Gimelstob resigns

sureshs

Bionic Poster
I don’t think there’s a chance he does anything on air for Tennis Channel. At least not anytime soon
Everything will be forgiven and he will be back pretty soon, after a few apologies. I also don't think his production company would be blacklisted by the ATP. Money will keep flowing in.
 

Bartelby

Talk Tennis Guru
It does mention in the NYT that he will not be returning anytime soon to the Tennis Channel, so he's doing penance as one used to say.

I don’t think there’s a chance he does anything on air for Tennis Channel. At least not anytime soon
 
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James Blake is doing a great job calling matches for the TC. They don't need JG in any capacity. I wish TC had an easy way to contact them with comments about this matter as well as other questions and observations about their broadcasts. Why would they not have an email address???
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
his production company is still under contract with the ATP and the United States Tennis Association (USTA); he is still the manager of former professional tennis player Lindsay Davenport and an unpaid adviser to ATP player John Isner.

https://thinkprogress.org/wta-tennis-justin-gimelstob-assault-4da01a5c0ce1/


So there is a USTA connection too. That just adds to the list of powers behind him.

Let us see how the ATP and USTA react to this.

I don't expect anything from Isner.
 

r2473

G.O.A.T.
It does mention in the NYT that he will not be returning anytime soon to the Tennis Channel, so he's doing penance as one used to say.
his production company is still under contract with the ATP and the United States Tennis Association (USTA); he is still the manager of former professional tennis player Lindsay Davenport and an unpaid adviser to ATP player John Isner.

https://thinkprogress.org/wta-tennis-justin-gimelstob-assault-4da01a5c0ce1/


So there is a USTA connection too. That just adds to the list of powers behind him.

Let us see how the ATP and USTA react to this.

I don't expect anything from Isner.
He’ll continue to do things behind the scenes for sure. But not on air. At least not for a while.

But no, he’s not going away
 

Shaolin

G.O.A.T.
James Blake is doing a great job calling matches for the TC. They don't need JG in any capacity. I wish TC had an easy way to contact them with comments about this matter as well as other questions and observations about their broadcasts. Why would they not have an email address???
Because they don't care about the concerns of the viewers.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
James Blake is doing a great job calling matches for the TC. They don't need JG in any capacity. I wish TC had an easy way to contact them with comments about this matter as well as other questions and observations about their broadcasts. Why would they not have an email address???
LOL email is ancient. Use twitter @TennisChannel
 

NoleFam

G.O.A.T.
I lost respect for Djokovic bc of his support for Gimmelstob. Not as a tennis player but as a person.
What support for Gimelstob? They both wanted Kermode gone and so did the other members of the board. They had a common interest which has nothing to do with supporting him. Take away Gimelstob's vote and Kermode is still gone.
 

wangs78

Hall of Fame
What support for Gimelstob? They both wanted Kermode gone and so did the other members of the board. They had a common interest which has nothing to do with supporting him. Take away Gimelstob's vote and Kermode is still gone.
I hear you. Tough call for Nole for sure, but supporting Gimelstob to have his vote was the wrong move in my view. He made the politically expedient move. Plenty of players were ok with Kermode, so it's not as if Nole was facing pressure to get Kermode ousted - it was his own personal agenda. And he he was willing to support an entitled, a-hole with a track record of verbal abuse and violence to achieve his own personal goal.
 

Tshooter

Legend
James Blake is doing a great job calling matches for the TC. They don't need JG in any capacity. I wish TC had an easy way to contact them with comments about this matter as well as other questions and observations about their broadcasts. Why would they not have an email address???
Why would they have an email address ? So every random crackpot can give them "feedback" ? :rolleyes: The best way to show your displeasure is to stop watching.

You can contact their corporate overlord. Here you go.

http://sbgi.net/contact/
 

NoleFam

G.O.A.T.
I hear you. Tough call for Nole for sure, but supporting Gimelstob to have his vote was the wrong move in my view. He made the politically expedient move. Plenty of players were ok with Kermode, so it's not as if Nole was facing pressure to get Kermode ousted - it was his own personal agenda. And he he was willing to support an entitled, a-hole with a track record of verbal abuse and violence to achieve his own personal goal.
That's what players are supposed to do--go to their player representatives, state their views and causes, and ask them to vote for their interests. That's probably what every member of the council did which ever side they were on. Whether Djokovic had an agenda or not is unknown but he did seemingly want Kermode ousted and he was not alone. Gimelstob had only 1/3 of the power needed to oust Kermode, when all of the members voted Kermode out. It's not about supporting Gimelstob if you wanted something like that done. It's about getting the reps to vote for your interests and he was just one vote. The other two votes sealed Kermode's fate anyway and I have no idea what personal feelings has to do with a situation like this.
 

wangs78

Hall of Fame
That's what players are supposed to do--go to their player representatives, state their views and causes, and ask them to vote for their interests. That's probably what every member of the council did which ever side they were on. Whether Djokovic had an agenda or not is unknown but he did seemingly want Kermode ousted and he was not alone. Gimelstob had only 1/3 of the power needed to oust Kermode, when all of the members voted Kermode out. It's not about supporting Gilmelstob if you wanted something like that done. It's about getting the reps to vote for your interests and he was just one vote. The other two votes sealed Kermode's fate anyway and I have no idea what personal feelings has to do with a situation like this.
My point is that not supporting a violent criminal should outweigh the desire to achieve the goals of your electorate.
 

wangs78

Hall of Fame
My point is that not supporting a violent criminal should outweigh the desire to achieve the goals of your electorate. It is not as if ousting Kermode was going to result in millions of humanitarian aid to a third world country, in which case you could make a ethical argument. This was an example of ethics being sacrificed for money interests.
 

