General career slams won prediction for top players

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  1. davey25

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    Here are mine:

    Federer-18
    Roddick-3
    Ferrero-2
    Hewitt-4
    Safin-4
    Nalbandian-1
    Grosjean-0
    Agassi-8
    Coria-2
    Gaudio-1
    Phillipousis-0
    Moya-1
    Haas-0
    Mirnyi-0
    Massu-0
    Gonzales-1


    S. Williams-10
    V. Williams-4
    Sharapova-12
    Myskina-1
    Kuznetsova-4
    Capriati-3
    Henin-Hardenne-12
    Clijsters-1
    Dementieva-2(she will fix her serve)
    Bovina-0
    Petrova-1
    Zvonareva-1
    Mauresmo-1
    Rubin-0
    Hantuchova-0
    Davenport-5
    Dokic-0
    Molik-1
     
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  2. Tennis Guy

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    That's predicting a lot of Grand Slams for the top players. There's always nobodys and there will be some great players coming from the juniors.
     
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    I think if you add all the slams up, it will be less than the next 40 slams, which would be the next 10 years. So there still will be some slams left for people not here yet, or not contenders yet. Well for the men anyway, the current women are so powerful and dominant especially a motivated Serena, a healthy Henin-Hardenne, and a mature Sharapova the juniors can eat chocolate bars for their treats, very few slams will be available.
     
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    Wow. That is quite a prediction for some of those players. I would be surprised if any of them win half of what you predicted. It is just the fact that there will be a lot of players who will end up being one-slam wonders. Then you have to factor in the new players. If we did this prediction two years ago I doubt if anybody would have predicted Fedex to win 18. Interesting to think about it. I am sure there is another player on both the men's and the women's sides that is just about to break loose and start winning a slam or two.
     
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    What you are forgetting is some of the players I identified are already very new. Sharapova for example who is only 17. As for Roger winning 18 slams, atleast 1 slam a year the next 8 years makes 12, then he just needs 6 additional slams among the 8 years, easy to imagine. So 18.
     
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  6. TwistServe

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    You give sharapova too many slams.. She has sucked since winning wimb
     
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    Sticky this post! we'll check it in 10 years and see how close you are :D
     
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    No way Fed wins 18 - no way ANYONE win 18. There's always a new guy coming along.
     
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    I'd say Fedex will win about 15 or 16 slams. I love watching Gonzo, but I don't think he'll win a slam. I think that you're pretty accurate with your prediction of Dementieva's slam wins.
     
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    Gonzalez will win the French in the next 3 years. If he didn't run into Ferrero in the quarters in 2003 (and pushed my man VERY close) he could of done it then.

    What about Henman? :shock: He WILL win wimbledon, or maybe the French :lol:
     
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    Davey,
    I will be impressed if Fedex will still be on the tour in 8 years. let alone still winning slams. I am a huge Federer fan, but I just don't think this is realistic. I would love it if he did, but I just don't think it is possible with the depth of men's tennis.
     
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    There is no way Fed wins 18. As good as he is I would give him 10-12 TOPS.
     
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    Agassi was winning slams into his 30s and Federer and certainly not less talented than Agassi. So winning a slam at 31 is beyond realistic for Federer, it is likely. Not even on tour in eight years if he wants to be. LOL! get real.

    As for Henman he will never win a slam.
     
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    Maria has not sucked the last few weeks. Except for the loss to Molik she has been very impressive and is getting her confidence back. She, Serena, and Justine are clearly the most talented, powerful, and mentally tough women in the game and will be for some time health and motivation permitting.
     
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    Dementieva is definitely going to win a slam next year. She's consistently got deep into slams this year and I think she'll finally get over it and control her nerves better.
     
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    She needs to reconstruct her serve. I hope she does. She has the power and athleticsm to have a great serve. She doesnt even have a decent serve. What a worthless lame serve she has and she still made 2 slam finals with that huge disablity. Amazing.
     
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    lol @ Dementieva fixing her serve and winning multiple Grand Slams :oops: She decided to quit and have kids, instead.

    Some interesting observations here from our long banned but not forgotten davey25. It took a little over 12 years for his Federer prediction to come true and then surpassed. Nadal, Djokovic and Murray don't even rate what with the latter two still being juniors. Maria with 12 slams also gets a chuckle... and Serena with only 10 (!)
     
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    I mentioned it in another thread, but it really is more a propos for this one. On another forum, the majority of 2004 predictions had Fed winning at most another 5 or so slams, because his peers like Nalbadian, Hewitt, Roddick etc are too good, and they will stop Fed from winning much more than 5-7 slams because they will be far too competitive for him.

    Sure can't fault this guy for his Fed prediction though
     
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    Lol
     
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  20. ghostofMecir

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    Indeed.

