Gimelstob resigns

sureshs

sureshs

Bionic Poster
#51
#51
TopspintheTerrible said:
What do you think is enough though? Life as he knew it is essentially gone. He’s going to take a massive financial hit. Reputation destroyed and basically will be an outcast in the community.

Seems like enough. For me at least.
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He is suing the guy he hit. It seems it isn't over for him.
 
WhiskeyEE

WhiskeyEE

Legend
#54
#54
This is why you don't make stupid decisions while in rage mode. Always plot revenge for a later date if you still care about it by then.
 
EloQuent

EloQuent

G.O.A.T.
#57
#57
TopspintheTerrible said:
What do you think is enough though? Life as he knew it is essentially gone. He’s going to take a massive financial hit. Reputation destroyed and basically will be an outcast in the community.

Seems like enough. For me at least.
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I don't particularly care tbh. I just don't want him in any official capacity in tennis. He can coach any player who wants him.

I was responding to someone defending him as convicted by public opinion, which is straight up false.
 
sureshs

sureshs

Bionic Poster
#62
#62
One of the articles made a good case that it is not safe for anyone, especially women, to work around him. Workplaces like Slams and the Tennis Channel and the production company are legally obliged to take this into account and not hide by trying to separate his personal behavior from his professional one. Being hired or running a business which employs people is not a fundamental right and workplaces have the legal obligation to take such matters into consideration. The days when a man could beat up his wife and then claim that no woman in his office should be afraid because it is a personal matter are long gone. Sure, employers cannot act on hearsay, but there is now a documented series of events, starting from his comments about Kournikova and culminating in the recent incident.
 
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Tshooter

Legend
#70
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EloQuent said:
He pleaded guilty! He was convicted. He had the option of going on trial and having his day in court. He chose not to dispute the charges.
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Setting aside the JG case for a moment, in general your statement doesn't mean as much as you seem to think. Virtually all cases are resolved before trial. I don't want to look up the CA numbers again because these threads have a history of disappearing but I think the number in CA is around 98% of felony cases are disposed of before trial. And plenty of innocent people plead guilty. If you are sitting in jail because you can't make bail and/or you are offered x days if you plead guilty or risk 10X if you don't you may not want to wait it out and then roll the dice. And JG had the benefit that a very small fraction of people arrested have: the resources to put on a full throttle defense.
 
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citybert

Hall of Fame
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mbm0912 said:
What did he do exactly? Punch a guy and now your life is over?
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Punched wrestled him to the ground and continued to beat him in front of his young child and wife who was preggars while wearing a Goose outfit from Top Gun.

His life is not over. He wont ever serve a second behind bars. He just wont be ATP chair so just a derailed career at the moment. Yes Gimelstob is the worst and he sucks but he will and does deserve a second chance.
 
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EloQuent

EloQuent

G.O.A.T.
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Tshooter said:
Setting aside the JG case for a moment, in general your statement doesn't mean as much as you seem to think. Virtually all cases are resolved before trial. I don't want to look up the CA numbers again because these threads have a history of disappearing but I think the number in CA is around 98% of felony cases are disposed of before trial. And plenty of innocent people plead guilty. If you are sitting in jail because you can't make bail and/or you are offered x days if you plead guilty or risk 10X if you don't you may not want to wait it out and then roll the dice. And JG had the benefit that a very small fraction of people arrested have: the resources to put on a full throttle defense.
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The reason why very few cases go to trial is because you know you're going to lose. And it's true that sometimes innocent people confess but like you said those are usually people without resources and JG did have. If you're going to prance around saying there's more to the story, you shouldn't plead guilty.
 
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Tshooter

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navigator

navigator

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sureshs said:
He is suing the guy he hit. It seems it isn't over for him.
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Gimelstob has filed for a restraining order against Kaplan, likely for PR/appearance reasons ("Yeah, I hit him in the face 50 times, but he called me a jerk first - keep him away from me!"). Kaplan is going to file a civil suit against Gimelstob. And he's going to win if it makes it to court. Kaplan is very wealthy and very clever. Gimelstob is a violent sociopath with no moorings and apparently zero self-awareness... and rapidly declining income. If the civil case moves forward he's going to get utterly buried. I suspect there will be a settlement that leaves him roughly penniless, which is what Kaplan is really after at this point - public humiliation.
 
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Tshooter

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citybert said:
Yup same thing when he used the backs of the lower ranked players to gain power saying he cared about their pay.
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FEDR and Nadal no longer want to be bothered with the formal tennis politics and the ATP Board. Djokovic certainly doesn’t need to waste his time with it and doesn’t need “to gain power.” He’s doing very very well as is. But he’s gotten involved and I assume actually does care about the pay of lower ranked players.
 
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navigator

navigator

Hall of Fame
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How about that. ATP and Tennis Channel gigs gone in the same day. I wrote yesterday that the guy was toast but usually it takes me more than 24 hours to be right about these kinds of things. Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn sometimes.
 
EloQuent

EloQuent

G.O.A.T.
#86
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Tshooter said:
Source ?

Now if Carrillo would do the right thing and resign too. I’m sure she’s a lovely woman off mic but that cackling...
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Saw it on Twitter. Check Rothenberg's account I'm sure he has something (not endorsing the dude but he probably links/RTs reliable sources)
 
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Jon Wertheim , in his weekly Mailbag column, still refused to back down from his "wait and see" attitude about Gimelstob. He included a long, rambling tweet full of legalese. Vito Gimelstob did not rape anyone, but what would you be saying if it was your father or brother that was attacked trying to trick or treat? If JG was innocent, he could have fought it in court.
 
sureshs

sureshs

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Otacon said:
He was judged and he resigned. End of story. Everyone should move on.
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The news was that he is suing the victim. Hardly seems like the end of story.

There is no announcement from Tennis Channel either which says he will not be employed again, nor any announcement from the ATP or USTA about use of his production company.

Matter is very far from being over. He is just biding his time and will try to come back using his network of contacts.
 
Nadalgaenger

Nadalgaenger

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#100
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sureshs said:
Didn't expect anything better from Isner
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Isner is a good guy. He's just supporting his coach. As others have noted, he's not a child rapist or a murderer. He may have acted like a sociopath in this incident, but I'm sure that he has a good rapport with Isner (and probably several guys on tour), so you can't trash Isner for standing by his coach.
 
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