Getting sick of Microsoft Windows

Raul_SJ

Legend
Mostly the latter, although when Microsoft merged their consumer OS with their professional OS they were a little sloppy and left quite a few holes that have since been closed up. At this point Windows is about as secure as any other OS, but due to its prevalence in large commercial enterprises it is still heavily targeted. Although the popular targets for malware these days are mobile devices (especially web browsers) and cloud services.
I am using Win 10 and Chrome browser and using the Windows default settings which I believe includes Defender Anti Virus. The Chrome browser has picked up some malware. When I click on a link in Google search results, it gets redirected to some other site. I then press the Back key and click link again, and it works OK... Does not seem to happen when I launch IE browser... What is the best way to get rid of this?
 

dgold44

G.O.A.T.
If you are mainly using the computer for web browsing and only have light word processing and spreadsheet needs, I highly recommend getting a Google Chromebook. It boots up in 6 seconds, has a 12 hour battery life and you can get a decent laptop for around $300. Virus protection is built in and about once a month, it will ask you to restart the computer for an update. The update usually takes 30 seconds, you log back in and that is all for the month.

You need a Google account to log in. The whole computer just runs the Chrome web browser. Use Google Docs and Google Sheets online for word processing and spreadsheets. If you have more complicated needs then you can download MS Word app for free and pay for downloading the MS Excel app. You can connect to the Android store and get many other apps.
Does it have room for a CD drive ???
 

dgold44

G.O.A.T.
1. You should always update your computer, security and performance.
2. If you don’t do any hard work on a computer and use it mainly for email, web browsing, social media, etc. get an iPad.
3. If a tablet is not your style and you want a computer experience, get a Chrome Book.
Will an iPad be able to accept MIcrosoft word doc ???
 

dgold44

G.O.A.T.
LOL it went from a CD drive to a DVD drive and to nothing now on most new machines. People just stream stuff or use USB.
All myself is on dvds backed up !!
I did not buy a cloud storage and I guess I could put the cloud in my cabinet
 

Hokiein304

New User
Man, I have Windows 10 at home and at work and never have any issues with updates but I have updates scheduled for overnight when I'm not using either computer. Maybe you have a bug on your computer that is downloading a bunch of malware and stealing your identity. Better take it to a good computer shop and have it checked out. Or better yet, trash that one and buy an newer, faster model.
 

mikeler

Moderator
LOL it went from a CD drive to a DVD drive and to nothing now on most new machines. People just stream stuff or use USB.
I’ll have to look if it has USB on my Chromebook. I’ve got everything backed up in the cloud.
 

Peters

Professional
The time is coming in the next few months when I will have no choice but to say goodbye to my trusty Windows 7 which has been my OS for 10 years. :(

Support and updates are ending in January.
 

dblsplayer

Rookie
Will an iPad be able to accept MIcrosoft word doc ???
For routine word docs yes. An iPad comes with Pages word processing app. You can save and edit docs as .doc (MS Word) or PDFs. Also comes with similar MS apps for Excel ( Numbers) and PowerPoint ( Keynote). If you do a lot of typing, you can purchase an attachable keyboard for your iPad. Using my iPad now;)
 
I am using Win 10 and Chrome browser and using the Windows default settings which I believe includes Defender Anti Virus. The Chrome browser has picked up some malware. When I click on a link in Google search results, it gets redirected to some other site. I then press the Back key and click link again, and it works OK... Does not seem to happen when I launch IE browser... What is the best way to get rid of this?
Check your Chrome extensions. Disable or remove any you don't recognize. Do the same for search providers.
 
For routine word docs yes. An iPad comes with Pages word processing app. You can save and edit docs as .doc (MS Word) or PDFs. Also comes with similar MS apps for Excel ( Numbers) and PowerPoint ( Keynote). If you do a lot of typing, you can purchase an attachable keyboard for your iPad. Using my iPad now;)
Microsoft also has great Office iOS apps. Requires an Office365 subscription, though.
 

dblsplayer

Rookie
I think a big difference is all the bloatware Windows loads onto home computers.
That’s absolutely true. Some manufacturers have so many trial programs and protection programs that bombard you with reminders and offers, they just get in the way. Almost impossible to just get a computer with just a clean install of Windows (any version). Unless you are using a computer provided by an IT department, you can count on bloatware.
 
That’s absolutely true. Some manufacturers have so many trial programs and protection programs that bombard you with reminders and offers, they just get in the way. Almost impossible to just get a computer with just a clean install of Windows (any version). Unless you are using a computer provided by an IT department, you can count on bloatware.
That’s absolutely true. Some manufacturers have so many trial programs and protection programs that bombard you with reminders and offers, they just get in the way. Almost impossible to just get a computer with just a clean install of Windows (any version). Unless you are using a computer provided by an IT department, you can count on bloatware.
You can purchase any computer from the Microsoft Store and it will come as a Signature Edition. Basically a clean Windows install with an Office365 trial installed. No other adware or bloat.
 

Chadalina

Legend
Windows 10 is really bad. Both track everything you do. You have to unchecked everything from unique advertiser id to allow microsoft to do what ever they want (during install, 10 boxes). I use a corp version that requires no keys.

