GENESIS WHITE MAGIC

#1
Has anyone tried Genesis White Magic? My son currently uses Genesis Trionic 17 and is happy with the performance but I'd like to find a budget string with a little longer life. He is 15, strong, and only gets about four quality hours out of the Trionic. Thanks
 

Kevo

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#2
What does 4 quality hours mean? I know a lot of people cut poly out before they break it, but I don't think you should have to accept that as a general rule given the variety of polys out there. I usually like polys that are a bit muted. They tend to break in after 20-30 minutes, or sitting in the bag for a week or two works as well, and then they pretty much play the same until right before they break. Sometimes that 10-15 minutes before they break is the best.

Anyway, I haven't tried any Genesis strings, but I had good luck with Topspin Cyber Blue, Kirschbaum Competition and Spiky Shark. I could play all of those until breakage with no real issues. When I was playing more regularly I was getting about 20 hours of play out of the Kirschbaum strings, but I was using the PSL with an 18x20 pattern as well. That helped a bit. I think in my previous 16x19 frame I was getting about 14 hours or so out of Competition.

I think if my kid is playing tennis when he's a teenager and he only get's 4 hours out of a string I'd probably make him string his racquets and pay for the string. When I was in high school I switched to Kevlar to get my dad off my case, and I totally get it now. BTW, I played fine with the kevlar, and it lasted a good long time. Probably wouldn't recommend it as a first choice these days with all the good polys out there, but it's still an option.
 
#3
I'm not at all upset with my son for needing new strings so often. He doesn't ask for the new strings but I see the difference in his ball flight and then I see him over swinging to try and regain his favored shots. A few years ago my son injured his elbow and I attribute the injury to playing with "dead" strings. Since then I check the dynamic tension of his string bed often. When the DT reaches a specific number the racquet has lost quite a bit of performance. This lost performance is not as noticeable to those creating less spin with less power, but that is his edge over many other players. Therefore, I restring his racquets as often as needed and will continue to do so. I would like to find a string that maintains it's elasticity for a few more hours than his current string yet offers the same performance at an affordable price.
 

Kevo

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#4
Well, I am not so sure that playing with dead strings is a direct factor in tennis elbow or wrist problems. The thing with polys going dead is they lose tension. A string bed with less tension should make a softer impact. I think players might overcompensate looking for the feel that goes away. Anyway, with elbow issues being a potential problem, I'd try to move to a nylon string he likes. Since you are ahead of the game if he can find something cheaper than the trionic that lasts longer than 4 hours, I think you'd have a pretty good shot at coming up with something but it might require some testing.

I'd probably start with a 15g tournament nylon and play with the tension a bit to see how he does with that. I know some people don't think you can get enough spin with a nylon string, but I've never found it to be that big an issue. I recently picked up an old rossignol frame with some tournament nylon in it, and I didn't notice any real difference in spin from my normal frame. Kickers kick and lobs run just like they should.

https://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Ki...60_String_Reel/descpageACKIRSCH-KSTDSG15.html

https://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Forten_Nylon_15L_660_String_Reels/descpageACFORTEN-FNR.html

Anyway, I wish I had a magic bullet answer for you, but I don't think one exists within your parameters.
 
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#5
Has anyone tried Genesis White Magic? My son currently uses Genesis Trionic 17 and is happy with the performance but I'd like to find a budget string with a little longer life. He is 15, strong, and only gets about four quality hours out of the Trionic. Thanks
I have played with the White Magic (as well as most of the Genesis string line). It's a smooth co-poly that plays much like Black Magic, but slightly softer. Both WM and BM shine with their ball pocketing, feel, and tension maintenance. Since they're smooth polys, they don't have quite the spin potential as the shaped Trionic. A thinner gauge BM and WM (17/18) will increase spin and have a slightly softer bed.

If you're looking for a more shaped/textured poly (like Trionic), I would suggest Typhoon. It plays much like ALU Power Rough but much softer, better tension maintenance, and is far less expensive. It is my current string of choice. It is very spinny like Trionic but softer (especially in the blue color).

Since your son has had elbow issues, may I suggest a few things: (1)Drop the tension at least 10% when playing with a full bed of poly. It will lessen some of the impact on the arm, create slightly better ball pocketing, and will enhance the snap-back for added spin potential. (2)Try a hybrid with poly mains and monofilament synthetic crosses. You can maintain your original desired tension with this combo. (3)Try a hybrid with shaped/textured poly mains with a smooth and softer co-poly cross. Dunlop Black Widow, MSV Co-Focus, Diadem Evolution, Polyfibre TCS, Solinco Tour Bite Soft are some of the softer co-polys that I've tried in this setup combo.

Cheers
 
#7
I'm trying White Magic right now in my new Prince 93P. Having been a previous Black Magic fan, I can say this string is very much like Black Magic just softer. So far I'm loving it.
 
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#8
I'm currently using black magic 16 in my 2015 Blade 16X19 and am playing well with it.
I bought the racket used and am not sure how a fresh string job feels. At the moment, the black magic feels slightly dead but still has good control - nothing exceptional but good all-around with average to decent spin.
I'm not sure if it's the racket or the string but shots feel slightly harsh and something softer may be nice in this racket.
Are there any other standout properties other than being softer in comparison to black magic?
Black magic is a decent string for its price & playability - it was crazy good priced by TW during the Black Friday deals if I remember correctly.
 
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