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Given his playing style and how he defeated Federer in the 2009 Australian Open final, does it shock you that Nadal has not won a title there since?
He has severely underperformed in Australia, that is true.
The Australian Open is a jinxed event for Nadal.
I just watched the 2009 AO final again. Fed's worst mental performance in any slam final by far, even worse than 2009 USO. Choking, tentative, terrified... yet you have people here claiming Roger was playing "great." They never saw the match. As Fred Stolle said while commentating, "this is one of the more obvious mental collapses I think I've ever seen!"At least he has won it. Federer gifted it to him wrapped up in his unforced errors that match. I was more peeved Fed lost that match than Wimbledon 2008.
Balanced out by his severe over-performance at the US Open.
Physically, he was playing great. That was the best shot making match I've ever seen, they were both coming up with unreal angles for hours.I just watched the 2009 AO final again. Fed's worst mental performance in any slam final by far, even worse than 2009 USO. Choking, tentative, terrified... yet you have people here claiming Roger was playing "great." They never saw the match. As Fred Stolle said while commentating, "this is one of the more obvious mental collapses I think I've ever seen!"
Interesting how, in title matches, the French Open (11-0) and US Open (3-1) are his 2 best Slams in stark contrast to Australian Open (1-4) and Wimbledon (2-3).
I just watched the 2009 AO final again. Fed's worst mental performance in any slam final by far, even worse than 2009 USO. Choking, tentative, terrified... yet you have people here claiming Roger was playing "great." They never saw the match. As Fred Stolle said while commentating, "this is one of the more obvious mental collapses I think I've ever seen!"
Tennis is random like that. I think there's no doubt that his luck in Australia is pretty atrocious. I don't think it's a stretch to say with the same level of good luck as bad he might even have four of them, certainly should have two and probably three is the right amount.
Given his playing style and how he defeated Federer in the 2009 Australian Open final, does it shock you that Nadal has not won a title there since?
I just watched the 2009 AO final again. Fed's worst mental performance in any slam final by far, even worse than 2009 USO. Choking, tentative, terrified... yet you have people here claiming Roger was playing "great." They never saw the match. As Fred Stolle said while commentating, "this is one of the more obvious mental collapses I think I've ever seen!"
From the following standpoint, it's very surprising:
Rafa has won 17 of his 25 "slam" finals (68%) overall, yet he's won just 1 of 5 (20%) at the AO.
Even if you ignore his 11/11 at the FO, he's still won 5 of 9 at Wimbledon/US Open.
On an AO tourney-by-tourney (finals) basis, it's less surprising. He won 1 of 3 5-setters - maybe one would expect him to win 2/3, but Fed (2017) and Djokovic (2012) won more of the crucial points, as Rafa did in 2009. Stan had a great tourney in 2014, but the suspicion is that if his back didn't go out on him, Rafa may have won. Of course, this past Sunday, Novak was just too good.
Keep in mind that Bjorn Borg was 0-4 at the US Open, yet 11-12 in other slam finals - more surprising.
And Andy Murray is/was (?) 0-5 at Aussie finals - and 3 (of 6) outside of Oz.
I actually thought he was done and expected him to start fading away after that.That was because Nadal was in Fed's head by that stage and the memory of losing both his last 2 Slam finals to him left him nervous and unconfident. This meant that Federer was to lose 3 successive Slam finals to Nadal on all 3 surfaces!
What a different world it was back then!
He lost his serve from the first ball, but still that's clearly one of Fed's top 3 performances in a slam loss.Physically, he was playing great. That was the best shot making match I've ever seen, they were both coming up with unreal angles for hours.
He lost the plot mentally in the 5th set when he forgot how to serve. But I'll maintain it was still a special performance.
Not sure you can call the US Open a boogey slam for Djokovic given that he's now won it three times.It happens even to the great ones. Every player has 1 or 2 boogey slams.
I'm glad that Fed is the only one of the Big 3 with only 1 boogey slam.
Obviously, it's all relative. I think it's okay so long as it's still popular to call Rafa "cursed" in Australia, despite having won the event already.Not sure you can call the US Open a boogey slam for Djokovic given that he's now won it three times.
Yeah but there's a bit of a difference between winning three titles and just the one.Obviously, it's all relative. I think it's okay so long as it's still popular to call Rafa "cursed" in Australia, despite having won the event already.
It's only fair considering how the USO has shaped up for him over the yearsThe Australian Open is a jinxed event for Nadal.
I just watched the 2009 AO final again. Fed's worst mental performance in any slam final by far, even worse than 2009 USO. Choking, tentative, terrified... yet you have people here claiming Roger was playing "great." They never saw the match. As Fred Stolle said while commentating, "this is one of the more obvious mental collapses I think I've ever seen!"
Given his playing style and how he defeated Federer in the 2009 Australian Open final, does it shock you that Nadal has not won a title there since?
Nadal was up a break in the 5th in two finals and lost. All on him regardless of choking.
I'm not saying they're the same. I'm saying they're both the same level of ridiculous.Yeah but there's a bit of a difference between winning three titles and just the one.
If you told me back in 2009 that Rafa would go on and play ten more seasons, I would have been shocked to hear that!If you told me back in 2009 that Rafa would go on and play in four more AO finals over then next ten seasons and wouldn't win a single one, then yes I would have been shocked to hear that.
If you told me back in 2009 that Rafa would go on and play ten more seasons, I would have been shocked to hear that!