Glucosamine Supplement?

I had a friend in the medical field recommend taking a Glucosamine supplement daily for my ever sore arm. He told me that while it may not work for everyone, there was really no negative to taking an all natural substance like this.. Anyone found this to be helpful that plays a lot of tennis?
Yes, it works for me. But it may not work for you. I also recommend collagen and turmeric (w/ black pepper).
 

SystemicAnomaly

Talk Tennis Guru
^ Also, turmeric work better when cooked -- more bioavailable. Best when consumed with black pepper and lecithin (or other fat/oil).

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152jake

New User
Elbow Revive

I read about Elbow Revive on this website but cannot find it anywhere. Does anyone know where I can buy it. I have been all over the internet with no success.
 

SystemicAnomaly

Talk Tennis Guru
^ I'm kinda suspicious about this product. The lack of info is puzzling. Tried a search on this web site and found that it was mentioned 2x by the same poster. That poster only has 10 posts and has not posted in the past month. Unless you can find something concrete, forget about this product.
 

ttwarrior1

Professional
people keep saying recommended, blah blah blah

dead doctors don't lie

and who is this who and they people keep referring too.
 

152jake

New User
I read that Elbow Revive supplement is good for tennis elbow but can't find it anywhere on the internet. Does anyone know where it can be purchased?
 

Fee

Legend
If you are going to take supplements in the US, then spend the money on a subscription to ConsumerLab.com and at least get the best and purest pills you can buy.

In the US, the laws for 'food supplements' are so lax that your 1500 mg pill doesn't actually have to be 1500 mg. This is part of the problem with Glucosamine and why so many of the products are a rip off (like that idiot Supple juice that my father decided to buy, but he's 84 and buys into all kinds of crap). Find a good, pure source, and give it a try if it's suitable for your particular ailment (joint pain).
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
Big Pharma would love the government to enforce it, but people have stood against them, so far at least. Regulating supplements like regular pharmaceuticals would drive them out of business, as they are trying in Europe. Getting 1400 mg of something which is supposed to be 1500 is better than not being able to have legal access to any supplement.
 

Fee

Legend
It was "Big Pharma" that stopped the regulations, because every big pharma company has money invested in those small looking natural food supplements companies. They aren't stupid, they saw that trend developing over 20 years ago and they all jumped on to it. Cash cow.

I would like a law that says what's on the label must absolutely be in the pill. If I'm paying for echinacea, I don't want dried broccoli and basil instead.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
It was "Big Pharma" that stopped the regulations, because every big pharma company has money invested in those small looking natural food supplements companies. They aren't stupid, they saw that trend developing over 20 years ago and they all jumped on to it. Cash cow.

I would like a law that says what's on the label must absolutely be in the pill. If I'm paying for echinacea, I don't want dried broccoli and basil instead.
Will it stop there? Then another rule will be added that any claim, explicit or implicit, must be proved. I take couple of Ayurvedic pills called Glucofit and Cholesterofit. They will be banned because the names seem to suggest they have some benefits. I don't think they can spend a billion dollars financing a study to prove it. Some of these companies may be small scale outfits and if they are subject to random raids, they will go out of business. You got to take them on faith.
 

Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
Medical Science is very objective and will endorse any medicine as long as the scientific data supports it.

The reason these Ayurvedic products are not accepted by Western Medical Doctors is because they have not been scientifically proven to work.
 

SystemicAnomaly

Talk Tennis Guru
^ More like the reason that Ayurvedic medicine is "not accepted by Western Medical Doctors" because it does not fit into the big business model for the Western (US) medical community. No large pharmaceutical companies are going to spend the huge amount of money to approve Ayurvedic herbs/spices since they cannot patent them and cannot make obscene amounts of money marketing them. Also, Western doctors are not offered incentives to prescribe Ayurvedic substances as they are with large pharma drugs.

For the most part, Ayurvedic medicine has withstood the test of time -- it been around for more than 30 centuries. Some studies have examined Ayurvedic medicine, including herbal products, for specific conditions. However, as mentioned, there are not enough well-controlled clinical trials and systematic research reviews.

While many Ayurvedic spice/herbs are safe, some may need to be administered under the guidance of a qualified expert. Also, some Ayurvedic meds may interact with Western drugs. To my mind this is more of a problem with the Western drugs themselves -- since many of these drugs also interfere with substances that are normally considered healthy foods or nutrients (and even essential nutrients in some cases).

Unfortunately, some of the Ayurvedic products available on the internet may contain heavy metals.
 

newpball

Legend
Medical Science is very objective and will endorse any medicine as long as the scientific data supports it.

The reason these Ayurvedic products are not accepted by Western Medical Doctors is because they have not been scientifically proven to work.
I am delighted to sometimes see common sense prevail.

:grin:
 

T1000

Legend
Medical Science is very objective and will endorse any medicine as long as the scientific data supports it.

The reason these Ayurvedic products are not accepted by Western Medical Doctors is because they have not been scientifically proven to work.
lol no it's not. you're completely unaware how the pharmaceutical industry works
 

WildVolley

Legend
Medical Science is very objective and will endorse any medicine as long as the scientific data supports it.
Actually, many treatments that look promising in small scale studies never have better quality trials (more expensive) run on them because the treatments are inexpensive and don't contain patentable compounds.

The pharmaceuticals rationally only want to invest in patentable compounds because they want to cover the cost of testing and making a profit. That doesn't mean that some natural compounds aren't superior to novel patentable compounds, but that better quality studies are rarely financed.

Another aspect of medicine that I don't see discussed enough is that the effective of a compound may vary based on individual genetics. The FDA is now admitting that some drugs behave very differently based on the sex of the patient. Other genetic factors may be very important. Testing has to get more precise to discover these differences.
 
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