Girl can hit ATP forehand

heninfan99

Talk Tennis Guru
The difference comes further on. She’ll be completing her rotation while swinging arm forward simultaneously. Djokovic will complete torso rotation with arm fully back, no chest flexion, just stretch, then pass the momentum to arm. The marker is exactly what I showed in those still frames: torso already facing the net while arm still trailing.
I assumed you'd rely on the strict example of Djokovic or another #1 player but as the photo shows she leads with her hips and shoulders with tremendous racquet lag behind, it is indeed multi-segmental just not like as extreme as Novak.
 

Dragy

Hall of Fame
I assumed you'd rely on the strict example of Djokovic or another #1 player but as the photo shows she leads with her hips and shoulders with tremendous racquet lag behind, it is indeed multi-segmental just not like as extreme as Novak.
It doesn’t matter who’s photo is used if the techniques is applied properly for specific type of stroke. The issue is when a player relies on chest muscles to actively hold/swing arm as major acceleration from torso rotation happens, such player is limited by chest muscle power and needs longer run to produce same power. That’s what we see in most WTA strokes.
If a player uses the posture shown on Djok and Barty stills, he/she can deliver major acceleration in a much shorter timeframe. The benefits are:
- ability to produce full-power shots with less time to execute, from shorter backswing;
- ability to finalize the swingpath, commit to contact point later, allowing for better/fuller shots against heavy incoming balls hit on the rise.
 

Dragy

Hall of Fame
Racquet lag by itself doesn’t make a forehand ATP-style. As short backswing doesn’t. It’s a full package of checkpoints to be there.
 

dimkin

Hall of Fame
This girl is hitting perfect ATP forehands, even at 4.5-5.0 level. It’s hard to understand why pro women still mostly insist on WTA style. And that way they’re giving the misogynistic men ongoing grounds to argue that it’s an inherent weakness of women .

That's one ugly fh ...

But her backhand is picture-perfect
 

Curious

Legend
Happy New Year!

Here's an update video:


The hitch with the wrist has been mostly removed, which was probably the biggest priority in opinion - there are obviously a bunch of things that we'd like to improve on, which will help the overall dynamic, i've listed below which come to mind

WIP
- Fixing counter balance and over rotation
- More elbow separation from body
- Which will coincide and help with maintaining looseness and fluidity
- Better Coil and weight transfer
- Consistent and fast racquet head speed

More work to do, but things have progressed quite fast within 1.5 weeks

Feedback welcome

Thanks
Very nice forehand with excellent net clearance.

Can you arrange a match for me against her? :D
I'm also in Melbourne.
 

Keendog

Professional
Just watched this girl.
A bit wonky but still ATPish forehand:D


Why are you pursuing this bull dust line of discussion when it has already been shown numerous wta players hit with an abbreviated backswing already? What's your point?




 

pushing_wins

Hall of Fame
This girl is hitting perfect ATP forehands, even at 4.5-5.0 level. It’s hard to understand why pro women still mostly insist on WTA style. And that way they’re giving the misogynistic men ongoing grounds to argue that it’s an inherent weakness of women .

her fh is so bad

arms city

so badddd
 

ChaelAZ

Legend
- Better Coil and weight transfer

Feedback welcome
Looks good and consistent. Thanks for chiming in and posting. I've been folling your channel for a bit now.

I think part of the better coil will be getting the off arm to reach across more( and parallel with the net) and pulling back though. I think with that she could be more explosive on the release. Again, that is more down the road, but worth exploring.
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
I really think she's too slow twitch to use the ATP style. A more elongated FH backswing would afford her more power buildup. That languid muscle firing will never get enough power transfer with the abbreviated backswing. Bottom line is she looks built for a WTA FH not an ATP. Think Sharapova.
 
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