NoleFam

G.O.A.T.
My point is that not supporting a violent criminal should outweigh the desire to achieve the goals of your electorate.
You see it as supporting Gimelstob and I don't. Until today, Gimelstob held one of the most powerful positions among the ATP whether the players disliked him or not, and he was the who was supposed to be supporting the players. He was a player representative after all, so his job was to have their best interests in mind and vote accordingly. I have no idea how this equals supporting him especially since he shared that power with two other members, who also voted the same way.
 

Tshooter

Legend
... He was a player representative after all, so his job was to have their best interests in mind and vote accordingly. I have no idea how this equals supporting him especially since he shared that power with two other members, who also voted the same way.
Bingo.
 

Bartelby

Talk Tennis Guru
They all exist in a very small interpersonally-dependent bubble and Gimmelstob even travelled from America to Europe just so that he could personally tell Djokovic the sorry news.

We have one or two people claiming to do something for players, moreover, but what they have actually done for them and how Kermode's sacking was useful in that regard has not been explained.

You see it as supporting Gimelstob and I don't. Until today, Gimelstob held one of the most powerful positions among the ATP whether the players disliked him or not, and he was the who was supposed to be supporting the players. He was a player representative after all, so his job was to have their best interests in mind and vote accordingly. I have no idea how this equals supporting him especially since he shared that power with two other members, who also voted the same way.
 

smoledman

G.O.A.T.
How can the judge claim he wasn't provoked? If someone spoke trash about my family member, I'd punch them in the mouth. This is part of the ongoing wussification of society and I don't like it. Too bad Stan is a f-en virtue signaler.
 

Tshooter

Legend
My point is that not supporting a violent criminal...
:rolleyes:

I’ve trashed him consistently on this site but this characterization seems a wee over-the-top and at odds with the action taken by the DA and the Judge. (Though arguably technically accurate :unsure:)
 
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Chadalina

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James Blake is doing a great job calling matches for the TC. They don't need JG in any capacity. I wish TC had an easy way to contact them with comments about this matter as well as other questions and observations about their broadcasts. Why would they not have an email address???
I'll take blake over gimblslob any day of the week, but my chair has more personality than james. He is very generic
 

Bartelby

Talk Tennis Guru
The judge did not hear Gimmelstob's version of the event in court because he refused to contest the charges and hence he did not defend or explain his conduct in court.

Your own tendencies toward violence are hardly germane to the matter.

How can the judge claim he wasn't provoked? If someone spoke trash about my family member, I'd punch them in the mouth. This is part of the ongoing wussification of society and I don't like it. Too bad Stan is a f-en virtue signaler.
 

smoledman

G.O.A.T.
The judge did not hear Gimmelstob's version of the event in court because he refused to contest the charges and hence he did not defend or explain his conduct in court.

Your own tendencies toward violence are hardly germane to the matter.
That's because Justin Gimelstob is already guilty as far as the world is concerned! The world hates Justin Gimelstob! It's a vast conspiracy against him!
 

smoledman

G.O.A.T.
I am going to create a Change.org petition to reinstate Justin Gimelstob as ATP something something and Make Justin Great Again!
 

Bartelby

Talk Tennis Guru
Trying to turn what Gimmelstob did into a political parody is just not working for you!

I am going to create a Change.org petition to reinstate Justin Gimelstob as ATP something something and Make Justin Great Again!
That's because Justin Gimelstob is already guilty as far as the world is concerned! The world hates Justin Gimelstob! It's a vast conspiracy against him!
 

wangs78

Hall of Fame
...he shared that power with two other members, who also voted the same way.
Exactly, Nole could have waited a year or so for a new player representative to take Gimelstob's place who would be highly likely to vote the same way.

I realize this is not completely black and white, but for me it is not that grey either. Gimelstob is a terrible human being. I will say I don't know the guy personally so there is the chance he is not as terrible as I think he is. But based on the facts I do know, this guy should be in prison. Definitely not in any kind of high profile, lucrative and influential position. The fact he basically tried to hold on to his position on the ATP Board until players like Murray and Wawrinka made very public statements against him shows he doesn't feel any real remorse. If I were Djokovic, as president of the player's council, it is even more important not to support such an awful person.

Anyway, let's agree to disagree. I think Nole is a great player, so we do have some common ground ;)
 

Bartelby

Talk Tennis Guru
Gimmelstob is biding his time for a comeback, so now is not the time to move on from the issue.

And the next step would be a resignation from Djokovic whose political game is too opaque and lacking in any evident benefit for players.
 
He pleaded guilty! He was convicted. He had the option of going on trial and having his day in court. He chose not to dispute the charges.
What do you think is enough though? Life as he knew it is essentially gone. He’s going to take a massive financial hit. Reputation destroyed and basically will be an outcast in the community.

Seems like enough. For me at least.
 
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