golden Girl" and that would not go down very well in Sharapova land.


And to answer a question of yours, I couldn't care that someone disagrees with an opinion of mine, especially you. I'm actually relieved that we don't think alike.
Especially me? Thanks for the honor.
I'm sure we do think alike, in the same sense that everyone's brain functions are esentially the same. It's just that after all your thinking you keep coming up with the wrong conclusions. That's your cross to bear.
In fact, after two attempts I can see there is no sense in trying to get through your wall of willfull ignorance so I am on to other things.
If you aren't offended by Sharapova's lack of tact and graciousness then I can't change your mind and any more attempts would be a waste of time.
 
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