    Yes, but now, new fans of tennis, i.e., Nadal fans starting circa May 2005 and Djokovic fans starting circus January 2008 look back and call that a weak era even though at the time few thought Federer could dominate. If you look at fans' predictions BEFORE the 2004 season, very, very few people thought Federer would dominate because there was so much depth in the game. But as Federer started winning and winning, suddenly, that very same field that people thought would make for competitive slams all of a sudden became "weak."

    Apparently, the logical reasoning wasn't that a singular talent had risen above everyone, but that the entire field (hundreds of players) was somehow weaker than any before by pure luck and circumstance. Yes, that was the logical reasoning--simultaneously, a hundred players were all garbage that allowed one to rise as opposed to the less rational thought that one player was simply a singular talent.
     
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  21. metsman

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    week era
     
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    you mean the wikipedia warrior knowledge of djokovic and nadal fans isn't as accurate as actually following at the time?
     
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  23. KINGROGER

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    They say weak era, but really guys like Roddick (03-05, 06 USO and 09 Wimbledon at least), Nalbandian, Safin, Hewitt til 05, Davydenko are quality players.
     
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    Safin and Nalbandian were good on their day but lacked consistency. Hewitt as you said only consistent till 2005 after which he declined severely. Davydenko again had too weak a serve to win slams
     
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    Of the male players mentioned in the initial thread, written almost 13 years ago, only Federer and Haas (just) are still playing.
     
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  26. KINGROGER

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    True but.

    Nalbandian denied Fed at both 03 HC slams (he couldve defo won USO) then Fed got revenge on 04 at both.

    Safin threat at 04-05 AO.

    Davydenko always a tricky player making slam QF/SF.

    The weakest slam most would agree 06 AO. Anklerer linping past Haas, Davydenko and Baghdatis.

    Then by 07 you had Gonzalez GOATing and young Djokovic emerging on HC. Nadal was always there at Wimbledon since 06.
     
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    This is probably my favorite post in TTW history. Amazing to think we went from "Men's tennis is so good" to "weak era" in a snap.
     
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  28. mike danny

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    Fixed for Hewitt. Hewitt was still a top player in 2005 and gave Fed a tough match in the 2005 USO SF. He reached 2 slam semis and a final and would have done better without Federer on his side of the draw at Wimb and USO. He finished the year ranked no.4.
     
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    Yes, and his username only adds to the legend. :)
     
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  30. Xavier G

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    He got most of them wrong, but a pretty good guess with RF's Slam total, which he's now surpassed.
    Fed stopped Roddick so many times I felt sorry for Andy...
     
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    This poster wasn't all that close, but at least he acknowledged Federer's talent and gave him double digit slams

    This one's closer. And the OP was even closer than that (so far anyway).
     
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    So Federer has surpassed every expectation.
     
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  33. TheAssassin

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    Oh Marat Marat... :(
     
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    Unbelievable underestimating of the Swiss Maestro.
     
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    One of the reasons I bumped this thread :)
     
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    Think we need to do another one of these for the current crop of players.These are my picks
    Murray- 7
    Nadal- 17
    Federer- 21
    Djokovic - 16
    Wawrinka - 4
    Cilic - 1
    Thiem - 6
    Nishikori - 0
    Raonic - 0
    Dimitrov - 2
     
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  37. KINGROGER

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    My bad I meant til and including 05. Shame injuries derailed him.
     
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  38. mike danny

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    I don't see Murray getting to 7 slams. 5 is his ceiling IMO.

    Thiem with 8 slams? LOL

    Nishikori with 2 slams? LOL

    Dimitrov with 2 slams? Super LOL
     
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    Hang on there. You don't wanna end up like @mrwise ;)

    Adjusted my expectations after a closer inspection aswell
     
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    I can see Thiem winning 2-3 RG at most. Maybe an Australia.
    Zverev looks good for majors once big 4 are gone.

    But surely some young player(s) will rise up and take over. Lost/MUG gen will largely be skipped.
     
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    right now, thiem is second best on clay so I reckon he'll get a like 3. I think he'll manage to figure his game out on the other surfaces aswell to get to eight. But this is me clutching at straws. This generation hasn't brought anything special yet
     
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    Wow... this is an amazing prediction considering the OP made it in 2004!
     
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    It's fun reading a 13 year old thread, man some stuff seemed impossible.
     
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    if this happens, man that's crazy, top 3 in open era would be Fed, Nadal and Djoko. Like how???
     
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    Loool
     
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    Ah, the man of bans, davey25.

    Not too bad for the men given nobody saw Nadal, Djok and Ray at the time.

    But the women's projection is very bad.

    Serena has a way of defeating any prediction. :)
     
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  47. NoleFam

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    Serena Williams....10? Sharapova...12? :D Good Federer prediction though.
     
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  48. Phoenix1983

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    Is this the original NadalAgassi account?
     
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    After seeing this is better to not make any predictions ;)

    For what we know Felix will have a Nadal like boom in the ATP.

    Makes me hopeful though, that tennis gets some new big champions soon.
     
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    probably.
     
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