Google is just as bad. They want everything on their cloud (obvious reasons). Most have usb-a but if you get a chromebook makes sure it has usb-c

I have a seperate ssd for windows 10, have to use for video games :( Otherwise peppermint 10 for me

You cant complain about facebook and other data miners if your using windows 10

 
Sorry to be pedantic, but MacOS does not use a BSD kernel. It uses a (highly) modified Mach kernel. It does use (mostly) the BSD userland utilities (all of the Unix-y command line stuff).
Your post reminds me of this old copy pasta :

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux
 

Chadalina

Legend
OK... And any good Anti Virus scans, particularly for browser malware?
Do you understand what a virus scanner does? Its like spell check, monitors everything your doing, its the definition of spyware...

WIndows defender is probably the best scanner. Use firefox with ublock origin (most viri are from ads, not the website). If your paranoid, use No-Script
 
SSD, decent processor and at least 8GB of RAM + Win 10 is pretty rock solid. I work in IT. I know what I'm talking about.
I enjoy windows 10 when it’s working the only time I get worried is when it’s the widespread big updates like anniversary where windows basically reinstalls itself. I’ve had problems with very high spec computers not responding well to updates . Aside from that I do prefer it to 8.1 which is what my desktop runs on
 

Raul_SJ

Legend
Do you understand what a virus scanner does? Its like spell check, monitors everything your doing, its the definition of spyware...

WIndows defender is probably the best scanner. Use firefox with ublock origin (most viri are from ads, not the website). If your paranoid, use No-Script
There are some AV that are one-time only scans that check your system. Not all of them fave to be running 24/7.
 
Do you understand what a virus scanner does? Its like spell check, monitors everything your doing, its the definition of spyware...

WIndows defender is probably the best scanner. Use firefox with ublock origin (most viri are from ads, not the website). If your paranoid, use No-Script
Windows defender is legit it saved my from the ramnit botnet a few years ago . Laptop had come with it on there go figure
 

Chadalina

Legend
Windows defender is legit it saved my from the ramnit botnet a few years ago . Laptop had come with it on there go figure
My comp of windows 10 isnt legit and has a virus built in (gotta run offline mode), just install, run defender and its fine :)

Half the time i cant tell if its a good virus or bad virus. All of my keygens show up as one, but they work great.

There is nothing real on this drive anyways aside from battle.net and steam.
 

dgold44

G.O.A.T.
Windows needs more updates due to the vast collection of peripherals it supports and due to the security risk of being widely used in consumer homes.
How do I get XP back and get rid of 10

I Posted and everyone laughs at me and I don’t see the humor
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
Sorry to be pedantic, but MacOS does not use a BSD kernel. It uses a (highly) modified Mach kernel. It does use (mostly) the BSD userland utilities (all of the Unix-y command line stuff).
Yup, thanks. The last I read about this was in 2004 or so, so my memory is foggy. I thought it was NetBSD. But you are right, it is the userland stuff, and that IMHO sucks compared to the Linux alternatives.
I've always installed coreutils and used the "g" versions of the unixy stuff.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
Actually, the updates should likely apply to both the G4 and G6, as the OS is still very similar.
There is some kind of rule with android that a model only gets one major upgrade. So I am stuck on 7.0 which probably updated in April 2018.
If I press System Updates, it says your device is up-to-date.

Also, a year back or so, even withuot any update or app installed, it suddenly became slow.
So now after a tap or swipe, it just does nothing for 5-10 seconds. Very frequently the browser will crash and ask me to "wait" or "close". I press an app that used to be fast, and it takes ages to load.

I;ve earlier tried out some virus scanners, but nothing came up.

This never happened to me with an iphone, even an old iphone my mum uses (iphone 4).
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
Will an iPad be able to accept MIcrosoft word doc ???
If you don't have MS Word, (I may have it on my iPad) you can still connect to google drive and open it there. I believe MS word and excel are free on the iPad but i could be wrong.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
Your post reminds me of this old copy pasta :

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux
Richard Stallman rocks !!
 

Bartelby

Talk Tennis Guru
It's not an Anroid rule. It's what your phone maker has decided. Apple gives you at least five years of updates.

If you have a Pixel phone then you get at least three major updates, but other Android makers have overlays on the OS so it's their job to update both.

I suppose that if your device is not being either updated or receiving security patches then slowing down could be the equivalent of ageing. I've had older phones, however, that still worked well.

There is some kind of rule with android that a model only gets one major upgrade. So I am stuck on 7.0 which probably updated in April 2018.
If I press System Updates, it says your device is up-to-date.

Also, a year back or so, even withuot any update or app installed, it suddenly became slow.
So now after a tap or swipe, it just does nothing for 5-10 seconds. Very frequently the browser will crash and ask me to "wait" or "close". I press an app that used to be fast, and it takes ages to load.

I;ve earlier tried out some virus scanners, but nothing came up.

This never happened to me with an iphone, even an old iphone my mum uses (iphone 4).
 
