Not sure if you are making a reference to jollyroger,........ If you are, this will be the last post I respond to you. If not, my apologies. Here is my answer: As you could see above, nostradamus is saying if the 4G lasts twice as long, then the cost of it (nearly twice as much) is worth it. I stated you can't, because they snap at about the same time. I have completed reviews on both strings, and liked both. Both strings have good attributes. However, both strings snapped between the 8-10 hour mark. The 4g did not last 18-20 hours. In fact, although it held it's initial tension better than black magic, it did in fact have a wider tension loss than the black magic, and began losing its attributes before the black magic did.