Moose Malloy
G.O.A.T.
Up to 44 in the live rankings, maybe he'll have a good enough summer to be seeded at USO.
Giovanni the Giant: 6"8 guy with one handed backhand is making having a breakout year!
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zagor
Bionic Poster
I only bet 100 euros, good call on your side. Only 10 aces for GMP and gave 15 BPs, 67% won on 1st serve.
Musetti really manhandled his serve, dude was serving 30+ aces per match leading to it.
Making 4R in first debut is not bad at all.
Hey, and this run is quite similar to Raonic’s first known Slam run in AO 2011.
Plus, tactically GMP should have actually gone after Musetti FH wing.
Hey, and this run is quite similar to Raonic’s first known Slam run in AO 2011.
Feel like GMP would prefer facing say, Rublev or even Fritz (who actually looked pedestrian against Zverev serve until the 5th) over Musetti.
Plus, tactically GMP should have actually gone after Musetti FH wing.
Hope you got in on this
ghostofMecir
Legend
Only two units—should have listened to myself for something bigger. I also had a unit on a ADM/Musetti/Djoko parlay.Hope you got in on this
Givonni was crushing the ball, especially his serve, against Rune in the Basel SF, setting up what feels like a '90s throwback match with Shelton in the final. He's a career high #37 in the live rankings and could be seeded for the Australian Open.
Galvermegs
Professional
Was wondering if he could keep up the momentum. Good to see. But feel bad for rune.. still he made a mint over in the desert!
The Green Mile
Bionic Poster
Time for round two. Big Man tennis in the final of Basel.
GRASScaraz
Hall of Fame
From winning his first ATP match to winning Basel!
Big win for Giovanni today, basically blowing Ben Shelton off the court with huge first and second serves. He picks up his second title of the year in Basel and moves to #31 in the live rankings. Definitely a good chance he's seed at the AO next year.
The Green Mile
Bionic Poster
These sort of conditions are perfect for him, quick conditions, no outdoor factors and best of three format, I think his mindset on serve differs slightly from what I've seen elsewhere, he really holds nothing back on 1st and 2nd serve and backs himself to hold no matter what, gets anywhere from 5-10 mph extra on both deliveries.
Not broken all week in Basel.
Not broken all week in Basel.
Galvermegs
Professional
Too bad shelton is not backing up his 2023 quite as much as he could have. He hasnt lost his way like rune but seems less confident in the big matches.
Dominic & Andrey
Legend
The fact that barely anyone cares on this forum about GMP's insane run and serving stats in Basel is really sad. F*cking Big 3 sycophants.
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
Most of these posters only care about majors. Part of the big 3 legend is how good they were at the M1000s.
chjtennis
G.O.A.T.
Perricard (sounds a bit like Pierre Cardin) is a giant with some major upgrades. He is so athletic that he seems more like 6'4" than 6'8", moves around so well and looks very stable. However, the most impressive thing is his serve. I think it's even an upgrade on Isner's. He can easily clock it to 140 mph, but does it with great accuracy that some of his 2nd serves are well over 130mph. This guy could be impossible to beat on his day. Will be a legit challenger to Sincaraz soon, I think.
Shaolin
G.O.A.T.
I dont think so tbh.
Although he is serving like Karlovic it doesnt equalize the way too bad returning stats. He needs to dramatically improve his returning stats to be a contender at Masters/Majors. A fast look on the ATP leaderboard for 2024 reveals 1st SPR win at 23% and 2nd SPR win at 38%. He wins about 10% of his return games which is classic servebot level (Karlovic was 9% Raonic 16% Isner 10%). No serving can make up for that bad return stats, its just the way it is. And yes, I checked Basel stats, which arent any better.
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
Have noticed this board doesn't take that well to players of color
GMP didn't celebrate at all during that match so there was nothing to criticize (unlike, say, Shelton or Tiafoe)
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
tlm
G.O.A.T.
I watched him yesterday and very impressed, will be interesting to watch how well he does in the future.
beltsman
G.O.A.T.
We don't want freaks in tennis
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Is he shaping up to be the new Giant Servebot of the tennis tour in the hallowed traditions of Ivanisevic, Karlovic, Isner and Anderson (Opelka seems to have got bored with the role)?
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
Is he shaping up to be the new Giant Servebot of the tennis tour in the hallowed traditions of Ivanisevic, Karlovic, Isner and Anderson (Opelka seems to have got bored with the role)?
He's far more athletic and mobile than them and is 'only' 6'8"
I think he's got potential to be a bit more than a servebot
Galvermegs
Professional
Dont think the last 3 mentioned there are any bit as quick as goran when he was fit. He did better on clay than any of the others.
Tallawah Tennis
Semi-Pro
Yah man, kid has the power, moves well and can hit an eye catching shbh. Like his demeanour too. All else being equal, it is reasonable to expect that he, like other youngsters, will improve. Hope so. It would be most interesting to have a good mix of excellent players competing for the top prizes.
Shaolin
G.O.A.T.
Is he shaping up to be the new Giant Servebot of the tennis tour in the hallowed traditions of Ivanisevic, Karlovic, Isner and Anderson (Opelka seems to have got bored with the role)?
He's not just a bot. He has good groundstrokes, great touch at the net and nice movement as well.
AmericanTwist
Professional
For being 6'8" his serves should be better. Should be a top 20 guy next year.
Shaolin
G.O.A.T.
Hilarious.
He has all the stats of a classic bot:
- Return games won around 10%
- Skyhigh Aces pr match
- Skyhigh DF's pr match
- 2nd serve win drops like a rock (relatively to other players) to 1st serve win.
Well the "eye test" doesnt change the fact that he only wins 10% of his return games, which are on par with Karlovic.
Galvermegs
Professional
Karlovic was fun to watch as he had to come in due to being slow and having a weak rally backhand.
Gary Duane
Talk Tennis Guru
That's actually a very good point so we should keep an eye on that stat over the next couple of years.
Yeah there is ofc no clear definition of a "Servebot", but there have been som good threads over the years. I think some good stats to define it is:
- Return games won around 10-15%
- Sky high Aces pr match
- Sky high DF's pr match
- 2nd serve win ranking considerably lower than 1st serve win ranking.
So far Perricard qualifies perfectly imo, but ofc that can change.
Gary Duane
Talk Tennis Guru
I agree with you except about the double faults. Isner didn't give away many points.
Shaolin
G.O.A.T.
I think that return stat will improve. He's still pretty green yet.
aldeayeah
G.O.A.T.
isner's kick serve was perfect in every way
Yeah dont know if Isner was a classic Servebot. Isner also had very good 2nd serve stats.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Oh my god
Now even Johny isner isn't servebot.
He would feel insulted.
I say even kyrgios is servebot. Ace rate above break rate is servebot to me.
Isner is far above the criteria. Top 2 servebot of all time.
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