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Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Seems every damn week I get a new must have download and my computer has several new bugs . Few months later ...it’s fixed but new download has several new bugs

Every damn time I turn my computer on it’s a new download that takes 45 min and new bugs
How can most of the world take such incompetence and madness
I'm still on windows 8.1 but I hear ya. Sounds the same for me. :D I'm just amused because you describe it exactly how I would. I might have said 1 hour instead of 45 minutes. Desperate.
 

Bartelby

Talk Tennis Guru
I think Windows has a twice yearly update cycle when one would be enough, as with ios or android.
 

Chadalina

Legend
How do I get XP back and get rid of 10

I Posted and everyone laughs at me and I don’t see the humor
Win xp is funny with wifi and hd monitors :) You forget how old it is

Use Libre office for your word/excel. Its open source and works fine

Ubuntu is a great choice is you dont multitask, feels more like a mac.


Linux mint is nice if you want that old school win nt feel.


My personal favorite is peppermint. It has everything i use preinstalled except thunderbird and libre. Image writer, bit torrent client, media player (all the codecs), firefox, etc. It also has microsoft office cloud installed, if you have id you can use that.


All can be demo'd on a usb drive before you install. You just boot off it and it runs the system, on usb3 its fast.

A friend of a friend owns this company. I got to beta test it, has the tor browser preinstalled.


On linux now, as you see it looks like xp with a theme that is easier on the eye. Your operating system runs apps, all it does. It doesnt really matter what you use now because the application you use looks the same on all platforms.

 
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Sentinel

Bionic Poster
My personal favorite is peppermint. It has everything i use preinstalled except thunderbird and libre. Image writer, bit torrent client, media player (all the codecs), firefox, etc. It also has microsoft office cloud installed, if you have id you can use that.
My only issue is deciding which desktop or laptop to buy.
When i check amazon.in I find so many, with a price range that also varies highly that I am lost.
 

Chadalina

Legend
My only issue is deciding which desktop or laptop to buy.
When i check amazon.in I find so many, with a price range that also varies highly that I am lost.
If you dont really use it as a laptop (mobile device), it comes down to the monitor size you desire. Laptops cant have big screens because of battery life and form

Link me if you want, been doing computer hardware since the pentium166 :) People over estimate what they actually do with computers, buying a big one. If your not a gamer/cad/photoshop/vid editor everything works now adays
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
If you dont really use it as a laptop (mobile device), it comes down to the monitor size you desire. Laptops cant have big screens because of battery life and form
Yup, i do most of my stuff on one table.
A desktop could have a 19 or 21 inch screen easily for a lot less money.
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Turn on computer.

''Please don't switch off your computer. Files are being updated.''

Files eventually update after 30 minutes. Woohoo.

Moments later.

''Please restart your computer. Files need to be updated.''

 

weelie

Semi-Pro
Can Apple use MS word ???
If you don't HAVE to have MS word, freeware alternatives exist. Google docs is very similar (and compatible), online, usable on Chromebook and what have you.

I've been thinking of setting my home PC as a Chromebook (downloading and installing Cloudready/Chromium). The PC is now 6 years old, getting slow. Running Win 7. I might try a reinstall of Win 7 first, that usually helps, but don't know if it is possible nowadays.

I have another even older laptop running Linux Mint 13 or whatever. Set that up like 5-10 years ago. I assume it still works ok, but it is just never used, could not figure a purpose for it. .
 

Raul_SJ

Legend
If you don't HAVE to have MS word, freeware alternatives exist. Google docs is very similar (and compatible), online, usable on Chromebook and what have you.
I tried freeware such as LibreOffice but would prefer to use MS Word. Even the old versions of MS Word from 2000 is fine.
But I suppose nowadays, you need to buy a yearly subscription to Office365?
 

sredna42

Hall of Fame
Seems every damn week I get a new must have download and my computer has several new bugs . Few months later ...it’s fixed but new download has several new bugs

Every damn time I turn my computer on it’s a new download that takes 45 min and new bugs
How can most of the world take such incompetence and madness
Gods below i hate windows now. Win98 was good, xp was the last ok version. If i wasn't so jaded and lazy I'd figure out how to use linux.
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
I hauled out a 2008 Dell laptop yesterday to run a program and it ran it poorly but it was what I had. I used to run it on macOS but it runs better on Windows. WINE has bugs.

This morning, I brought in a network card and cleaned up an old 2008 desktop with a Core i7 and 14 GB of RAM and an SSD. I don't think that I've used it for several months or even a year.

Both systems, when they booted up and were connect to the network, went haywire running Windows Update and the .net optimization service. The desktop which hasa 4 cores and 8 threads is running at 45% CPU usage which is a lot of the thing. The old desktop, and yes, it has a DVD drive, will probably be busy for several hours doing Windows update and other associated tasks that Windows likes to do if you haven't used it in a while. Fortunately the hardware on this relic is strong enough to manage that without affecting foreground applications. I'm giving some consideration to updating the video card on this old thing to drive a 4K display. I wouldn't need one of my Macs to do some work if that were the case. The Mac is currently also running a program that runs better on Windows (it's a huge Java program and often hangs on macOS).
 
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