tennis24x7
Hall of Fame
Yeah whatever to the serve seen a dime a dozen latest being Opelka, gimme the one handed backhand please.
Giovanni the Giant: 6"8 guy with one handed backhand is making having a breakout year!
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This guy is going to make Opelka and even Hurkacz his bitches when it comes to the serve very soon. I mean, dude *routinely* hits 145-147 mph serves.
I see him as the second coming of Richard Krajicek (who was the biggest righty server in the 1990s).
tennis24x7
Hall of Fame
What matters is whether he can hit the spots with the serve? we will see. Most huge servers can't and then it is game over.
Yeah, you’re right.
Though, plenty of his serves painted the line in the Musetti match.
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TennisManiac
Hall of Fame
I'm so sick of these really tall servebots. They suck and always will. The best tennis players are between 5'10" and 6'2"
InsuranceMan
Hall of Fame
Opelka hasn’t been on tour for a minute
GRASScaraz
Professional
Qualified for Queens
Will be drawn to play against one of Tiafoe/Murray/Fritz/Shelton. Any of those would be a fun match.
GRASScaraz
Professional
Showdown vs Shelton confirmed!
TennisHound
Legend
Dang 6’8”, didn’t realize he was that tall.
Apun94
Hall of Fame
Agreed. Accurately serving your spots CONSISTENTLY, especially on 30-30, 30-40, 40-40, BPs is way more important than serve speed
aldeayeah
G.O.A.T.
Moose Malloy
G.O.A.T.
his stats vs Bergs in qualies at Queens (between this event, Stuttgart and Lyon he seems to be consistently serving around these numbers in every match)
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averaged 135 on 1st serve, 125 on 2nd serve
The Shelton match should be interesting. It's on Court 5, wonder if there's a lot of room behind the baseline on that court to return all these bombs.
Giovanni Mpetshi Perricard vs. Zizou Bergs London 2024 2nd Round Qualifying | Stats Centre | ATP Tour | Tennis
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The Shelton match should be interesting. It's on Court 5, wonder if there's a lot of room behind the baseline on that court to return all these bombs.
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The Green Mile
Bionic Poster
Whatever his accuracy is in terms of spot serving (I haven't seen enough of him to really judge), his speeds are just insane lol, like I've seen some players average 125 on 2nd serve, but never with this kind of consistency, on a match to match basis. It puts it into perspective when you realize just how many times players miss their first serve (which is often on average slower than his 2nd serve) and he manages to keep his DF count in the single digits.
And I don't buy the "most huge servers can't hit spots" quote at all. IMO, the majority of the most notorious big servers had good to excellent placement. A shame tennis doesn't really track this sort of thing consistently.
You can't bring up serve speed in a post, without somebody bringing up placement in a reply, it's like a TW rule at this point. We get it XD We just wanna mull over the insane numbers in awe nevertheless
And I don't buy the "most huge servers can't hit spots" quote at all. IMO, the majority of the most notorious big servers had good to excellent placement. A shame tennis doesn't really track this sort of thing consistently.
You can't bring up serve speed in a post, without somebody bringing up placement in a reply, it's like a TW rule at this point. We get it XD We just wanna mull over the insane numbers in awe nevertheless
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metsman
Talk Tennis Guru
Yet 5'10" Alcaraz is going to win 15 slams against the evolved 6'6" giants?
landcookie
Semi-Pro
Love it
Razer
G.O.A.T.
I dont think Alcaraz will win 15 but he might win 10-11 and that is still a lot.... That still doesn't prove Laver can win today, he is even 3-4 inches shorter than Alcaraz.... I guess the 6'6 giants would win over Laver now...
Wander
Hall of Fame
This Tennisabstract article https://www.tennisabstract.com/blog/2024/02/27/alex-de-minaurs-adequate-inaccuracy/ also suggests that statistically pure speed of serve is more important than anything else. Placement is also important, but there is a balance that needs to be struck between speed, accuracy and first serve percentage, as we all know. The statistics also suggest that tall players find it easier to be accurate while serving bombs, as you had gathered yourself just by observing.
The least accurate top players are the ones shorter than average, like De Minaur and even Alcaraz. They have seemingly concluded that hitting as hard as they can with a bit less precision is currently their best bet to keep up with the taller guys.
GRASScaraz
Professional
He has arrived on grass! Gets Shelton's scalp!
90% points won on first serve and won 16/19 (84%) net points, with no break points faced in a 6-3, 7-6 win. That's how you get it done on grass.
Should have a great shot to beat wildcard Billy Harris in the next round.
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The Green Mile
Bionic Poster
The guy averaged 128 mph on 2nd serve against Ben , only 6 mph below his 1st serve average. That is probably the highest I've ever seen a 2nd serve average. Seems to be hitting at least a 147 mph serve every damn match as well lol
Only 5 DFs as well.
Never seen anything like this tbh
Only 5 DFs as well.
Never seen anything like this tbh
Shaolin
G.O.A.T.
Thats unreal. This guy is gonna be a problem.
The Green Mile
Bionic Poster
I think he'll definitely play spoiler often throughout his career.
After most of the serving monsters retiring, good to see the rise of another lol
The Green Mile
Bionic Poster
It'd be nice if we could move this thread to Pro Match Results, maybe. Does he have a thread over there?
bluetrain4
G.O.A.T.
The win over Shelton is particularly amusing because Shelton often goes into his matches with a certain serve gravitas. It doesn't always pan out, obviously, but the potential is there for Shelton on a given day to really bother someone with his serve. And today he meets a player who essentially says, "oh, that's cute."
ghostofMecir
Legend
Basically, when we all theorized about how eventually you’ll get apologize with a big move well and the problems that it’s going to cause… this could be that guy
bluetrain4
G.O.A.T.
He seems like he maybe have an Isner-like career. Some tennis viewers sort of crap on Isner for being "just a serve" but he really did have a great career and achieved a lot, even if it was because of one dominant shot. GBM seems to have better movement than Isner. Again, we have a small data set for GMP so it's probably too early to tell, but there's real potential starting to emerge.
His friend and compatriot Fils "arrived" first, but GMP might have the bigger upside. Fils is good, but what does he do THAT much better than a majority of other players? But, for the last time, it's very early in their careers so it's all speculation.
His friend and compatriot Fils "arrived" first, but GMP might have the bigger upside. Fils is good, but what does he do THAT much better than a majority of other players? But, for the last time, it's very early in their careers so it's all speculation.
middleballs
Professional
This is where it gets interesting. As you point out, the sample size is fairly small at this stage, but from little I’ve seen, his movement is surprisingly good. He also seems to have a pretty nice touch and volley, won a vast majority of his net points in the last match.
Baseline_Bungle
Legend
His name literally translates to Joe Pesci.
I would say he has the potential to be better at the net as well. He has better touch, but he still makes too many errors. If her can clean those up, he's going to be tough to break.
I fully expect that outcome because Perricard clearly outmatches Shelton when it comes to the serve, while Shelton is not exactly a good returner. In the end, Shelton had 0 break chances.
bluetrain4
G.O.A.T.
Not even one? I didn't know that. Not that it never happens, but still sort of nuts. Must be a great feeling on GPM's end.
Knife
Professional
... and Mpetshi?
He is one of the more entertaining servebots giants I must say, really dig that ping-pong like backhand he has, wrist of steel. Also some unexpected good touch when needed, great to watch...
GRASScaraz
Professional
Don't know how he didn't make Wimbledon main draw. DISGRACEFUL
middleballs
Professional
What? When was the cutoff date? He’s been well inside the top 100 since before RG!
I tried to google it but there is no info.
InsuranceMan
Hall of Fame
WC for qualy?
Yeah, he will have to play qualifying unless he gets the last WC. IMO he will have to make Queens final to get that slot.
I don’t know why Wimbledon decided to have cut-off date just before ATP Lyon this year. Last year, the cut-off date was after ATP Lyon.
InsuranceMan
Hall of Fame
Thanks for the info. That’s a shame, hope he makes some noise at Queen’s.
He has way more potential than Shelton, other than being right handed. I didn't watch the whole match, but in the highlights, he was hitting multiple passing shots from his backhand. He can volley, he can move forward, hit passing winners moving corner to corner. He's going to be better than most of all the upcoming kids. Scary potential.
middleballs
Professional
Thanks for the info! That’s just plain weird. Firstly, that cut-off date seems very harsh and, secondly, changing it like that from one year to another just doesn’t make sense.
middleballs
Professional
Thanks for the update, looking forward!
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